In this episode of Iran Watch Listen, Wisconsin Project Executive Director Valerie Lincy and Senior Research Associate John Caves sat down with John Lauder, a Wisconsin Project Senior Fellow with more than three decades of experience in the U.S. intelligence community, to think through the new realities after the bombing of Iran’s nuclear program and the return of U.N. sanctions. What might come next? The conversation took place on September 18.

Related Resources

John Caves, Valerie Lincy, and Gary Milhollin, “Hidden Among the Rubble: Iran’s Post-Strike Weapon Potential,” Iran Watch, August 26, 2025.

“Table of Iranian Nuclear Sites and Related Facilities,” Iran Watch, July 24, 2025.

Valerie Lincy, “Nuclear Strikes on Iran: What We Don’t Know,” Iran Watch, June 24, 2025.

“Iran Watch Special Newsletter: Israel Strikes Iranian Nuclear Sites,” Iran Watch, June 13, 2025.

John Caves, John Krzyzaniak, Valerie Lincy, “Trigger Warning: The Consequences of Snapping Back Sanctions on Iran,” Iran Watch, January 31, 2023.

Austin Bodetti and John Caves, “Stuck in the Past: The U.N.’s 2231 List,” Iran Watch, January 31, 2022.

Leon Aron, “The Iran-China-Russia Axis Crumbles When It Matters,” The Atlantic, June 29, 2025.

Anna Borshchevskaya, "The Big Mistake the West Is Making About Russia, China, and Iran," National Security Journal, July 30, 2025.

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Intro/Outro music by AudioCoffee (Denys Kyshchuk): https://www.audiocoffee.net.