Dr. Marie Murphy talks about infidelity and other challenging relationship situations from a non-judgmental perspective. She shares practical tools and advice from her own coaching practice to help you make changes in your love life, and interviews professionals with complementary expertise, such as family law attorneys, mediators, non-violent communication specialists, and more. In addition, Marie discusses the social and historical context of romantic relationships to provide perspective o ...
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Welcome to Splitsville | Navigating Divorce in a Modern World
Leigh Sellers - Touchstone Family Law
Veteran Divorce, Child Custody, & Family Law Attorney, Leigh Sellers, serves as your guide through the foreign world of Splitsville – an alien place with its own rules, its own expectations, and even its own language. You won't find it on Google Maps, and your GPS won't work here. So if you’re feeling lost, you’re in the right place. With decades of experience serving clients in North Carolina (Charlotte, Monroe, Waxhaw, Concord, Gastonia, Weddington, NC) and South Carolina (Fort Mill, Rock ...
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Have you ever felt proud of yourself for telling the truth… only to later wonder if you should have approached it differently? We often think of truth-telling as an absolute good - something that's always right and beneficial. But what if I told you that, sometimes, the truth we choose to tell isn't necessarily the most important or useful truth in…
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How Can a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst Help in Your Divorce? with Kristen Shearin
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17:02"There's always a lot of fear around a divorce situation. Everyone's always worried that the outcome's going to be something that is going to negatively impact them," says Kristen Shearin, a certified divorce financial analyst (CDFA). In this conversation with host Sheila Passenant, Kristen describes how CDFAs can reduce that very fear throughout t…
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216: When Your Affair Partner Breaks Your Heart
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33:51Have you ever had someone walk out of your life without warning, only to reappear months later as if nothing happened? It's complicated enough when it happens in regular relationships. But when it involves an affair partner, the complexity multiplies tenfold. This kind of heartbreak hits differently when the relationship itself existed in secrecy, …
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215: Secretly Dating While You’re Married
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29:47Have you ever thought about "checking out your options" before making a big relationship decision? It seems logical, right? Why make a life-changing choice without knowing what else is out there? When you're married but questioning whether you want to stay that way, the unknown can feel paralyzing. Join me this week as I dive into why people choose…
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214: What If You Make the “Wrong Decision” About Your Relationship(s)?
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31:58Have you ever been paralyzed by the fear of making the "wrong" decision about your relationship(s)? Maybe you're considering leaving your marriage, ending an affair, or making another significant change in your relationship status. And maybe the fear of regret is keeping you stuck. Making major relationship decisions can feel like standing at the e…
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Is it really okay to end something that's working well? After much consideration, I've decided to pause production of Your Secret is Safe With Me indefinitely while I pursue new creative endeavors. This decision wasn't made because anything is wrong—quite the opposite. My experience with this transition mirrors what many of my clients face in their…
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Have you ever felt stuck between two good choices? Through my personal story of leaving a life I loved to join the Peace Corps, I illustrate how choosing between two good things - while challenging - can lead to profound growth and fulfillment. If you're struggling with a decision that feels impossible because both options have value, this episode …
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211. Dealing With Your Personal Problems When the World Is on Fire
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33:19Feeling overwhelmed by the state of the world? Wondering how to focus on your own personal struggles—like dealing with infidelity—when global crises seem so much bigger? In this episode, I explore how to stay engaged with the world's problems without being consumed by them. You'll learn why tending to your own challenges is not selfish but essentia…
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Does your partner's sexual past make you uncomfortable? What if you found out they had exchanged sex for money before you met - would that feel like cheating? These are the kinds of thorny questions I tackle head-on in this week’s episode. I’ll help you examine your beliefs about sex work, infidelity, and how much of our pasts we need to share with…
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209. Astrology and Infidelity with Karen Hawkwood (Part 2)
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1:13:49Have you ever felt like you have competing desires when it comes to relationships? Like part of you craves freedom and adventure while another part yearns for deep intimacy and stability? Astrologer Karen Hawkwood joins me this week to discuss how astrology can provide a framework for understanding these complex and often paradoxical needs. We also…
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Is paying for sex cheating? In this week’s episode, I dive into the complex intersection of sex work and infidelity. I explore how to be a conscious consumer of sexual services, the social stigma around sex work, and the diversity of experiences within the industry. I also address listener questions about the risks and benefits of seeing sex worker…
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207. Astrology and Infidelity with Karen Hawkwood
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1:12:04Have you ever wondered if your astrological chart holds clues to your relationship patterns and tendencies? In this episode, I sit down with teacher and practitioner of archetypal astrology, Karen Hawkwood, to explore how astrology can provide valuable insights into the parts of ourselves that shape our experiences with infidelity. Whether you're w…
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206. Where Do You Want to Be a Year from Now?
