In this episode of The Edge of Reckoning, Sue and Neil explore the quiet, disorienting space between who we were and who we’re becoming, the liminal space after a rupture, when old identities have fallen away but new ones haven’t yet formed.

Grief that isn’t just about loss, but about the unraveling of identity. Neil shares how losing his hearing challenged his lifelong self-concept as a musician, while Sue reflects on navigating heartbreak, solitude, and rediscovering meaning. Together they unpack how the ego clings to old stories, how pain transforms into suffering when replayed, and how awareness can help us find peace amid uncertainty.

Through honest conversation, humor, and real-life examples, they invite listeners to see cocooning not as being “stuck,” but as a sacred pause, a necessary phase of transformation before rebirth.