The Daves reunite to explore 1978, the year that gave us GPS satellites, legal home brewing, Bill Clinton's Arkansas governorship, and the cultural peak of disco—even as punk and new wave were exploding across the Atlantic.

Dave (8 years old in '78) and David (10 years old) share personal memories: David's father mocking his disco fashion dreams, Dave surviving Michigan's legendary blizzard and witnessing fish flopping in flooded streets, and the recruitment of a certain 6'8" Lansing point guard who would become Magic Johnson.

The conversation ranges from box office hits (Grease, Animal House, Superman) to influential films they were too young to see (The Deer Hunter, Days of Heaven), from the Bee Gees' chart domination to the arrival of Blondie, Devo, and Elvis Costello's "This Year's Model."

But what makes this episode special is how these two former Clinton White House staffers turn pop culture nostalgia into genuine reflection on creativity and taste. Why do smart people disagree about art? Can AI ever explain our subjective responses? And what's the deal with Elvis Costello anyway?

Plus: Dave's story of ditching White House work to see a cinematography documentary, his one joint in Iceland, and kissing Victoria Abril at a wrap party with Sigur Rós. David shares groundhog facts from Punxsutawney urinal research. And they both geek out over the perfect origin story of "Midnight Train to Georgia"—involving a wrong number, Farrah Fawcett, and a former Ole Miss quarterback.

For fans of: nostalgic deep dives, pop culture debates, and podcasts that accidentally become thoughtful while trying to be funny.