Best Christine Heath Podcasts (2025)

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CNLP 751 | The 6 Surprising Traits of Sticky Sermons And Why Focusing On The Problem is the Wrong Approach—With Dan Heath 1:11:27

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Dan Heath, author of Made to Stick, The Power of Moments, and other seminal leadership books, talks about the six surprising traits of sticky sermons, how to design church experiences people never forget, why focusing on the problem is the wrong approach to leadership, what he's learned from Chick-fil-A, and getting people to change. 🔗 Show Notes 📩…

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Episode 199: What Explains Psychological Shifts? 32:22

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Those of us who work with the Three Principles often describe "shifts in level of consciousness" that awakened us, and that are the essence of change for clients who benefit from realizing the Principles that explain our life experience. These shifts are insights, the source of change, and they arise from quieting our minds and trusting wisdom will…

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CNLP 750 | Inside Tim Keller's Mind: Matt Smethurst on Keller's Preaching, DNA, and Rule of Life 1:14:08

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Matt Smethurst has listened to and studied more hours of Tim Keller's preaching and teaching than almost anyone alive. In this conversation, Matt gets us inside Tim Keller's mind, breaking down what made Keller's preaching so effective, his DNA, and even his rule of life. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of L…

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Episode 198: Believing in Our Own BS 33:50

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We make up ideas about ourselves, take on ideas others have about us, and wonder why we have different thoughts about the same things day to day. We see this in others -- the girl with the beautiful voice who refuses a solo because she thinks she can't stay on key alone; the bright young man who never speaks up in class because he thinks he would b…

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CNLP 749 | Revival Series Pt. 5 | Why God is Moving So Powerfully Now: JP Pokluda on Gen Z and Gen Alpha Revival and How to Share the Gospel with Your Uber Driver 1:08:52

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In Part 5 of our Revival series, JP Pokluda brings firsthand accounts of how God is moving in college stadiums. He shares the Gospel with your Uber driver, server, and other people you meet, what's different about Gen Z and Gen Alpha, and why God is moving so powerfully now. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art o…

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CNLP 748 | Revival Series Pt. 4 | Gen Z Men Converting—UK Church Revival Lessons for America: Nicky Gumbel, Al Gordon and Stephen Foster on Reversing Generations of Church Decline 1:18:59

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In Part 4 of the Revival series, Nicky Gumbel, Al Gordon, and Stephen Foster explain how and why Gen Z men in the UK are becoming Christians in record numbers. They discuss how they're seeing generations of church decline reversed and what America can learn from it. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leaders…

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CNLP 747 | Revival Series Pt. 3 | Revival Broke Out at Saddleback: Andy Wood and Luke LeFevre on How Far the Church In America Has Fallen and the Way Back 1:44:46

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In Part 3 of our Revival series, Andy Wood (Lead Pastor of Saddleback Church) and Luke LeFevre (A Gen Z preacher who works with the Gather movement) discuss a prophetic word Luke received about an outpouring of the Spirit at Saddleback church. They discuss the prophetic word, what actually happened, how God is moving at Saddleback, and the implicat…

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CNLP 746 | Revival Series Pt. 2 | Preparing and Preaching For Revival: Jon Tyson on the History, Dynamics and Prep You Need to Be Ready for Revival 1:14:40

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In Part 2 of our Revival series, Jon Tyson does a deep dive on the history of revival, including a detailed account of what happened/is happening in the Hebrides and in NYC. Jon explores how to prepare and preach for revival, how to be sensitive to its dynamics, and what to do to get ready personally and organizationally. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise…

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CNLP 745 | Revival Series Pt. 1 | Inside the Asbury Outpouring: Zach Meerkreebs on the Sermon that Sparked Revival, Miracles, and Gen Z's Spiritual Awakening 1:30:00

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In our Revival Series opener, Zach Meerkreeb shares the backstory of the Asbury Outpouring sparked by his sermon, which didn't go particularly well. He explores Gen Z's unique spiritual awakening, the power of humility and confession, and offers guidance for church leaders who want to see revival in their churches. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsle…

