Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming are experienced education renegades who have worked in many various educational institutions and educational companies across the world. They talk about Artificial Intelligence in Education - what it is, how it works, and the different ways it is being used. It's not too serious, or too technical, and is intended to be a good conversation. Please note the views on the podcast are our own or those of our guests, and not of our respective employers (unless we say othe ...
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Food & Wine has led the conversation around food, drinks, and hospitality in America and around the world since 1978. Tinfoil Swans continues that legacy with a new series of intimate, informative, surprising, and uplifting conversations with the biggest names in the culinary industry, sharing never-before-heard stories about the successes, struggles, and fork-in-the-road moments that made them who they are today. Each week, you'll hear from icons and innovators like Daniel Boulud, Guy Fieri ...
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Join Lawrence Lotze, a resilient survivor of a brain tumor, as he travels the globe virtually to bring you inspiring stories from successful business owners to popular sports stars. In each episode, Lawrence discusses with his guests the journey to their successes, challenges they faced, & biggest takeaways from their invaluable experience. From bustling streets of New York to scenic beaches of Sydney, discover what drives & motivates influential people who are changing the game in their res ...
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From Hollywood to Healthcare: AI That Cares
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33:26In this special solo-hosted episode, Ray is joined by Dr. Mike Seymour from the University of Sydney, recorded live at the 2025 AI in Higher Education Symposium. You can find Mike through LinkedIn and the University of Sydney Mike shares captivating insights from his work in digital humans - lifelike AI avatars that can support learning, healthcare…
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Romy Gill puts in the work — always. Growing up in India, the chef, TV host, and author dreamed of being a cricket player and directed all her effort into that — and into lightly fibbing her way into her neighbors' homes to try different dishes than the ones she ate in her Punjabi household. It's this hunger and curiosity about other people and the…
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In this episode of the AI in Education Podcast, Ray and Dan return from a short break with a packed roundup of AI developments across education and beyond. They discuss the online launch of the AEIOU interdisciplinary research hub that Dan attended, explore the promise and pitfalls of prompt engineering—including the idea of the “Uber prompt”—and s…
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Vikas Khanna and the Beautiful Lie That Saved His Childhood
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49:15When Vikas Khanna was growing up in a small town in India, the world was stacked against him. He was bullied by other children for wearing braces on his legs and not being able to play like them. But his grandmother and sister saw him for who he truly was: a lion. They brought him into the kitchen, and he roared to life. An extraordinary life at th…
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Ep. 132 - Ray Everest on Teen Fatherhood, Mental Health & Becoming a Leader Who Listens
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59:44This week, I’m sitting down with with Ray Everest — a former school principal, teen father, entrepreneur, and New Zealand’s Commonwealth Games weightlifting coach. Ray’s journey is one of raw honesty, resilience, and the kind of self-leadership that only comes through doing the work when no one’s watching.Becoming a father at just 16 years old, Ray…
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Laurie Woolever has worked for chefs you've definitely heard of, most notably Anthony Bourdain and Mario Batali. Those two men are notorious for their outsized appetites, but in her new memoir, "Care and Feeding," Woolever gets raw and real about her own insatiable need for drugs, alcohol, and extramarital affairs while navigating the grossness and…
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Roy Choi and the Out-of-Body Emeril Experience
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1:03:41Growing up as an immigrant latchkey kid, Roy Choi spent a lot of time wandering the streets of Los Angeles alone, thinking he'd never fit in anywhere. He had a scar on his face from cleft palate surgery, and he thought of himself as an alley cat, slipping through the world unnoticed and he took in every detail of the way people interacted, especial…
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Designing the Future: Learning Designers Meet AI
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48:23Series 11, Episode 11 Designing the Future: Learning Designers Meet AI with Minh Huynh and Cory Dal Ponte In this episode of the AI in Education Podcast, we bring you two powerful conversations that explore the evolving role of learning designers and their growing impact in the world of AI-enabled education. Together, these two interviews reveal th…
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Byron Gomez and his family arrived in the United States from Costa Rica when he was eight years old, and he was in for the shock of his young life. He spoke Spanish at home, he'd never seen snow or even a winter coat, and he had to find his place in a world that didn't always want him there. But at age 15, he found restaurants. He put in the very h…
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From BYO AI to the Turing Test: What Just Happened in Education?
