This week, Patti and Meghan are swapping their bras for boundaries and their tight pants for soft ones as they dive deep into the art of pivoting—in business, in motherhood, and in life.

They get real about what happens when the version of you from your twenties can't carry you through your forties, the pressure to "do it all," and how growth sometimes looks like fewer friends, less hustle, and more naps.

With stories about bruised glutes, soft pants, and surprise career twists, this one's equal parts funny and freeing.

• How to know when it's time to pivot (and why it's not "giving up")

• Why women hit 40 and suddenly stop caring about matching Tupperware

• "Weeding the garden": the power of unfollowing and un-friending for peace

• When your business or career takes an unexpected turn (and how to roll with it)

• Why it's sexy to have boundaries, not abs

• The joy of soft pants, small circles, and saying "no" with love

• How to honour who you've become without apologizing for it

Grab your coffee (or your tequila) and settle in. Because this one's all about giving yourself permission to pivot—no bras required.

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