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From Discovery to Deduction: Modern Theft Loss Rules Explained

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Jeremy explores the complex world of theft loss deductions, examining how digital asset scams have renewed interest in these tax provisions under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. The episode breaks down the three key criteria for claiming theft losses, explains why timing of discovery matters more than when the theft occurred, and analyzes five modern scam scenarios from IRS Chief Counsel guidance including pig butchering schemes and romance scams. Jeremy concludes with a fascinating 1984 court case involving Civil War veterans' land rights that shows even tax court judges can disagree on fundamental questions of tax law.

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  • (00:00) - Introduction: Digital assets spark new interest in theft losses
  • (03:00) - The three types of losses under IRC Section 165
  • (08:00) - Three criteria for claiming a theft loss deduction
  • (13:00) - When discovery matters more than when theft occurred
  • (19:00) - State law defines theft for federal tax purposes
  • (25:35) - Simple disappearance is not theft
  • (28:35) - Casualty losses vs theft losses: Key differences
  • (30:35) - Stock declines don't qualify as theft losses
  • (34:35) - Ponzi schemes get special safe harbor treatment
  • (42:35) - Five modern scam scenarios from IRS Chief Counsel
  • (54:35) - Reporting theft losses on Form 4684
  • (57:35) - The Booth case: When smart judges disagree
  • (01:03:35) - Wrap-up and final thoughts

Connect with Jeremy
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https://www.steadfastbookkeeping.com

Subscribe on YouTube
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Content provided by Earmark Media, Jeremy Wells, EA, and CPA. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Earmark Media, Jeremy Wells, EA, and CPA or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Jeremy explores the complex world of theft loss deductions, examining how digital asset scams have renewed interest in these tax provisions under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. The episode breaks down the three key criteria for claiming theft losses, explains why timing of discovery matters more than when the theft occurred, and analyzes five modern scam scenarios from IRS Chief Counsel guidance including pig butchering schemes and romance scams. Jeremy concludes with a fascinating 1984 court case involving Civil War veterans' land rights that shows even tax court judges can disagree on fundamental questions of tax law.

Sponsors
SafeSend - taxshow.promo/safesend


  • (00:00) - Introduction: Digital assets spark new interest in theft losses
  • (03:00) - The three types of losses under IRC Section 165
  • (08:00) - Three criteria for claiming a theft loss deduction
  • (13:00) - When discovery matters more than when theft occurred
  • (19:00) - State law defines theft for federal tax purposes
  • (25:35) - Simple disappearance is not theft
  • (28:35) - Casualty losses vs theft losses: Key differences
  • (30:35) - Stock declines don't qualify as theft losses
  • (34:35) - Ponzi schemes get special safe harbor treatment
  • (42:35) - Five modern scam scenarios from IRS Chief Counsel
  • (54:35) - Reporting theft losses on Form 4684
  • (57:35) - The Booth case: When smart judges disagree
  • (01:03:35) - Wrap-up and final thoughts

Connect with Jeremy
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jwellstax
https://www.steadfastbookkeeping.com

Subscribe on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/@TaxinAction

Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcast
https://www.earmark.app/

This podcast is a production of the Earmark Media

  continue reading

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