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32:12This week, Dan and Ray dive into a whirlwind of AI news shaking up the education world. From $40K private schools with AI tutors to universities reporting chatbot-driven grade boosts, they unpack what’s hype and what’s happening. Plus, they explore the ethics of AI image generation, energy use in data centers, and whether GPT-4.5 is now officially …
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Ep. 131 - Stanley Henry - From Rock Bottom to Building an Digital Empire
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51:19This week, I’m sitting down with Stanley Henry, the founder of The Attention Seeker, who went from struggling in corporate life to building a powerhouse agency that helps businesses and individuals craft personal brands that truly stand out.But Stanley’s journey wasn’t just about business—it was about breaking free from expectations, finding his vo…
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Tinfoil Swans Is Serving Up Season 3: April 8, 2025
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2:29The award-winning Tinfoil Swans podcast from Food & Wine is back on April 8. We're bringing you even more intimate, informative, surprising, and uplifting interviews with the biggest names in the culinary industry and beyond, sharing never-before-heard stories about the successes, struggles, and fork-in-the-road moments that made them who they are …
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How two people built an AI tool for 15,000 students
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43:44Yet again, Dan and Ray are the podcast hosts, but Ray’s AI digital twin introduces the episode! This week's guests are: Lee Barrett – Prompt Engineer and AI Advocate at CEnet. Prem Radhakrishnan – AI Technical Manager at CEnet. This episode is a two-level deep dive into the development and deployment of CEchat, an AI-powered chatbot designed to red…
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Encore: Kevin Gillespie and the Restaurant of a Lifetime
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54:37There's a good chance you know chef and author Kevin Gillespie from his fan-favorite stint on Season 6 of Top Chef or his return on the All Stars Season 20, but the Georgia native's talent can't be reduced to the small screen. His new Atlanta restaurant, Nàdair, is a full-throated love letter to his Scottish heritage — something Gillespie's family …
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News & Research: The Global Shift from Policy to Practice
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45:51News Stories Covered in the Episode AI Typing Like a Human? – Graham Clay’s LinkedIn post on ChatGPT Operator mimicking human keystrokes https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7292163775963557888/ The Vatican on AI Ethics – “Antiqua et Nova” report on AI, human intelligence, and ethics in education Sacerdotus: Vatican's New Document o…
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Encore: Kylie Kwong and the Five Glass Ghosts
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56:26When chef Kylie Kwong announced that she was going to be shuttering her destination dining spot Lucky Kwong to take on a new role at the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, working at the intersection of food, community, and education to honor the people and foods that have made Australian cuisine so distinctive and precious — it made sense. Kwong has alw…
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78,000 Students, One Bold AI Ambition- Leigh Williams
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51:16In this episode of AI in Education, Dan and Ray sit down with Leigh Williams, CIO of Brisbane Catholic Education, to dive into one of the most ambitious AI rollouts in Australian schools. With 78,000 students and 13,000 staff, Leigh and her team implemented Microsoft Copilot at scale—reducing teacher workloads by 9+ hours per week and even boosting…
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Ep. 130 - Chur Da Boys: The Rise of Just 2 Māori & See-Niz + Their Dream to Play One Love!
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42:02This week get ready for an epic conversation with Chur Da Boys—the dynamic duo of See-Niz and Just 2 Māori—who are making waves in the New Zealand music scene!I sit down with these talented artists to talk about their journey, their passion for music, and their mission to bring Māori culture to the global stage. In this episode, we dive deep into:🎤…
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Education in an AI age - Graham Brown-Martin
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51:08Dan and Ray welcome Graham Brown Martin, a seasoned expert in education technology, for a very(!) thought-provoking conversation about navigating education in the rapidly evolving age of artificial intelligence. In this episode: Discover Graham's journey through multiple technological revolutions—from early mainframes and pioneering laser-disc tech…
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Ep. 129 - Jimi Hunt - The CRAZIEST Mental Health Challenges! Jimi's Wild Journey to Happiness
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54:02This week get ready to explore the power of mental health, resilience, and unconventional thinking with Jimi Hunt, a leading advocate for mental well-being and the founder of Live More Awesome.I sit down with Jimi, who has dedicated his life to reshaping how we think about mental health, breaking stigmas, and challenging the traditional approach to…
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From Butterflies to Bias: Dr. Nici Sweaney on Building Responsible AI in Schools
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43:22In this episode Dan and Ray sit down with Dr. Nici (Nikki) Sweaney—founder of “AI Her Way,” gender equality advocate, and globally recognized AI consultant. After a fascinating career journey from butterfly ecology to statistics to AI, Nici now helps schools and organizations create ethical, responsible, and effective AI strategies. She shares her …
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Ep. 128 - Justin Flitter - Will AI Take Your Job? How AI Will Change Business FOREVER!
