Join us at Hangar 46, the Air and Space Power Centre's podcast for the Royal Australian Air Force. Each episode has a different guest joining us in the hangar for a chat with our hosts and cohosts. Our team covers topics like international relations, technology, ethics, culture, emerging air and space power challenges and more. Please note: This podcast is recorded in a live operational hangar, background noises may occur.
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Hangar 46: Commodore Micheal Jacobson, CSM, RAN
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37:13Hangar 46: Commodore Micheal Jacobson, CSM, RAN "Instill the confidence in your very junior leaders, and you can only do that with trust.” Join us in the hangar as we chat to Commodore Micheal Jacobson, CSM, RAN, Director General Submarines, on resiliency, team work, and lessons for Air Force from a submariner. This episode is hosted by Group Capta…
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Hangar 46: Group Captain Katherine Bennell-Pegg
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42:30“I think, you know, whether I’m wearing the blue astronaut flight suit, or the green Air Force flying suit, I’m really looking forward to serving my country” Join us in the hangar as we chat to Group Captain Katherine Bennell-Pegg, an Australian astronaut, and recently commissioned Royal Australian Air Force Officer, on astronaut training, her care…
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"Everything tells a story. Everything is there for a reason." Join us in the hangar as we chat to Mr Matt Anderson PSM, on his career, service, storytelling, and his time as Director of the Australian War Memorial. This episode is hosted by Air Commodore Michael Durant.
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Hangar 46: Aviators at Avalon International Air Show 2025
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40:38Hangar 46: Aviators at Avalon International Air Show 2025 "It's the best thing I've ever done" Join us at Avalon International Air Show 2025, as we swapped the hangar studio for the airfield and chatted to aviators across the Royal Australian Air Force. We caught up with Aircraftman Jacob Mercieca, Wing Commander Philip "Budgie" Parsons, Flight Lie…
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Hangar 46: Close Air Support with The Cove Podcast
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55:10"That’s what we’re all there for. We are a CAS team.” Join us in the hangar for the first ever collaboration episode between Hangar 46 and The Cove Podcast, as we chat to Weapons Systems Operator and recently qualified Fighter Combat Instructor Flight Lieutenant Pete, and Joint Terminal Attack Controller (JTAC) Troop Command Captain Craig Hogendyk,…
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Hangar46: Air Vice-Marshal Wendy Blyth, AM
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40:09"If we don't talk about it, then you don't know" Join us in the hangar for the first time in 2025, as we chat to Air Vice-Marshal Wendy Blyth, AM, on teamwork, navigating parenthood, and her transition from Head of Air Force Capability into Head Force Design. This episode is hosted by Group Captain Michael Sleeman, and co-hosted by Flight Lieutenan…
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Hangar 46: Sergeant Shard Malchow & Squadron Leader Joel Ingram
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54:52"Just believe in the work you've done" Join us in the hangar as Warrant Officer James Hood chats to Sergeant Shard Malchow and Squadron Leader Joel Ingram on endurance sports, resilience, comradery, and physical fitness. This episode is hosted by Warrant Officer James Hood
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Hangar 46: Air Vice-Marshal Glen Braz, AM, CSC, DSM
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31:39"Everything we have that is great, comes about because people contribute to that greatness. It doesn’t happen by accident. t happens because people decide to value add." Join us in the hangar as we chat to Air Commander Australia Air Vice-Marshal Glen Braz, AM, CSC, DSM, about his career, his role, and the warfighter mindset. This episode is hosted…
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Hangar 46: Chief of Air Force Air Marshal Stephen Chappell, DSC, CSC, OAM
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26:06“It’s the ability for our aviators to do that repeatedly and they do. Year in. Year out. Doing the ordinary things extraordinarily well.” Join us in the hangar as we chat to Chief of Air Force Air Marshal Stephen Chappell, DSC, CSC, OAM, about his first 100 days, his intent, and vision. This episode is hosted by Group Captain Michael Sleeman and co…
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Hangar 46 at Exercise Pitch Black 2024: Participant Perspectives - New Zealand Edition
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21:26Hangar 46 at Exercise Pitch Black 2024: Participant Perspectives -New Zealand Edition "The ability to practice our interoperability with the Australian Air Force is just such a cool and unique part of Pitch Black" Join us as we take the hangar to RAAF Base Darwin for Exercise Pitch Black 2024 and chat to New Zealand participants: Corporal Rachel Pu…
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Hangar 46 at Exercise Pitch Black 2024: General Kevin Schneider
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25:42Hangar 46 at Exercise Pitch Black 2024: General Kevin Schneider "But to come together as a team is the greatest deterrent effect" Join us as we take the hangar to RAAF Base Darwin for Exercise Pitch Black 2024 and chat to General Kevin Schneider, Commander, Pacific Air Forces; and Air Component Commander, U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, Joint Base Pearl…
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Hangar 46 at Exercise Pitch Black 2024: Participant Perspectives - Australian Edition
