Next Step Leadership is a podcast dedicated to helping you make your next step your best step. Your next step could very well determine the trajectory or direction of your life. Where we step, how we step, and when we step are all vital considerations for your next step. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds combine decades of experience in ministry, higher education, writing, music, leading organizations, and developing teams to inspire you to aspire in life one step at a time. We desire to assi ...
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Interview with Randy Hill, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 13
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22:35Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Pastor Randy Hill. Randy served in production and business for many years, and he now continues working in pastoral ministry. Through his seasons of mourning and grieving, joy and pain in ministry, seeking God and obeying the Father, Randy knows about death and sadness while also knowing the miracles…
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Interview with Randy Hill, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 12
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22:44Randy Hill serves as a pastor, seeking to make a positive difference in the lives of other people. Randy also serves in denominational leadership. Through his years of pastoring, Randy has learned many lessons. Tracy and Chris enjoyed hearing Randy's story of growing up in church and seeing many miracles. Do we still believe in miracles? If so, why…
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Interview with Jeff McCoy, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 11
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23:33Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell hope this second episode in their interview with Jeff McCoy continues guiding you through his journey from pain to healing. It is not just a few steps to success type of process. It is not just a learn-this-lesson-quickly-and-all-will-be-simple. No, our stories include conflict. They include terrible decisions. They…
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Interview with Jeff McCoy, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 10
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23:31Interview with Jeff McCoy, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 10 This week and next week Pastor Chris and Pastor Tracy invite you to listen to a story of both deep sadness and true joy. As they engage in a conversation with their dear friend Jeff McCoy, they believe we all can learn important life lessons from his testimony. Jeff tells of his early years—l…
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Interview with Living Hope Staff, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 9
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46:14Welcome to the second episode of Chris and Tracy’s conversation with the amazing staff from Living Hope Church in Lenoir, NC. Pastor Keith Gilliam and his servant leaders invite you to listen in as they continue their dialogue is this installation that lasts a little longer than the normal weekly Next Step Leadership Podcasts. They discuss key topi…
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Interview with Living Hope Staff, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 8
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43:33Each one of the Next Step Leadership Podcasts for the last few years lasts only a little over twenty minutes. Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell know listeners are in a hurry, so they try to provide important information in a brief segment of time. But today’s episode is the first in a two-part conversation with a church staff—and both chats will be …
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Interview with Michael Ainsworth, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 7
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23:37In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Pastor Michael Ainsworth. Michael has served in ministry for many years—pastoring local churches and leading in a variety of areas with the International Pentecostal Holiness Church. As you listen to this second conversation for the podcast, y…
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Interview with Michael Ainsworth, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 6
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23:48Chris and Tracy invite you to listen in—and to tell your friends to listen also—to their conversation with Pastor Michael Ainsworth. Michael’s story is one that brings a wonderful blend of information and inspiration. He is a true servant leader. Through his years of ministry, he has guided many people toward the love of God. You will be able to he…
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Interview with Mary Rathbone & Christina Carter, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 5
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26:36In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Mary Rathbone and Christina Carter. In last week’s episode we heard of Christina looking for love in dangerous and damaging places. Hearing her story of mistakes made and family addiction, then a Savior’s love accepted, today’s leaders can lea…
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Interview with Mary Rathbone & Christina Carter, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 4
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23:09Chris and Tracy know you will enjoy their conversation with Mary Rathbone and Christina Carter. Mary and Christina work for Moms Adopting Moms. They hope to offer ministry and care for moms and their children. The ministry sets an example of what leaders can do in today’s culture. Rather than just knowing about problems and needs, leaders take acti…
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Interview with Jonathan Altman, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 3
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23:34This is the second episode of Tracy and Chris interviewing Pastor Jonathan Altman. Pastor Jonathan has learned many lessons through his years of ministry. He offers wisdom, ideas, and stories. His heart of kindness will be heard by all those who listen. He loves reading, listening, learning, studying, and caring for people. Churches formerly had pa…
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Interview with Jonathan Altman, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 2
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23:10In this week’s episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy loved their conversation with Pastor Jonathan Altman. You will love it also. Take time to listen in. Think of what parts of Jonathan’s story remind you about your story and the lives of people you know. What thoughts come to your mind as you hear about his parents’ divorce? About him d…