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36:23This week, I’m diving deep into the future of AI in New Zealand with Justin Flitter, the founder of NewZealand.AI and a leading voice in the AI revolution.Justin has spent years at the forefront of AI innovation, automation, and business transformation, helping companies harness AI to scale smarter, not harder. In this episode, we tackle the bigges…
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Faculty Perspectives on AI with Digital Education Council's Danny Bielik
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30:45In this episode, Ray and Dan are joined by Danny Bielik, President of the Digital Education Council, to discuss the findings of a global AI faculty survey. With insights from 52 institutions across 28 countries, Danny shares how higher education faculty are adopting AI, the biggest concerns around academic integrity and assessment, and why AI liter…
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Book Club Podcast? Before we even got to the News and Research, this week we discussed the AI-related books we're currently reading: Dan's reading: Where Good Ideas Come From, by Steven Johnson (TED Talk) Why Data Science Projects Fail, by Douglas Gray and Evan Shellshear (An interview with Evan) Ray's reading The Atlas of AI: Power, Politics, and …
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AI Excellence: A Conversation with Katie Ford
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38:30This week we get to catch up with Katie Ford of Microsoft Australia, who tells us about the projects that have been happening in AI in Education around Australia, and shares some of the lessons learnt from the projects as well as what she is learning through her own research focus. The examples Katie discusses are: Tasmania Department of Education:…
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Reflecting on 2024 and Predicting the Year Ahead
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31:41And we're back! After a relaxing summer holiday Down Under (the school year finishes late December and doesn't restart until after the end of January in Australia) we've made it back to the studio to talk again. In this first episode of the 2025 'AI in Education' podcast, hosts Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming reflect on the major events and developments …
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We look back on the highlights of 2024, and the mass of stories, challenges and inspirations we had throughout the year. And what a year - AI in education has been moving so fast we even invited two digital AI podcasters to take over half the episode. And, worryingly, they did an amazing job - listen for yourself... We're going to take a break over…
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A heap of news stories this week means we didn't cover any research at all! AI isn’t a tool, it’s an environment by Josh Thorpe https://wonkhe.com/blogs/ai-isnt-a-tool-its-an-environment/ Australian Senate report into Adoption of AI https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Adopting_Artificial_Intelligence_AI/AdoptingAI/Report…
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This week's episode discussed the new AI toolkit for generative AI strategies from Australia's Higher Education regulator, TEQSA The full toolkit is available here: https://www.teqsa.gov.au/guides-resources/resources/corporate-publications/gen-ai-strategies-australian-higher-education-emerging-practice During the episode we referenced some of the p…
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Everybody or Nobody is using AI - News and Research
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36:03Everybody or Nobody is using AI - News and ResearchSeries 10, Episode 8 We explore quite a lot of news related to AI in Education that arrived this week, which meant we didn't get to cover nearly as many academic research papers as we'd hoped. Oh well, there's still 4 episodes left this year to catch up 😊 News Open AI released a course for teachers…
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AI - Study Buddy or Influencer? with Miriam Scott
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30:36This week's episode is a discussion of the Australian Parliamentary report on AI in Education, "Studdy Buddy or Influencer?". The report highlights both the opportunities and challenges GenAI presents, focusing on student and teacher perspectives, ethical considerations, regulatory approaches, and potential solutions. The report makes many recommen…
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With her shows Pati's Mexican Table and La Frontera and cookbooks Treasures of the Mexican Table and Mexican Today, Pati Jinich uses her exceptional empathy, political science background, and fearless curiosity to share the stories of the people living, creating, and cooking all around Mexico, and celebrate our shared humanity. For the Season 2 fin…
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Deception and Deepfakes - News & Research
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24:26Another News & Research episode this week, and lots of interesting links and research discussed. Here's the weblinks for everything! News Deception and Deepfakes - How genAI is Changing Cyber Safety Course: https://spsc.thinkific.com/courses/take/deceptionanddeepfakes/ Leon Furzes online course, where he made a free course about deepfakes hosted by…
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You may know Joel McHale from his star turns on beloved shows like Community, The Soup, or Animal Control, his standup special Live From Pyongyang, or as host of House of Villains and Crime Scene Kitchen. Chefs know him from their nightmares — or rather as the menacing chef David Fields on The Bear. He's also a very talented cook, especially in the…
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In September, the Toddle team organised "AI for AussieEd", a week-long series of professional development sessions for teachers, which had thousands of attendees for the virtual sessions. This episode "Driving Innovation in Australian Schools" was part of the week, and brings you the experiences of three educators, in conversation with podcast host…
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“Bitchy Waiter" Darron Cardosa and the Tipping Conundrum
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50:39Since 2008, actor and writer Darron Cardosa has been setting the internet ablaze with his pioneering blog "The Bitchy Waiter" — which he has since spun into a rollicking book and stage show of the same name. Darron is also one of Food & Wine's most prolific and popular writers, and in this inspiring and emotional conversation, he shares his feeling…