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37:50Hangar 46 at Exercise Pitch Black 2024: Participant Perspectives - Australian Edition "You get to be a part of something bigger than yourself" Join us as we take the hangar to RAAF Base Darwin for Exercise Pitch Black 2024 and chat to Australian participants: Squadron Leader Eamon Hamilton, Flight Lieutenant Kaylee Verrier, Flying Officer Jarod Bec…
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Hangar 46 at Exercise Pitch Black 2024: Colonel Lee Mei Yi
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17:41"It's very exciting to see how we have evolved, how military technology has evolved over the years" Join us as we take the hangar to RAAF Base Darwin for Exercise Pitch Black 2024 and chat to Colonel Lee Mei Yi, the Republic of Singapore Air Force Exercise Director for Exercise Pitch Black 2024. This episode is hosted by Wing Commander Lauren Guest…
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Hangar 46: Major General Tony Rawlins AM, DSC
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47:23"Time is no longer the sacrificial variable" Join us in the hangar as we chat to Head Force Design Major General Tony Rawlins AM, DSC, about his role, his experiences, and moving forward into the future with the ADF. This episode is hosted by Group Captain Michael Sleeman and co-hosted by Squadron Leader Zac Smit…
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Hangar 46 at ASPCon24: Air Marshal Paul Godfrey and Brigadier General Mike Adamson
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37:14Reflection, Space Journey, Paint Flecks, and Space as a Domain. Join us as we take the hangar to the National Convention Centre Canberra for the Air and Space Power Conference 2024 and chat to Air Marshal Paul Godfrey and Brigadier General Mike Adamson. In the time since recording, Air Marshal Paul Godfrey has been promoted to Air Marshal and is no…
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Hangar 46 at ASPCon24: Senior Enlisted Leaders
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34:58"Seek Progress and not Perfection" Join us as we take the hangar to the National Convention Centre Canberra for the Air and Space Power Conference 2024 and chat to Senior Enlisted Leaders. Air Force Command Chief - Military Expert 6 Ng See Lye, Republic of Singapore Air Force Senior Enlisted Leader - Chief Master Sergeant Michael Haywood, Pacific A…
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Hangar 46 at ASPCon24: General Chance Saltzman
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26:52United States Space Force, Space Domain Awareness, and Sense of Calling. Join us as we take the hangar to the National Convention Centre Canberra for the Air and Space Power Conference 2024 and chat to Chief of Space Operations General Chance Saltzman, United States Space Force. During ASPCon24, General Saltzman presented a Keynote Address. This ep…
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Hangar 46 at ASPCon24: Flight Lieutenant Steven Warrior
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22:55Cultural Initiatives, Storytelling, and Connection. Join us as we take the hangar to the National Convention Centre Canberra for the Air and Space Power Conference 2024 and chat to Indigenous Liaison Officer Flight Lieutenant Steven Warrior, proud Kuarna, Narungga, and Kokatha man. This episode is hosted by Group Captain Glenn Orton. Please note: T…
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Hangar 46 at ASPCon24: Corporal Kbora Ali
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17:41Aviator of the Year, Hope, and Support. Join us as we take the hangar to the National Convention Centre Canberra for the Air and Space Power Conference 2024 and chat to Corporal Kbora Ali, Aviator of the Year. This episode is hosted by Warrant Officer Graham Docking. Please note: This episode of Hangar 46 was recorded at the National Convention Cen…
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Hangar 46 at ASPCon24: Air Chief Marshal Lord Peach KG, GBE, KCB, DL
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27:33Listening and learning, North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, and strategic environments. Join us as we take the hangar to the National Convention Centre Canberra for the Air and Space Power Conference 2024 and chat to Air Chief Marshal Lord Peach KG, GBE, KCB DL, the UK Prime Minister's Special Envoy to the Western Balkans. This episode is hosted by…
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Strategic Empathy and Leadership. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Dr Claire Yorke, Senior Lecturer at the Australian War College, Deakin University; about strategic empathy, what does that mean, how does it give context to previous military actions, and how is it used to create efficient and meaningful leaders. Find Dr Claire Yorke's work here …
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Hangar 46: Commander, Space Command Major General Greg Novak, AM
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34:01100 Days, Space Command, and Structuring for Success. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Commander, Space Command Major General Greg Novak, AM; about his role and career experience, how the space domain is a domain in its own right and not an enabler, and what he has planned for Space Command. This episode was hosted by Group Captain Michael Sleem…
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Hangar 46: Senior Enlisted Advisor to the Chief of the Defence Force Warrant Officer Ken Robertson OAM
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49:51SEAC, rallying points, workforce, recruitment and retention. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Senior Enlisted Advisor to the Chief of the Defence Force Warrant Officer Ken Robertson OAM; about his role as SEAC and what that means, his ambitions and goals, and connecting the enlisted workforce. This episode was hosted by Group Captain Michael Sle…