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Chris Maxwell & Tracy Reynolds - Season 5 Kick-Off! - Season 5, Episode 1
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25:48Season five is now beginning. Four seasons finished? That is hard to believe. This collection of podcasts includes many episodes of Next Step Leadership. And a fifth season will bring more. Take time to think about what you have learned from Tracy and Chris through their conversations and their interviews with a wide variety of leaders. If you coul…
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Interview with Jared Anderson & Kelly Wilkerson, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 53
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26:00This week’s Next Step Leadership Podcast includes the second conversation Chris and Tracy enjoy with Jared Anderson and Kelly Wilkerson. Think of the lessons they have learned through years of ministry. Write a list of how you can serve wherever God guides you. Also take time to understand the value and importance of worship for today’s culture. Wh…
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Interview with Jared Anderson & Kelly Wilkerson, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 52
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25:04Tracy and Chris were honored to have a conversation with Kelly Wilkerson and Jared Anderson. In this episode you will learn from the stories of Kelly and Jared. They both have made a positive difference in today’s culture. Listening to their history and how they have gone to where they are now, audiences can remember portions of their own stories. …
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Interview with Kristi Cain, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 51
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24:06In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with their friend Kristi Cain. She talks about the importance of books in spiritual discipleship and relational development. As you listen, think about what books have impacted your life. What did you learn from those books? How did those books challenge you, educa…
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Interview with Kristi Cain, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 50
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23:29Tracy and Chris interviewed Jamie Cain for a previous podcast episode. This week and next week, they offer their fantastic conversations with Jamie’s wife, Kristi Cain. As you hear her story of life and spiritual formation, think about your narrative. Let her journey remind you of key parts of your own adventure. Kristi has been involved academical…
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Interview with Phil Cooke, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 49
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24:03Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds continue their conversation with filmmaker, media consultant, speaker, and author Phil Cooke. In this episode, they continue focusing on Cooke’s new book, Church on Trial: How to Protect Your Congregation, Mission, and Reputation During a Crisis. Listen to Phil’s main points and his stories. This is not a simple, ea…
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Interview with Phil Cooke, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 48
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22:21Tracy and Chris enjoyed having Phil Cooke in two previous episodes of Next Step Leadership, so they invited him back for more conversations. Phil continues helping churches, ministries, and businesses gain a better grasp of marketing and care in today’s culture. As a filmmaker, media consultant, speaker, and author, Phil brings a vast array of rese…
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Interview with Drew Dyck, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 47
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23:27Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds continue their conversation with author and editor Drew Dyck. In this episode, Drew guides the audience through the key points in his book Just Show Up. We often forget the value of that, don't we? We are so success driven, so numbers focused, so outcome addicted. We grade and rank ourselves as leaders based on cult…
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Interview with Drew Dyck, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 46
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23:07Drew Dyck is a wise, creative writer with a wonderful sense of humor. His books and stories reveal those gifts. Tracy and Chris want you to get to know Drew. If you haven't read his books, get your copies and read them. If you haven't heard his stories, please listen to the episodes this week and next week. Drew's story is one many people can relat…
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Interview with Steve Amerson, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 45
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23:32In their second conversation with Steve Amerson, Tracy and Chris talk and listen and laugh again. While many people hear to the news reports and the negativity in today's politics, Steve has gotten to know personally the leaders at Capitol Hill. He listens to their stories. He prays for them and with them. He offers encouragement to them. Televisio…
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Interview with Steve Amerson, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 44
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23:17Chris and Tracy are glad you could join them in another episode of Next Step Leadership. In this conversation, they talk with Steve Amerson—a world class vocalist. Steve has been involved in various ministries and music around the world. Twice monthly he travels to Washington DC to lead Word on the Hill, a spiritual encounter for leaders in the Uni…
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Interview with Tez Brooks, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 43
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23:27This is the second conversation Tracy and Chris have with Tez Brooks. Tez is an author, life coach, missionary, filmmaker, and servant leader. His story and his wisdom are a perfect fit for Next Step Leadership. Tez brings a new perspective of the word “missionary.” His story offers the podcast’s audience a fresh view of mission work and ministry. …
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Interview with Tez Brooks, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 42