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Episode 197: You're Not Special. Unique, Maybe, but Not Special 34:46

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As we grow up, we start to think about ourselves. We react to our parents' and other adults' expectations of us, and measure our worth against our performance. We watch people we admire and compare ourselves to them. The more we start to wonder how we're doing, the more we use our thinking to compare ourselves to others when we feel uncertain or in…

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CNLP 744 | This One Thing Separates Ministry Survivors from Ministry Casualties: Ray Johnston's Secret to Lasting Decades In Ministry 1:48:54

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Ray Johnston, senior pastor of Bayside Church in Sacramento, CA, reflects on decades of ministry and how to stay encouraged in ministry even when you feel done, why cynicism is incurable, how to finish well, and how to park your ego so you can raise up a team of all-stars. This episode is a 90-minute breakdown of what a long obedience in the same d…

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CNLP 743 | Stuck Under a Bad Boss? Bree Groff on How to Thrive, Lead Up, and Transform Your Job 1:08:54

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One question church leaders keep asking is "what do I do about my boss/lead pastor? Enter Bree Groff, workplace expert who explains what to do when you have a bad boss, don't love your job, and the future of work. Plus, Bree talks about how to become a better boss and what kind of jobs are going to make the cut during the coming AI revolution. 🔗 Sh…

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Episode 196: Common Misunderstandings, Part 2 35:00

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The sign that we're overthinking is that whatever we're doing starts to feel difficult and we start to feel more confused and urgent. The more we think, the more we get lost in our thoughts. Often our life training, or our inclination, is to keep trying harder to figure things out. But the feeling of confusion or urgency that arises is a warning si…

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CNLP 742 | 2025 Church Trends UPDATE: The Gen Z Revival is Real (New Data) + The Mental Health Crisis is Shifting To A Whole New Front 26:12

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Major update to Carey's 2025 church trends with stunning new data. Gen Z church attendance has quadrupled (4% to 16%), with young men leading at 21%. US data shows similar revival patterns. Meanwhile, AI therapy/companionship has become the #1 use for ChatGPT, potentially worsening the mental health crisis. In this episode, Carey shares updates on …

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CNLP 741 | How To Know When You've Crossed A Moral Line: Max Lucado on Church Leadership, Moral Failure, and How to Tame Your Thoughts 1:09:37

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Max Lucado talks about his new role at Gateway Church, how to carry the trauma and disappointment of a congregation after the senior pastor has breached trust, how to know if and when you've crossed a moral line that requires resignation, and how to tame your thought life. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of …

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CNLP 740 | Overpoliticized and Undermoralized: David Brooks on the American Church, Culture, Becoming a Christian and Being Pastored By Tim Keller 1:09:05

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What if our culture’s biggest crisis isn’t political, but spiritual and relational? New York Times columnist, bestselling author, and Atlantic columnist David Brooks talks about how American culture has changed in our lifetime and why he thinks it's overpoliticized and undermoralized. Plus, he shares how he became a Christian, his friendship with T…

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Episode 195: Common Misunderstandings, Part 1 36:12

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We sometimes make relationships and communications more difficult than they need to be through innocent misunderstanding of the state of mind that facilitates good communication. Common communication problems are not truly listening, which happens when we're thinking about the next point we want to make or taking things personally and thinking abou…

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CNLP 739 | Young and Fighting About Money, Sex and Power: Ashley and Jaime Wooldridge on How They Radically Transformed Their Marriage and Went On To Lead One of America's Fastest Growing Churches 1:07:50

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There's nothing like honesty when it comes to hearing people's stories. CCV Lead Pastor Ashley Wooldridge returns to the podcast with his wife, Jaime. In a raw conversation, they open up about their first decade of marriage in corporate life, how that almost did them in as a couple, and how a journey into radical generosity transformed their marria…

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CNLP 738 | Don't Make the Pastor the Product: Ashley Wooldridge on Building One of America's Fastest-Growing Churches Through Team Empowerment 1:32:05

