In this episode, fractional CISO and AI governance expert Rock Lambros joins Glen to break down why traditional AI governance is officially dead and what organizations must do before they get burned. From real world LLM mishaps like production databases being wiped, to the rise of agentic AI capable of taking real world actions, Rock explains how the risks are evolving faster than most companies can keep up.

They also dig into how data governance has become a mandatory foundation for AI adoption, why prompt injection remains the “new SQL injection,” and how over reliance on AI is already causing harm in healthcare, mental health, and critical decision making. Rock also shares how token costs can spiral out of control, what to know about MCP plugins, and why the EU AI Act is becoming the global gold standard for regulation.

Whether you’re building AI products, overseeing cybersecurity and data programs, or simply trying to understand where AI governance is headed, this conversation reveals the immediate risks and the long-term responsibilities that every organization needs to prepare for.