In this dog training podcast episode, Em and Annie Grossman share why positive reinforcement and science—not dominance—create lasting results.

What if we could combine heart and behavioral science to train dogs—without relying on dominance or intimidation?

In this inspiring conversation, Em sits down with Annie Grossman, founder of School for the Dogs and author of How to Train Your Dog with Love + Science, to talk about building connection through positive reinforcement and how our differing yet aligned methods shape learning in both canines and humans.

💡 In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why Annie’s book advocates for "good training" above all—a science-based, humane approach that avoids punishment-based tools• How clicker training acts as a precise marker, bridging behaviors to rewards faster than traditional cues• Where our philosophies align—and where our styles diverge—especially in matching methods to the needs, emotions, and learning styles of each dog• Practical tips to make training joyful, effective, and rooted in science

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