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Lessons from one of America's fastest-growing and largest churches, Christ Church of the Valley (CCV). Senior Pastor Ashley Wooldridge talks about lessons he learned from a decade at Intel before working at a church, how teamwork trumps talent, EQ as a key to success, and why the pastor can't be the product. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️…

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CNLP 737 | Toxic Masculinity and the Church: Derwin Gray on Using Ministry to Heal Childhood Wounds, Lessons from the NFL, and The Challenge of Finding the Right Team 1:03:51

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Derwin Gray talks about toxic masculinity and how it plays out in the NFL, the culture, and the church. Plus, insights on using ministry to heal childhood wounds and the challenge of finding the right staff in a growing church. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @…

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Episode 194: Going Too Fast and Missing the Point of Living 35:08

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Christine offers the metaphor of life seeming like a high-speed train ride. We settle down, look out, and take in the view as the train slowly starts to move. Then we experience the illusion, as the train speeds up, that life is moving past us. Suddenly, when the train reaches full speed, life is a blur rushing by, and we can barely take it in or e…

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Wyn Morgan: People think transformation is about doing. But it’s actually about seeing. 33:12

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In this final episode of Season 7, I’m joined by Wyn Morgan for a grounded and revealing conversation about real transformation — and why it has nothing to do with effort or self-improvement. Wyn and I explore what happens when we stop trying to fix ourselves and instead begin to see clearly. This one is personal, reflective, and full of insight th…

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CNLP 736 | Why Dying Churches Need to Give Growing Churches Their Buildings: The Argument and The Main Objections 30:21

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Fact: Many churches with facilities and money lack people, while churches with people often lack facilities and funds. In this episode, Carey Nieuwhof argues why dying churches should transfer their buildings to growing congregations. He addresses the 5 key objections to this transition and demonstrates why overcoming these barriers creates a win f…

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CNLP 735 | 280% More Likely to Come Back: Jason Mitchell on How to Get Visitors To Come Back to Church, The Emotion of Succession and How Preaching Has Changed 1:15:07

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Imagine if your biggest question was, why did our church grow so fast? Jason Mitchell, Lead Pastor of LCBC, talks about what you need to do to see a 280% greater spike in first-time visitors returning to your church, what's changing in preaching, and the emotion of succession. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art…

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Allan Flood: The moment I stopped trying to change, something deeper started shifting. 31:56

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What if change isn’t something you do… but something you stop doing? In this honest and heartfelt conversation, I talk with Allan Flood—a long-time student of the Three Principles who met Sydney Banks in the 1970s—about the profound shift that happens when we stop trying so hard to change ourselves. Allan also lives with MS, and he shares how this …

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CNLP 734 | Is Your Church Overstaffed? Amy Anderson on The Pivotal Differences Between Growing and Declining Churches, and The Legacy of Tony Morgan 58:37

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The Unstuck Group's Amy Anderson discusses how to know if your church is overstaffed (it probably is), the key differences between growing and declining churches, and leading a company after its founder dies. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follo…

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Zach Smith: When Travel Stops Being a Checklist and Starts Being an Experience 37:54

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What happens when you follow the nudge — not the itinerary? In this special episode, I sit down with Zach Smith from Anywhere.com, someone I didn’t know before but felt instantly curious about. There was something different in the way he built his business — not from a standard template, but straight from his heart. This isn’t your typical conversa…

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CNLP 733 | You Are Not Your Work: Arianna Molloy's Blueprint for Overcoming Toxic Calling and Boundary Shaming 1:16:44

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Has your calling become toxic? Biola Professor Arianna Molloy discusses the identity crisis most church leaders face: identifying with their calling so much that it becomes toxic. She also discusses burnout, how to get healthy, and the problems with boundary-shaming your team. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art…

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CNLP 732 | When You Want To Punch a Hole in the Wall: Kyle Idleman on Vulnerability, Insecurity and the Spiritual Gift of Disappointing People 1:12:21