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International Relations, Research, Australian Context. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Professor Stephen Burgess; about his time at the Air War College, his research and students, international relations, strategy, and more. This episode of Hangar 46 is hosted by Group Captain Michael Sleeman
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Hangar 46: Deputy Chief of Air Force Air-Vice Marshal Harvey Reynolds, AM
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55:30Career pathways, cultivation, Ready Reserves, Comradery. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Deputy Chief of Air Force Air-Vice Marshal Harvey Reynolds, AM; about his time on deployment, personal growth, commissioning, his role as DCAF and more.
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Hangar 46: Wing Commander Ben "Chainsaw" Sawley
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36:27Growth, workforce, new ideas and experiences. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Wing Commander Ben "Chainsaw" Sawley, Commanding Officer of 1 Flying Training School (1FTS); about his time on deployment, how he shaped his leadership style, and 1 Flying Training School.
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Hangar 46: Group Captain Steve "Fergs" Ferguson
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49:47Leadership, resilience, identity, and growth. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Group Captain Steve "Fergs" Ferguson, Director Undersea Warfare & Surveillance Contestability Division; about his time in Antarctica, handling his evolution into leadership, his mentors and more.
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Political Science. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Professor Eliot Cohen, political scientist and the former Counselor of the United States Department of State; about military powers, recruitment, historical military occurrences, and more.
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Military ethics and profession. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Professor David Whetham of King's College London, about military ethics, conflict, and more.
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Hangar 46: Warrant Officer of the Air Force Ralph Clifton
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33:33Inspiration, journey, workforce, and experiences. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Warrant Officer of the Air Force Ralph Clifton about what inspired and influenced him, his journey to where he is today, and what superhero he would be.
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Hangar 46: Chief of Air Force Air Marshal Rob Chipman, AM, CSC
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31:15Workforce, culture, leadership, identity and connection. Join us in the hangar as we chat to Chief of Air Force Air Marshal Rob Chipman, AM, CSC, about his journey to becoming Chief of Air Force, his experiences in the role and the future.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E31 - Vladimir Perejogin - Neuromorphic Event Based Sensing for Airborne Surveillance
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16:11In this talk, we present initial findings of the world-first airborne Neuromorphic Event Based Sensor (EBS) on-board the Defence Experimentation Airborne Platform for enhancing remote sensing for urban and maritime surveillance.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E30 - Ulas Yildrim - Developing a Modular Demonstrator Kit to Produce ‘Drop-In’ Alternative Jet Fuels
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10:34This presentation will discuss the rationale behind the need for alternative jet fuels, the advantages/challenges associated in their uptake and the development of a modular demonstrator kit for producing ‘drop-in’ alternative jet fuels from indigenous feedstock.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E29 - Taro Tsuchimochi - Small drones pose a new threat to the battlefield
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15:56This presentation will focus on small toy drones, which can be called “IEDs in the sky” and analyze the current situation in which it is becoming difficult for airbase-based warfare and traditional air defence systems to cope with.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E28- Steve Gehly - Maneuver Detection and Analysis of the M2 Cubesat Separation Using Optical Data
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11:59This talk examines methods of relative orbit determination using angles-only measurements of objects in Low Earth Orbit, as exemplified using the M2 cubesat mission.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E27 - Sophie Primig - Materials Design of Next Generation Aerospace Alloys Via Conventional and Advanced Manufacturing Routes
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14:27This talk will give an overview over handpicked projects on materials design, advanced microscopy and modelling of manufacturing processes for modern aerospace alloy parts.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E26 - Samuel Boland - Efficient Verification of Micro Satellite Systems
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14:06This presentation covers verification methods applied for low-cost satellite projects (currently 5 satellites in orbit) at UNSW Canberra Space
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E25 - Russell Boyce - CubeSats and LEOs
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33:27This presentation will explore developments in Cubesats, Space Domain Awareness, SATCOM and in-orbit artificial intelligence at the UNSW Canberra Space, which is one of the largest concentrations of space researchers in Australia with about 30 academic and professional engineering staff covering all necessary engineering disciplines and with access…
