The INDEED Evaluation Podcast interviews leading practitioners, experts, policy makers, researchers and evaluators working in the fields of evidence-based evaluation, policy and practice in preventing and countering violent extremism and de-radicalisation. The podcast of the INDEED Project – www.indeedproject.eu – the podcast is made possible due to the generous funding of the European Commission. The INDEED Projects has received funding by the European Union’s Horizon 2020 research and inno ...
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Ep. 15 Leena Malkki "Strengthening cooperation between researchers, policymakers and practitioners"
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43:35In this episode Kai Brand-Jacobsen sits down with Dr. Lena Malkki, a leading expert in the field of Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) and de-radicalisation. Together, they dive deep into the critical role of collaboration in these areas, highlighting how involving evaluators early in the process can bridge the gap between on-the-g…
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Ep. 14 Lotta Rahlf "Insights from country-comparative analysis of PCVE evaluation structures & capacities"
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42:02In this episode, we dive into the fascinating research of Lotta Ralph, a doctoral candidate at the Peace Research Institute in Frankfurt, who is exploring the evaluation structures and capacities in preventing and countering violent extremism (PCVE) across Europe. Lotta shares insights from her comprehensive study spanning 21 European countries, hi…
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Ep. 13 Kamala Chandrakirana "Grounding the Learning Journey in communities of practice"
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1:11:41In this episode, we are joined by Kamala Chandrakirana, a distinguished human rights activist with extensive experience in gender equality and social justice. Kamala Chandrakirana discussed the inadequacies and biases prevalent in traditional monitoring and evaluation (M&E) practices, often led by so-called experts who lack contextual understanding…
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Ep. 12 Deepthy Menon "Feminist Thinking on Evaluation"
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44:20In this episode we meet Deepthy Menon from Urgent Action Fund Asia and the Pacific, where she leads the Shifting Narratives and organisational learning initiatives. Deepthy brings a fresh perspective on reimagining feminist evaluation and reshaping power dynamics in the development sector. Deepthy delves into the core challenges and opportunities i…
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Ep. 11 Peter Muyshondt "What Practitioners Need from Evaluation A View from the Belgian Police"
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51:22In this interview, Peter Muyshondt, Chief of Police in Rupel, Belgium, sheds light on the evaluation needs within the Belgian police force, particularly regarding their approach to radicalization prevention and intervention. Belgium's police system operates at both local and federal levels, with local police focusing on prevention and federal count…
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Ep. 10 Radar Advies "The RAN Peer and Self Review Manual for Exit Work"
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36:28In this Knowledge Series interview, Fenna Keijzer and Maarten van de Donk discuss how organizations can effectively review their processes, learn from evaluations, and avoid the phenomenon known as "Evaluation Panic." Keijzer and van de Donk, both senior advisers at RadarAdvies, share insights from their work with "Exit" programs designed to help i…
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Ep. 9 Gazbiah Sans "Gendered Approaches to Evaluation How to Embed Gender Evaluation in Initiative Design"
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1:17:39In this Knowledge Series interview, we delve into the expertise of Gazbiah SANS, Director of PCVE work, renowned for her extensive background in gender inclusion and mainstreaming within fragile and conflict-affected contexts. With over 15 years of experience, Gazbiah has notably collaborated with USAID on addressing Boko Haram issues in Cameroon a…
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Ep. 8 Kai Brand-Jacobsen "Designing Evidence-Based Initiatives in the PCVE realm"
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43:36Kai Brand-Jacobsen, President of the Romanian Peace Institute (PATRIR) and Director of the Department of Peace Operations (DPO), shares his insights on designing evidence-based initiatives in the peacebuilding and conflict resolution realm. With over 25 years of experience, Brand-Jacobsen emphasizes the importance of grounding initiatives in robust…
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Ep. 7 Kai Brand-Jacobsen "Conducting Evidence-Based Evaluation in the PCVE and De-Radicalisation Fields"
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46:58In an insightful interview, Kai Brand-Jacobsen, President of the Romanian Peace Institute and a seasoned expert in peacebuilding, emphasizes the critical need for evidence-based evaluation in the fields of Preventing/Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) and de-radicalization. With over 25 years of experience, Brand-Jacobsen discusses the evolving r…
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Ep. 6 Sophie Ebbecke "Learning from the PrEval Experience"
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12:26In the realm of Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE), rigorous evaluation practices play a pivotal role in shaping effective strategies. Sophie Ebbecke, a Research Associate at the Global Public Policy Institute in Berlin, provides insights into the PrEval Initiative, focusing on advancing evaluation methodologies within P/CVE, civic…
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Ep. 5: Rut Bermejo Casado "Policy Evaluation: Challenges, Difficulties and What can be Improved"
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34:34The interview focuses on the challenges and potential improvements in policy evaluation, particularly in the realm of preventing and countering violent extremism (P/CVE) and de-radicalization (DeRad). Featuring Rut Bermejo Casado, an associate professor at University Rey Juan Carlos in Madrid, the discussion delves into the crucial role of policy e…
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Ep. 2: Michael Quinn Patton "How to Act on/and Make Sense of Evidence"
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1:01:17In this Knowledge Series Interview, Michael Q. Patton, a trailblazer in the evaluation field and Founder and CEO of Utilization-Focused Evaluation, discusses the critical importance of interpretive capacity over mere data accuracy. With over five decades of experience and several influential books to his name, Patton emphasizes that the ability to …
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Ep. 3: Aileen Van Leewen "Introduction to Monitoring and Evaluation in the Counter-Terrorism & P/CVE Fields"
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30:47In this Knowledge Series interview, Aileen Van Leewen, an M&E Officer at the International Centre for Counterterrorism (ICCT), introduces the fundamentals of Monitoring and Evaluation (M&E) within the Counterterrorism and Preventing/Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) fields. She highlights the importance of building a culture of evaluation to gai…
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Ep. 4: Norbert Leonhardmair "Gender, Ethical and Societal Aspects of Evaluation of P/CVE"
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13:09In this episode, Norbert Leonhardmair, a researcher and project manager at the Vienna Centre for Social Security (VICESSE), discusses the critical role of gender, ethics, and societal aspects in the evaluation of preventing and countering violent extremism (P/CVE) initiatives. The INDEED Project utilizes the Gender, Ethical, Legal, and Societal Asp…
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Ep. 1: Stephan Klose "Introduction to Evidence-Based Evaluation in the P/CVE and De-Radicalisation Fields."
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28:55In this episode, Stephan Klose, a Postdoctoral Researcher at the Brussels School of Governance, provided valuable insights into Evidence-Based Evaluation (EBE) within the fields of Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) and de-radicalization. With extensive academic background including a PhD from VUB and an MA from Lund University, Kl…
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