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Kyle Idleman discusses why it's easier to admit a fault on stage than to a friend in person, the times you feel like you want to punch a hole in the wall (and what to do about it), vulnerability, insecurity, and the spiritual gift of disappointing people. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy…

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Episode 193: Denial 36:34

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Life, as Sydney Banks described it, is "a contact sport." In a contact sport, each player has great plays and terrible plays. Wins and losses. Injuries they cause and injuries that happen to them. No one can expect smooth sailing under cloudless skies every minute of every day. Our life is our learning adventure. Life offers us the development of n…

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Al Kenny: Let go of the idea that you’re getting life wrong 50:44

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In this episode of Dream It! Dare It! Do It!, I’m joined by Al Kenny, a grounded, soulful coach who helps people reconnect with their own brilliance—not by adding more, but by seeing what’s already there. We talk about: Letting go of shame and self-judgment Al’s journey from constant self-help to deep peace What it really means to “own it” How life…

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CNLP 731 | Leading With An Inferiority Complex: Chris Hodges Opens Up About Being Bullied, Insecurity, and How to Foster a Successful Succession 1:04:40

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Chris Hodges, founding pastor of Church of the Highlands, opens up for the first time about being bullied as a kid, having an inferiority complex, and how that's impacted his leadership. Plus, he shares how to multiply leaders to craft a successful succession. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Ac…

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Lila Turner: The most radical thing you can do is not listen to a thought that normally has your number. 49:50

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Lila Turner joins me to explore a subject we rarely talk about anymore: relationships. In this soulful conversation, we talk about the electric fence of dating, the thinking we avoid, and the radical insight of not believing the same old thoughts. Lila shares her journey behind writing Becoming Relationship Ready, and I admit a few things that surp…

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CNLP 730 | Pick My Brain: Are There Limits to Church Growth? Plus, Being Micromanaged and How to Know Who To Fire 32:55

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Carey answers your questions about whether there are limits to church growth, what to do if your elders try to micromanage you, and how to know who to fire and how to do it. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork UPWARD…

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CNLP 729 | Church Growth Unleashed: Adam Mesa on Millennial Pastoring and Viral Podcasting 1:19:37

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Patria Lead Pastor Adam Mesa shares how viral podcasting helped grow his church from 1,100 to 7,500+ in five years, his experience as a millennial taking over leadership from his dad, and navigating the strengths and challenges of ADHD. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube…

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Episode 192: Tricks of the Mind 33:16

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When people are in low moods -- such as anxiety, hopelessness, grief, anger, discouragement -- the immediate response is to figure out what or who is bothering us so we can deal with the perpetrator or circumstance that we think is bringing us down. That is the trick of our mind explained by the Principles. We are the source of our thoughts -- but …

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Linda Pransky: You don’t need to fix the moment—you just need to see it differently. 37:52

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What if peace of mind isn’t something we achieve—but something we notice? In this long-awaited one-on-one conversation, Linda Pransky joins Jasmyne to talk about the incredible shifts that happen when we see our experience differently. With humor, honesty, and grounded insight, Linda shares how we can move through life’s challenges with more ease—n…

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CNLP 728 | The Maniac's Advantage: Ryan Leak on Strategic Preparation, Speaking Success & Meeting Heroes 1:30:45

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Ryan Leak has become one of the most sought-after preachers and leadership speakers today. He explains why he prepares for a three-minute offering talk the same way he preps for a leadership talk to a Fortune 100 company. He also explains what to do to connect with and leave a positive impression with your leadership heroes. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The R…

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Stephanie Benedetto: Authenticity isn’t something to perform. It’s what’s left when we stop performing. 42:51

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What if being seen doesn’t mean putting on a show—but simply being who you already are? In this bright and soulful episode, Stephanie Benedetto joins Jasmyne for a conversation that dances between playfulness and truth. With deep insight and a refreshing approach to visibility and storytelling, Stephanie invites us to unhook from the stories that k…

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CNLP 727 | Clear Your Space, Clear Your Mind: Andrew Mellen's Radical Approach to Personal Organization and Office Communication 1:13:29

