Fraser & Nabeel explore what it means to build great products in this new world of AI. Two former founders, now VCs, have an off-the-cuff conversation with friends about the new AI products that are worth trying, emerging patterns, and how founders are navigating a world that’s changing every week. Fraser is the former Head of Product at OpenAI, where he managed the teams that shipped ChatGPT and DALL-E, and is now an investor at Spark Capital. Nabeel is a former founder and CEO, now an inve ...
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What in God’s name is happening in Spain? Simon Hunter, editor of the English Edition of Spanish newspaper EL PAÍS, tries to explain it all to his beloved English-speaking audience
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Nabeel and Fraser debrief on GDC and the opportunities for innovation beyond the conservative approaches in an industry going through a funk. They touch on the experiences at the recent GDC, including the growth of AI in gaming and the recurring challenges faced by developers. The discussion also covers the competitive landscape of AI startups, the…
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We have evals for AI models, what about AI products? Today, Nabeel and Fraser talk about building computer games through vibe coding, and just when we might see a breakout success of an AI-built game. Through this discussion, they also explore what building a platform that curates weird AI experiments might look like, particularly one that builders…
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Questions we’re asking of AI startups in 2025.
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52:08Today, Nabeel and Fraser tackle the questions they've been asking internally. What level of improvement would it take to disrupt an incumbent product? They also explore what advantages second movers have in product markets, the emerging importance of reasoning models and computer use products, and what makes certain legacy markets ripe for AI reinv…
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Granola & The Art of Invisible AI - Christopher Pedregal
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1:06:30Nabeel and Fraser sit down for a round-table discussion with Chris Pedregal, founder and CEO of Granola, an AI note taking app, to discuss Granola’s evolution and product philosophy. Their conversation touches on the challenges of developing user-friendly AI products, and how to balance that with product vision. They also talk about what it’s like …
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What lessons will we take from 2024's AI products into next year? How better to reflect on advancements in the field of AI over this past year than to ask AI itself? Today, Fraser and Nabeel use AI models like ChatGPT, Claude, and o1 to first look back and see if products and innovations of 2023 lived up to their hype in 2024. And to look at the sh…
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Coaching Up: Should your AI be teaching you how to use it?
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41:31Everywhere you turn, companies have shoved AI features into their products that no one is using. Today, Fraser and Nabeel ask each other—are there any AI features that you’re actually using in older products? Plus: How kids will be shaped using AI products daily. What would a fully unstructured Slack look like. AI email habits. Do we think incumben…
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Q&A: Is NotebookLM an exception to a rule? When to copy? When are small improvements better than big bets? Will data privacy matter?
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41:33Open format Q&A this week. Fraser and Nabeel explore AI data privacy, the ethics of copying features, and maintaining innovation. They discuss enterprise data challenges, the importance of a strong product identity, and strategies for early-stage startups during fundraising season. (00:00) - Open (00:53) - Q&A Session Kickoff (01:14) - The data you…
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"Software should be soft" - Meter Command with Anil Varanasi
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58:22Join Fraser, Nabeel, and special guest Anil from Meter as they dive into the innovation behind Meter Command. Meter's new interface has been called the "future of software" and a far ranging interview talks about the problem of designing product around personas, how command interfaces bridge the gap between CLI and dashboards, the importance of own…
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How would you design an AI product differently for a hobbyist vs prosumer vs professional? Using MidJourney as a case study in the passion economy, they delve into how AI tools can help build communities and support semi-professional creators. They explore how these tools can democratize creativity, the role of art vs craft, the role of grit in ski…
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Making product on the S curve of AI. Plus, Anthropic Artifacts
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42:28Fraser and Nabeel start by retcon'ing their earlier "maybe we should stop talking about models" and reflecting on the importance of adapting product strategy based how much disruption is happening in your market. The episode highlights the release of Claude Artifacts by Anthropic, and comparing it to other AI product innovations. They also nerd out…
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Granola, Designing AI for User Agency, and how to compete with $$$
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45:19Fraser and Nabeel dive into the evolving landscape of AI note-taking apps, focusing on a new product, Granola. They discuss Granola's unique approach of "enhancing your thought" instead of "thinking for you." They also explore: applying this idea to other categories, the influence of LLMs on UX, and the need for more experimental user workflows to …
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Is it still worth it to discuss models when discussing startups? Nabeel and Fraser discuss how that may be the wrong question to ask in the current landscape, and why customer-centric questions and user experience should be the basis of product experience. Later, they deliberate who might come out on top in the “horse race” for AI product dominance…
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Devin & the Autonomous Engineer Wave. Plus, .Com lessons as a model for today
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39:32What is the extent of autonomous coding engineer Devin’s ability to generate real, functional applications with little to no help? Nabeel and Fraser dive into the buzz about Cognition’s ‘Devin’, what makes it different, and the transformative potential of AI in software engineering, particularly focusing on autonomous coding software. Later, they g…
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AI Models. Weighing the chances of commodity vs differentiation.
