From UN internships to HubSpot’s IPO to running a modern events + content agency.
Nick Sal unpacks how he shifted from politics to social entrepreneurship, became an early HubSpot Academy leader, helped scale through INBOUND and partner ecosystems, and now builds high-impact webinars, field events, and customer storytelling programs.

We cover sales math (why “1 in 6” closes), offers that convert (audits and graders), culture at scale, and how AI accelerates B2B marketing without losing the human spark.

You’ll learn
→ How to productize “assessments” to turn interest into pipeline
→ What changed inside HubSpot from ~300 to 1,300 employees and IPO
→ The partnership motion: software + services “better together”
→ Sales tactics that shorten time to yes
→ Practical AI stack for decks, prompts, agents, and post-event content

Guest: Nick Sal, founder of Next Level Inbound; former HubSpot Academy leader
Host: Keaton Olson

• Website: https://nextlevelnbound.com

• YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@visiontovibe-nsi

• All Links: https://linktr.ee/nicksal

• Gamma (AI deck builder): https://gamma.app

• MetaPrompt (Dharmesh Shah’s prompt optimizer): https://github.com/dharmesh/metaprompt

• Agent.ai (AI agent builder by Dharmesh Shah): https://agent.ai

• Riverside (remote recording studio): https://riverside.fm

• HubSpot Academy: https://academy.hubspot.com

• INBOUND Conference: https://www.inbound.com

• Website Grader: https://website.grader.com

• Drift / Salesloft Lineage: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keatonolson/

00:00 – Intro
00:30 – Nick’s path: PR intern → HubSpot Academy
01:19 – UN and State Assembly internships → entrepreneurship
03:30 – Discovering HubSpot and “idea whose time has come”
05:15 – Inside early HubSpot and Academy’s one-to-many model
06:22 – Paramify and HubSpot use
07:24 – What it felt like at ~300 employees
10:01 – Keaton’s Paramify startup story
11:38 – Why in-person years still matter in a remote world
15:14 – Scaling to ~1,300 and the IPO mechanics
18:01 – Negative churn, rebuilds & culture as a product
20:54 – Culture durability and founders’ role
24:42 – Going solo: skills, sales resilience & law of large numbers
29:41 – Content as sales ammo and social proof
34:13 – Sales math: why “1 in 6” closes & how to get to six
35:53 – Offers that convert: graders, audits & assessments
39:53 – Closing tactics: ask directly, bring in SMEs, start small
42:45 – Low-risk paid diagnostics to kick off
45:27 – How AI changed B2B marketing workflows
49:16 – Templates, research, invites & event ops with AI
55:00 – “Underground” tools: Gamma, MetaPrompt, Agents
1:01:16 – Agent.ai & HubSpot’s free-tool playbook
1:01:33 – Staying future-proof in the age of AI
1:07:49 – Wrap and where to find Nick