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23:30Tracy and Chris interview Tez Brooks in this episode of Next Step Leadership. Tez brings a unique, but fitting perspective for the podcast’s audience. An author, life coach, missionary, filmmaker, and servant leader, Tez tells his story. He knows about family, divorce, raising children by himself while in ministry, departing for a season from vocat…
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Interview with Sandra Glahn, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 41
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23:17In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Sandra Glahn talks again to Tracy and Chris. Her knowledge offers deep, biblical, and practical insight for this podcast’s audience. As a Professor of Media Arts and Worship at Dallas Theological Seminary and as an author or editor of over twenty books including Nobody's Mother, she brings a perspective toda…
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Interview with Sandra Glahn, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 40
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24:07Chris Maxwell has known author and professor Sandra Glahn through their connection with the Evangelical Press Association. Tracy Reynolds joins Chris in inviting Sandra to you. Sandra Glahn, PhD, is a journalist and the author, coauthor, or editor of more than twenty books, including Vindicating the Vixens, Earl Grey with Ephesians, Sanctified Sexu…
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Interview with Karl Vaters, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 39
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24:22In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris continue their conversation with Karl Vaters. Karl is a minister and author who is getting much attention these days. He speaks up for small churches—the often forgotten culture. He offers wisdom and encouragement to pastors who struggle to get churches to follow every new trend and quickly b…
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Interview with Karl Vaters - Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 38
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23:52Pastor and author Karl Vaters is a key voice for today’s spiritual leaders. In a culture highlighting big churches and impressive stats, many ministers feel like failures. But what about tiny churches in small towns? What about the average size church which chooses to send ministers out instead of holding more people inside and hiring a huge staff?…
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Interview with Justin Blankenship, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 37
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23:23This episode of Next Step Leadership offers the second part of the conversation Tracy and Chris had with Pastor Justin Blankenship. As Senior Pastor of Landmark Church in Purcell, OK, Justin discusses how he serves in ministry during these difficult days. Many pastors are leaving their profession. Some are even questioning or departing the faith. F…
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Interview with Justin Blankenship, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 36
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22:42Pastor Justin Blankenship is an ideal guest for Chris and Tracy’s Next Step Leadership podcast. Justin serves as Senior Pastor of Landmark Church in Purcell, Oklahoma. He also is a preacher’s son. He knows all the stories of churches and movements and trends and pastors’ families. He also knows about letting family be a priority, keeping goals in p…
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Interview with Michelle Anthony, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 35
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22:46Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell invite you to “listen in” to this episode of their conversation with author, teacher, minister, and leader Dr. Michelle Anthony. As she started last week, Michelle continues offering wisdom for reaching and discipling families in this confused, sad, unsure culture. Pay close attention as she brings great insight for…
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Interview with Michelle Anthony, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 34
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22:16Dr. Michelle Anthony, the Executive Pastor of Families at New Life Church and Dean of Familymin Academy, is this week’s guest in Next Step Leadership. Michelle is an author, speaker, mentor, and humble leader who is making a positive difference in today’s society. Familymin Academy is a community of people who are passionate about ministry to the d…
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Interview with Lee Mason, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 33
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23:19In this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Pastor Lee Mason. In 2007, Lee and his wife Lisa began Classic City Church, a non-denominational church serving the city of Athens, GA. Lee talks about his book, Ten Historical Facts About Jesus: What Historians Are Certain of Concerni…
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Interview with Lee Mason, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 32
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21:54Through the history of Next Step Leadership podcast, Tracy and Chris have enjoyed their conversations with a variety of guests. This week’s episode is another exciting chat. Pastor Lee Mason, Senior Pastor of Classic City Church in Athens, GA, tells his story of what brought him to his beliefs and his ministry. The narrative reminds audiences the v…
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Chris Maxwell "Things We've Handed Down" NEW BOOK Interview! - Season 4, Episode 31
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26:30Chris Maxwell’s 12th book comes out October 1st. Each of the twelve chapters in the book, “Things We’ve Handed Down: Twelve Letters I Leave for You,” is written as a letter to a reader. The chapter titles are all book titles from books which have impacted Chris’ life. He hopes to hand down to the next generation key life principles that he learned …
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Interview with Bert Synan, Part 2 - Season 4, Episodes 30
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23:40This episode of Next Step Leadership is the second conversation Tracy and Chris have with Pastor Bert Synan. Bert’s honesty is so fitting for the overall message of this podcast’s theme. Our next steps won’t always be the best steps unless we know what our Creator is calling us to do and the true reason we are to do that. How has Bert developed rel…
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Interview with Bert Synan, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 29