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37:43This week is a discussion of the points of differentiation vs commodification in various AI models. Including how these points might change over time, and might change between language, image, and video models. Then Fraser pivots to orienting around jobs to be done in AI, and how the various models have a huge gap between being capable of doing som…
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What is Hallway Chat anyway (00:00) - Introduction and Podcast NamingBy Fraser Kelton & Nabeel Hyatt
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Making of Arc Search, and finding your AI product strategy with Josh Miller
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48:49Josh Miller, Founder and CEO of The Browser Co, joins this week. We loved the experience with Arc Search, a new AI-enabled mobile search experience, we decided to talk to Josh directly about how it all came together. Topics * How Arc Search came to be spawned out of basically a side project * The core value of "we don't know" * How the key AI featu…
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Stages of Disruption: Adaptation, Evolution, or Revolution? Plus Email AI app Shortwave
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47:48Two former founders, now VCs, play with AI products and see where that leads... Fraser and Nabeel discuss the differences between horizontal disruption and vertical market disruption and the patterns of the phases of this disruption in the mobile age. From Adaptation, to Evolution, and eventually Revolution. Next, they dive into AI email app Shortw…
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Best of the Voice Note Apps, Three Layers of AI Coding & A Wishlist of Products
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43:32Reviewing voice note transcription apps, from WaveAI to Audiopen and ChatGPT. Then Fraser and Nabeel take stock of various ways AI coding is affecting software development, from Co-Pilots to "mealeable software development" and No-Code AI. Lastly, the hosts talk through a wish list of products they'd love to see this year. Topics: - Slowed Pace of …
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Developments in Prompting, Making Sense of AI Hardware Gadgetpalooza & trying SunoAI music creation
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1:00:30Fraser and Nabeel discuss the onslaught of AI hardware launches, exploring the potential factors behind this shift. They also discuss the importance of designing not by listening to your customer but by understanding the customer. The duo also discuss the importance and challenges surrounding 'prompt engineering' vs prompt writing, using BARD, Suno…
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Building entropically, Gemini, Prompt engineerings revenge, and Superpowered
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1:01:15Nabeel and Fraser briefly discuss Google's new AI model, Gemini, and keeping authenticity in startup pitches. They discuss the perils of trying to simplify when technology is lending towards complexity. How to stay authentic to yourself when pitching and fundraising. The new findings of Claude prompting, and the likely continued need for prompt eng…
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Nabeel gets to ask Fraser for reflections on the development of ChatGPT on the one-year anniversary. They talk about the intersection of product managers and AI researchers, how ChatGPT came to be on the roadmap, how the team came to be formed, and the difference between polish & overengineering. They then discuss the recent explosion of real-time …
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Three patterns of LLM product development
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34:11The conversation kicks off with the surprising news of Sam Altman’s departure from OpenAI. Nabeel and Fraser then discuss the ‘crazy week’ of product releases, demystifying the complexity and impact of AI in various workflows. They spotlight AI startup Lindy, review My GPTS, and early impressions of the product Dot, an AI-driven guide in daily life…
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My GPTs, and avoiding the OpenAI tidal wave as a founder
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31:22In this conversation, discussions revolve around the recent OpenAI Dev Day, the Reflect note taking app, and how founders should internalize the "threat" and partnership opportunities with OpenAI. Fraser & Nabeel discuss that it's still "fart app and flashlight" early days for developers to truly utilize the capabilities of technologies like ChatGP…
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When do AI startups have advantage over incumbents?
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43:56Fraser & Nabeel get things up and running again at Hallway Chat. How AI is changing search engines, comparing Perplexity with Google, and what just goes to ChatGPT & Claude. "Shipping your org chat". Debating Sam Lessin's recent "State of Venture Capital" and whether AI in startups is just magical thinking. The app of the week: Snipd, an AI podcast…
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Season 5 of the ¿Qué? podcast is coming to an end a little earlier than we expected. Thanks to you all for listening and we'll be back in September!By EL PAÍS
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S05E08: New spike in coronavirus infections and the fallout from Cuba protests
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34:14This week, we discuss the ongoing rise in Covid-19 cases, in particular among young people, and we also examine how protests by Cuban citizens have been putting the central government in a tight spotBy EL PAÍS
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S05E07: Delta strain in Spain and the debate over bilingual education programs
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40:13This week on our Spanish news podcast, we discuss the rise of the delta coronavirus strain in Spain, the spike in infections among young people and what regions are doing to curb contagions.By EL PAÍS
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S05E06: Coronavirus update and interview with Bremain in Spain chair
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45:37This week, we discuss the spread of the delta variant and the progress of the Covid-19 vaccination drive, and speak to the MBE recipient, Sue Wilson, about the work her organization does to protect the rights of UK citizens living in the country.By EL PAÍS
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S05E05: A tragedy in Tenerife and Sánchez's hallway chat with Biden
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34:29This week on our Spanish news podcast, we look at the tragic case of Anna and Olivia, two little girls who are thought to have been murdered by their father in Spain’s Canary Islands, and discuss the broader problem of gender violence in Spain. We also explain how an announced “bilateral meeting” between Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez and US …
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S05E04: How Spain’s autonomous regions have handled the pandemic
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37:58We discuss how complicated the coronavirus crisis has been in the country due to the powers of the regional governmentsBy EL PAÍS
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S05E03: Spain's Covid vaccine campaign, and Brexit advice for Britons
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35:46This week we take a look at Spain's ongoing Covid-19 vaccine campaign, and also consider some of the changing rules and regulations for UK nationals traveling to or living in the countryBy EL PAÍS
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S05E02: Travel after Brexit and Catalan politics
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37:30This week we discuss the changes to the coronavirus restrictions on travelers from the UK, and look at the new Catalan government, which has made securing clemency for the jailed leaders of the 2017 breakaway bid a priorityBy EL PAÍS
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After a one-year hiatus due to the pandemic, Simon Hunter and Melissa Kitson are back with a brand new seriesBy EL PAÍS
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