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This week's episode has a lot more news than research. But the research that we spend a bit of time on is the insights on how students in Australian universities are using AI. Really good insights for any educator or leader! News AI Detectors Falsely Accuse Students of Cheating—With Big Consequences https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-10-1…
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Bobby Flay and the Review That Made His Career
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49:14Bobby Flay has been a fixture on Food Network since the beginning, written 18 cookbooks, and is pretty much a household name. But the thing that gets lost in the sauce is that he's a James Beard Award-winning restaurant chef who changed the restaurant scene in some bold and groundbreaking ways. He joined Tinfoil Swans to talk about his new book Cha…
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Series 10, Episode 3 This week's episode is an interview with Dr Anna Denejkina, who's an interdisciplinary researcher and Associate Director at The Insight Centre. We discuss her research on youth engagement with generative AI. The conversation explores the multifaceted impact of AI technology in education, addressing benefits such as upskilling a…
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When Tom Holland's parents enrolled him in dance classes as a kid, no one could have dreamed he'd end up as an international superstar, internet icon, and entrepreneur — and he still has to pinch himself to believe it. The Spider-Man actor joined Tinfoil Swans to talk about some horrible lamb shanks he'd cooked, his favorite pizza place, getting so…
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AI Research - Apostles, Agnostics and Atheists
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31:58This week we cover a range of AI in Education related news and academic research papers. Here's all the links you need to read more about each of the topics we dicussed: News Australia's Voluntary AI Safety Standard In September the Australian Government published: Voluntary AI Safety Standard (68pg): https://www.industry.gov.au/publications/volunt…
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Dolly Parton, Rachel Parton George, and the Dumplings That Could Save the World
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45:20Dolly Parton is an American icon for all the right reasons. She's always been unabashedly herself, employing that authenticity, work ethic, humor, talent, and grace to make enduring art — and use her hard-earned platform and cash to support causes dear to her heart. She and her sister, Rachel Parton George, recently co-authored the cookbook Good Lo…
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Welcome to the first Episode of Series 10, where we are going to take some time to review some of the fundamental changes we're going to be seeing as AI becomes more pervasive. In this Episode we're taking a different approach, with Dan and Ray using Google's NotebookLM to create AI-delivered mini-podcasts about each other, which leads to a discuss…
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Yotam Ottolenghi and the Story of Comfort
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46:16Chef and author Yotam Ottolenghi is internationally beloved for his joyful and accessible approach to fresh ingredients in his restaurants, and also in his recipes for home cooks. The self-described "greedy little boy" from Jerusalem shares how he found his way out of academia and into kitchens; the ways he's trying not to be a nervous parent; and …
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South Australia's EdChat - One Giant leap for AI in Australia
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40:00This week we're joined by the brains behind South Australia's EdChat chatbot. It was the first state in Australia to start pilot a custom built generative AI chatbot for their schools, and we spent some time with the team to understand the success story. In the podcast, we heard from Simon Chapman (Director of Digital Architecture and Operations) a…
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When chef Kylie Kwong announced that she was going to be shuttering her destination dining spot Lucky Kwong to take on a new role at the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, working at the intersection of food, community, and education to honor the people and foods that have made Australian cuisine so distinctive and precious — it made sense. Kwong has alw…
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Unbelievably, it's our 5th Anniversary (AI-nniversary?) and to mark the milestone of an AI podcast that's had more pivots than a robot's legs, and more chat than a chatbot, we've pulled together some of the top episodes from the 108 episodes of the podcast so far, and got the band back together (regretfully, we were unable to persuade Beth Worral, …
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Your Korean Dad Nick Cho and the Banana Peel on the Floor
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1:01:30Nick Cho is beloved by millions for his empathetic and affirming "Your Korean Dad" videos on TikTok and Instagram, but the real-life coffee expert and entrepreneur is so much more than the character he plays online. Cho joined Tinfoil Swans for a robust conversation on growing up in a place you're not wanted, the fallacy of "good" people vs "bad" p…
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More Comp Sci research! News and Research - Episode 10 of Series 9
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32:59News This week's news we rushed through includes "Study Buddy or Influencer?", the Australian Parliamentary Inquiry into the use of Gen AI in the Australia Education System https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/House/Employment_Education_and_Training/AIineducation/Report NSW EduChat has been extended for all teachers in all New S…
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Christine D'Ercole and the Bing Cherry Revelation
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41:08Christine D'Ercole is a legendary competitive cyclist, compelling public speaker, and fan-favorite Peloton instructor. That's in part because of her intense and often New Wave and Goth-playlisted classes, but also because she loves to cook and savor incredible meals, and share frank talk about complicated emotions around bodies and aging and exerci…
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