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E24 - Pauline Pounds - Towards Blind Micro Drone Collision Avoidance
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16:10We propose to use the aerodynamic forces generated by a drone’s rotors and interactions between the air and surrounding surfaces during flight as a sensor to drive a collison avoidance algorithm causing the aircraft to pitch or roll away from nearby objects through entirely passive means.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E23 - Patrick Hartley - Enabling Australia’s Hydrogen Industry Development - The role of CSIRO’s Hydrogen Industry Mission
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16:18This presentation will comprise an overview of the current status of Australia’s Hydrogen industry and will showcase selected examples of recent activities across the Mission’s pillars, including technological developments in areas relevant to innovation and resilience in air and space power.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E22 - Myles Clarke - Military Additive Manufacturing Experience
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16:55In future high-end warfighting contingencies capability needs that are currently met in months or years must be met be within days. In this presentation, NX will share the results from an exercise in which an example high-end capability had a solution designed, produced, tested and delivered in a week.…
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E21 - Mike Moroney - Next Generation Acquisition and Sustainment
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16:44In this presentation, CASG NX will explain how it has facilitated key Industry 4.0 changes for Defence through its Agile approach and partnerships.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E20 - Melrose Brown - Photometric State Estimation for Low Earth Orbit Space Domain Awareness
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15:35This talk provides an update of the work conducted at UNSW Canberra Space to address the challenges in the LEO domain through combining light curves collected by the Falcon Telescope Network (FTN) with GPU accelerated ray tracing techniques that are benchmarked against truth data obtained from the RAAF-funded M2-A, M2-B, and M2 Pathfinder missions.…
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E19 - Kate Yaxley - What does herding sheep have to do with future capability
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15:47In this presentation, we discuss how to understand behaviour shaping and influence of swarm systems using livestock mustering, which can be used for smart autonomous systems design philosophy, swarm agent models, and centre of influence techniques.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E18 - Jason Scholz - Capturing the Value of Disruptive Innovations for Defence Aerospace
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18:10In this talk, we outline the principles for capturing the value of disruptive innovations, in order to aid the Defence Cooperative Research Centre to award research grants to rightful winners; nurture emerging leaders and entrepreneurs; encourage ambition with risk appetite; find novel solutions to needs and demonstrate; create, capture and manage …
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E17 - James Deverell - Alternative Aviation Fuel Pathways for the RAAF
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20:29In this talk, two categories of pathways for alternative fuels are considered: (1) commercially available solutions that could be adapted and progressed immediately to a demonstration/pilot; (2) and those that require further development over the next five years.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E16 - Henry Bilinski - Advances in Drag-Reducing Sharkskin Films for Enhanced Aerospace Capability
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14:38This talk presents a unique microfabrication technique using microstructured light patterns to produce shark-skin inspired “riblet” microstructures for reducing skin-friction drag experienced by aircraft.
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E15 - Heidi Hauf - Achieving sustainable aerospace
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15:43This presentation dicusses the virtual trade framework which enables defence to rapidly adapt to merging technologies and skillsets. Virtual Trades are intended to complement the existing mustering framework by incentivising the establishment of emerging skillsets and providing a talent pool to meet future needs.…
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E14 - Harrison Bennett - Development of Space Environment Testing for Improving Resilience of Low-cost Commercial Small Satellites and Payloads
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12:02In order to ensure a resilient spacecraft production (e.g. Buccaneer Main Mission), we present our efforts to develop testing methodologies such as: space thermal testing using a thermal vacuum chamber, magnetometer testing using a Helmholtz cage, life cycle testing using external radiation chambers, and attitude control testing using a hemispheric…
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ASPCon22 - Innovation Expo S1E13 - Edwin Peters - Optical and Passive Radio Frequency Measurements for Space Domain Awareness Orbit Determination and Characterisation
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10:47To improve space traffic management and mitigate the collisional orbital risk, we propose to combine optical observations with passive radio frequency measurements to increase the determination accuracy of orbiting satellites.
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