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14:54What would your life look like a year from now if you resolved your infidelity situation in a way that felt really amazing to you? Do you struggle to imagine what resolving your infidelity situation could look like? Listen in this week as I dive into the power of envisioning your ideal future and guide you through a series of prompts that will help…
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205. What Can You Give Yourself More Credit For?
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17:19What if I told you that the key to making positive changes in your life is self-love and acceptance, not self-loathing? It may sound counterintuitive, but giving yourself credit for what you HAVE done can be incredibly motivating, especially if you've been beating yourself up over infidelity. In this episode, I guide you through an exercise to refl…
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204. The Challenges of Infidelity During the Holidays
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36:01Do the holidays have you feeling stuck between a rock and a hard place in your infidelity situation? You're not alone. Trying to balance family obligations with an affair partner's desires can seem impossible. But even when you don't like your options, you still have choices. In this episode, I explore real-world scenarios and discuss how to identi…
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What's more important to you - your money or your freedom? If you're stuck in a marriage you don't want to be in but are reluctant to leave because you don't want to lose half your wealth, you're not alone. Many of my clients grapple with this dilemma. In this episode, I dig into what money really means to you and how to weigh that against the free…
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202. Breaking Up with Your Affair Partner
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45:10Are you struggling with the idea of breaking up with your affair partner? How do you tell them it's over in a way that doesn't sound like an ultimatum? Is it possible to stay friends afterwards? And what if you work together - how do you navigate that? This is a uniquely challenging situation that brings up a lot of difficult questions, but I’ve go…
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High-conflict breakups are always going to be tricky. And when infidelity is involved, feelings can get amplified, leading to some pretty interesting behavior. Some people have a particularly hard time when a relationship comes to an end, feeling sad, hurt, rejected, unloved, abandoned... even worthless. So, how do you go about extricating yourself…
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Does your marriage or your committed relationship CURRENTLY feel like home to you? Or are you running off of memories of what your relationship once felt like to you? If you are dissatisfied with your committed relationship to the point where you’re seriously considering leaving, but you think you can’t leave because your sense of home is predicate…
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No matter what you've done or are doing in regards to your infidelity situation, you are worthy of acceptance, love, and respect. As you'll hear in this episode, I explore the idea that there ARE people out there who will understand and accept you, even if they know all the details of your infidelity. While it may seem like everyone would judge and…
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198. What Do You Owe Your Ex-Affair Partner’s Spouse?
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30:39What do you do if your ex-affair partner's spouse wants to talk to you about the affair? Do you owe them an apology or explanation? Is there actually anything you can say to make this person feel any better? In this episode, I explore the tricky question of what, if anything, you might want to offer the partner of someone you had an affair with. I …
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Have you ever reconnected with a former flame and found yourself in an affair, wondering if this is your second chance at true love? When people are engaging in affairs with someone they've been involved with in the past, they tend to see these relationships as an incredibly high-stakes situation. Tune in this week to look at some of the major chal…
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Are you tolerating aspects of your life and relationship situations that you shouldn't? This week, I dive into what happens when we tolerate things we don’t like, and why we so often think we have to put up with them when we don’t. Find out why so many people don’t want to acknowledge that they are tolerating things they dislike in their affair rel…
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195. Affair Relationships Can Last a Lifetime
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56:32Something I hear regularly is the belief that relationships that begin as affairs cannot transition into non-affair relationships. A lot of folks I work with are CONVINCED that if they start an affair relationship, it will never be able to get onto “normal” footing, and it is simply doomed to fail. But does this have to be true? Is this what you wa…
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Are you facing doubt in your infidelity situation? Do you want to make a decision but feel uncertain about what the right decision is? Maybe you are unsure whether to end things with your marriage and pursue a relationship with your affair partner. Maybe you don’t know whether your marriage is worth fighting for. Maybe you worry about the impact th…
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193. What Do You Owe a Relationship Before You Can Decide to Leave It?