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Organizational consultant Andrew Mellen returns to the podcast to discuss the three rules he uses to help leaders organize their work and home life for mental clarity. Plus, why clutter is deferred decision making, and why you should never email a co-worker. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Acad…

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CNLP 726 | Becoming #1 In Your Field: Mark Faris Brings Lessons on Navigating Rapid Growth and Breaking Through Leadership Ceilings 1:28:37

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Real estate mogul Mark Faris talks about going from being cut from professional hockey to becoming the #1 real estate agent and company in the nation. He explains what it took to become #1 in his field, how to break through leadership ceilings, and what every leader can learn to keep growing and improving. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ P…

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Episode 191: Optimism vs. Hopelessness 39:13

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Optimism is looking for the best in people and looking for the beauty in life, and trusting we'll see solutions when faced with challenge. Hopelessness is insecurity about whether people will accept or like us, seeing risk or danger in life, and focusing on analyzing what is wrong when faced with challenge. Those opposite states are not the result …

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Jules Swales: We are not broken—we’re just censored. 35:10

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What if the words you’re afraid to say are the ones your soul most needs to hear? In this beautiful and bold conversation, Jules Swales joins Jasmyne for a deep dive into self-expression, emotional healing, and finding your real voice. Jules teaches method writing—not just as a technique, but as a doorway back to the self we often silence. Together…

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CNLP 725 | Too Young to Lead? John Eldredge on Age, Authority, and the Hidden Hunger Success and Marriage Can't Fill 1:29:58

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John Eldredge asks whether 30 is too young to be a lead pastor (and what to do if you're in your 20s or 30s and leading a large church). He also talks about finding spiritual authority and the stages every man goes through in life, from warrior to king to sage. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership A…

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Episode 190: Labeling Ourselves 36:35

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Over time, we take on ideas about who we are and how we are. We start to see them as our personality, our character. Maybe someone we respect has frequently referred to us as a hard worker. Maybe a friend has commented favorably on our looks. Maybe a sibling has called us stupid. Maybe a counselor has diagnosed us as anxious or depressed. Whatever …

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Maria Iliffe-Wood: There’s something very alive in us that knows what to do, but we often override it with our thinking. 38:45

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What if the pressure to get it right is what’s getting in the way of what’s already right within you? In this quietly powerful episode, executive coach and author Maria Iliffe-Wood joins Jasmyne for a heartfelt conversation about leadership, presence, and the wisdom that’s always available—if we just stop and listen. With calm clarity and deep insi…

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CNLP 724 | Leadership Wounds That Become Ticking Time Bombs: Levi Lusko on Navigating a Mid-Life Crisis in Ministry at 38 and the Mixed Gifting and Motivations of Preachers 1:26:20

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Levi Lusko opens up about navigating a mid-life crisis in ministry at 38 and identifying wounds that become a ticking time bomb. Plus, Levi and Carey explore the mixed motives and gifting of preachers. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @thea…

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Episode 189: The Power To Think Is Our Power To Change 32:40

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We don't always realize that the only source of our feelings and experience about life is our power to think and our thoughts coming to life as our personal reality. So we often "blame" our experience on what other people say or think, or believe that we need others to say or do things to make us happy. The Principles explain that our experience is…

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Christine Heath: Life force has intelligence. 39:10

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What if your mental health was never broken to begin with? In this heartfelt conversation, Christine Heath joins Jasmyne to share her decades of experience as a therapist grounded in the Three Principles. Together, they explore what happens when we stop trying to fix ourselves and begin to understand the true nature of healing. Christine offers a c…

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CNLP 723 | Pick My Brain: Raw Answers to Your Leadership Questions on Ambition, Being a "Professional" Christian, and Firing People 35:26

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Carey Nieuwhof takes the top questions young leaders submitted about ambition and how it works for and against you. Plus, he discusses media consumption habits, being a 'professional" Christian because you work on staff, and how to fire people (well). 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 W…