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21:58Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell hope to provide you a variety of voices and perspectives on the Next Step Leadership podcast. In this episode, they are honored to let you listen to their conversation with Pastor Bert Synan. Bert has many stories to tell—stories each leader can learn from. His early years of growing up in church, experiencing Jesus…
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Interview with Greg Hearn, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 28
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23:07In their second Next Step Leadership conversation with Greg Hearn, Chris and Tracy appreciate his desire to make a positive difference in today’s difficult culture. Greg’s talents in finances, organization, and leadership have served in ministry areas too often forgotten. As president of Emmanuel University, Greg believes in the institution’s true …
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Interview with Greg Hearn, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 27
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23:07Greg Hearn now serves as President at Emmanuel University. Like many of today’s leaders and their present positions, Greg did not expect to be in this role. But God places His servants where they need to be. Tracy and Chris enjoyed hearing Greg’s story about life, family, growing up as a minister’s kid, education, and where God has now assigned him…
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Interview with Landon Rowell, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 26
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21:53In this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast, Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Landon Rowell. Landon’s story fits many young leaders. Called to ministry in some way, but not totally sure of what that really means. Sensing a deep desire to make a difference in God’s kingdom, Landon took the right classes and began working in new a…
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Interview with Landon Rowell, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 25
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26:15Landon Rowell wasn’t on the original schedule to be interviewed by Chris and Tracy. Landon was serving and helping. He was setting everything up for the podcast. What Landon didn’t know was that his story needed to be heard. So instead of just letting him stay “behind the scenes,” Chris and Tracy wanted his story heard. They believe the younger gen…
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Interview with Charles Powell, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 24
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23:37In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris continue their conversation with Charles Powell. It’s a deep story about life—about a life of wounds and braces and pain. Today’s leaders can only lead correctly when first applying the importance of self-care and deep healing. Dangerous Skills: A Memoir of the Me You Never Knew is the new bo…
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Interview with Charles Powell, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 23
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23:24Charles Powell of LifeSprings and Jagged Rock Media is today’s guest in Next Step Leadership. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds have known Charles many years and wanted their podcast’s audience to hear his story. Through his work in security, rescuing people from human trafficking, studio production, and writing, Charles helps leaders become better …
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Next Step, Best Steps - Chris Maxwell & Tracy Reynolds-Season 4, Episode 22
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23:30Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds usually have guests on their weekly podcast Next Step Leadership. Some weeks, like this one, the conversation includes only Chris and Tracy. These two men have known each other for almost two decades. They’ve worked together, served together, and led together. They continue hoping to learn together. Listen as they o…
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Interview with Chris Green, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 21
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24:01Dr. Chris Green continues as this week’s guest on Next Step Leadership. He again invites listeners to come to the table. Merging the past of Christ’s life and death, and the future life with Christ, he brings the table to our present stories. Through his writing and teaching and arts, Dr. Green provides new thoughts to his tradition. Let his story …
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Interview with Chris Green, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 20
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23:46Author, clergy, and scholar Chris Green is this week’s guest on Next Step Leadership. Through Dr. Green’s years of ministry in the church, academic, and literature sides of our world, he has learned many lessons of leadership. He thinks deeply and connects with many populations. In this first episode with Tracy and Chris, Dr. Green tells his story …
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Friendships in Leadership - Chris Maxwell & Tracy Reynolds - Season 4, Episode 19
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23:33Chris and Tracy usually interview guests. Through their episodes, they have enjoyed conversations with a variety of pastors, authors, leaders, professors, and friends. The importance of that last role—friends—is the emphasis Tracy and Chris bring to their audience in this podcast. They have known each other for almost two decades. They have worked …
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Interview with John R. Miles, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 18
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23:09In this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their chat with John R. Miles. Author of the book and host of the podcast, Passion Struck, John knows much about when life faces change. He knows about uncertainty and redirection. He also knows about dreaming big and enduring hopes. His podcast brings many s…
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Interview with John R. Miles, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 17
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22:19Chris and Tracy continue enjoying helpful conversations with their guests in Next Step Leadership. Each podcast brings new thoughts and ideas. In this episode, they talk with John R. Miles. John tells his story—an interesting and diverse career from serving in the military, national security, management consultant, leading cyber security practice, …
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