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44:34If you are married or in a long-term relationship and also involved with someone else, there may be one big question on your mind when you think about ending your committed relationship: what exactly do you owe yourself, your partner, or your relationship before you can decide to leave it? This week, discover why you feel so much pressure to try ev…
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192. When Will I Stop Fantasizing About My Ex-Affair Partner?
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39:58Do you ever find yourself fantasizing about your ex-affair partner? Do you torture yourself reminiscing on the wonderful times you shared, and the amazing memories you hold with them, even though the infidelity situation has since come to an end? Discover the reasons you might still be fantasizing about your ex-affair partner, and how to start to e…
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191. Are You Just Having a Midlife Crisis?
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44:01There is a common belief that marriage should last a lifetime. So when somebody decides that they are dissatisfied with life as they know it, and engage in an infidelity situation as a result, it is commonly labeled as a midlife crisis. But what if waking up one morning and deciding you are dissatisfied with your life is a wonderful opportunity to …
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The Magic Button that I’m diving deeper into this week is the one you wish you could push to answer all your questions about your infidelity situation. The one that, when you push it, your infidelity situation magically resolves in a way that you are delighted with, without you having to do much of anything. That magic button would solve all your p…
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People often freak out when infidelity occurs, even if it has pretty much zero impact on their lives. It gets treated as a big scandal that the "perpetrator" needs to redeem themselves from. Whether or not you buy into the idea that scandal, disgrace, and redemption are real things, other people turning your experiences into a public spectacle is a…
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188. When Your Affair Partner Leaves You for the Wrong Reasons
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41:52Have you ever found yourself in an affair situation with someone who is monogamously committed to someone else? For a while, your partner is pretty sure they want to leave that relationship and pursue a non-affair relationship with you. They share their intentions to leave their partner for weeks, months, or even years, and they may even take actio…
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How often do you make a decision that you think you’re happy with, then doubt yourself and fear it was the wrong one because you feel so many mixed emotions about it? When you make a major decision in your life, about your infidelity situation or otherwise, you are most likely going to have mixed thoughts and feelings about it, but that DOESN’T mea…
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Join me for part two of "Why I Do the Work I Do" as I share the turning point that led me to become a relationship coach specializing in non-judgmental assistance to people engaging in infidelity, and exactly what it took for me to get here. I’m picking up where I left off last week and sharing the power of taking small steps forward, even when you…
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185. Why I Do the Work I Do (Part 1)
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1:02:14As you may be aware, “non-judgmental infidelity coach” is not a common job description that exists out there in the world, at least not to my knowledge. This thing I do and the angle I take is pretty unique, and I am dedicated to offering non-judgmental guidance to people actively engaging in any form of infidelity. But how did I get here? What exa…
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184. The Point of Resolving Your Infidelity Situation (Part 2)
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25:22At some point, the drawbacks of your infidelity situation can start to outweigh the benefits, and if this happens for you, you may want to start thinking about taking a conscious, deliberate approach to resolving your infidelity situation in a way you feel good about. Yes it might feel hard at first – so hard that you may decide that you’d rather s…
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183. When Your Affair is Over, You May be Bored
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40:50If you experience boredom after you’ve stopped engaging in infidelity, you may not know what to do with yourself, and you are NOT alone. Post-infidelity boredom is a thing, but fortunately for you, I have some recommendations to help you deal with it. In this episode, I share why you might find yourself feeling bored once you end your infidelity si…
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182. Why Considering Non-Monogamy Might Not be Helpful
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31:40In this week’s episode, I talk about why exploring non-monogamy COULD be a way to resolve your infidelity situation… and when why exploring non-monogamy may NOT going to be an effective way to resolve your infidelity situation. As non-monogamy becomes a more and more legitimate way to configure our relationships, it’s increasingly important to use …
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181. How to Tell Someone You've Cheated on Them
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42:06Before initiating the conversation with your partner about your affair, there are some things you need to be clear on. In today’s episode, I discuss how to tell your partner about your affair and provide tips on how to approach this conversation in two different kinds of circumstances. When you find yourself in the situation of telling your partner…
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180. When Your Affair Partner Has an Agenda for You
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31:45Is your affair partner invested in helping you leave your committed relationship? In today’s episode, I explain the importance of understanding the extent to which your focus is on your affair partner’s desires and how to be aware if the decisions you’re making are for yourself. Even if you want the same things your affair partner wants, you each h…
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179. How Long Should You Wait for Your Affair Partner to Leave Their Marriage?
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36:16Today, I look at the question of how long you should wait for your affair partner to leave their marriage. Maybe you don’t want to set a timeline for your partner and prefer to wait indefinitely for them to leave. Regardless of your situation, I guide you in making the decision that is right for you. Learn the questions to ask yourself and discover…
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178. When You Have an Agenda for Your Affair Partner
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34:21Today, I’m talking to those of you who have an agenda for your affair partner. Even though you mean well, the truth is that you can only manage your own business. It’s important to let your affair partner figure things out for themselves, and today, I’ll explain why. Understanding what you want when you have an agenda, whether you realize it or not…
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Whether you've been a dedicated listener for a while or have just recently tuned in to the podcast, you might be curious about what it's like to work together. In this episode, I share what it's like to receive my coaching and how it can benefit you, regardless of the type of infidelity situation you are in. I discuss my philosophy and approach to …
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The feeling of fear is one of the things that can make infidelity situations seem so hard to deal with. There are a LOT of things that might seem scary within your infidelity situation. Will life as you know it come to an end if you choose to pursue a relationship that began as an affair? Will you kids hate you forever if you choose to end your mar…
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Are you ready to make some changes but don't know where to start? This week, I share some helpful tools to help you create change and resolve your infidelity situation. You might need to do things you’ve never done before, and that’s okay. I explain how the sooner you find a way to address the situation, the better your overall quality of life will…
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174. Believing in Your Capacity to Change
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23:44With a new year beginning, there's a feeling of change in the air for some. And maybe that change has to do with your infidelity situation. In this episode, I explore how to take charge of change in your infidelity situation, the reasons we sometimes avoid change, and why our mindset is the number one factor in making change. Tune in to learn how t…
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I believe that “difficulty” is not an absolute truth or fact but rather a matter of our thinking. In this episode, I discuss the many ways we can think differently about difficult situations. I revisit my concept of the “think, feel, act” cycle and explore how you can reshift your thinking around the idea of difficulty. When we don’t deal with the …
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Often, people dealing with an affair ending come up against disenfranchised grief and finding forced validity in their experience. In today’s episode, I discuss how to deal with missing your affair partner in a way that supports your feelings and reasons, regardless of your support system or situation. Learn how to get through the three main stages…
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171. The Extreme Highs and Lows of Infidelity
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25:26Often, our infidelity situations come with extreme highs and lows. In this episode, I talk about that emotional rollercoaster and how the extreme ups and downs can feel like a really big deal. I discuss different situations where these ups and downs can occur and how handling this rollercoaster is totally doable. You get to decide how you want to r…
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170. Planning to Break up with Someone After the Holidays
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31:15Holidays or not, there’s never a perfect time to break up with someone. You may have been planning to break up with your partner, but then Thanksgiving rolled around, now Christmas, and then it's New Year's…I get it, and it's okay to choose to wait. But how will you go through with your choice when the holidays are all said and done? In this episod…
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169. Integrating Your Affair Partner Into Your Family
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34:32The holidays are fast approaching, and you might be in the midst of figuring out your family’s plans. More importantly, you may be figuring out how to integrate your former affair partner, now partner, into your family’s holiday plans. In this episode, I explore how to prepare for the different scenarios and responses that you may experience when b…
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