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What makes a workplace culture truly effective? According to organizational change expert Laurie Clarke, it's found at the critical intersection of talent and design—where people and systems align to create meaningful impact. Join John and Greg as they interview Laurie on her insights of management as a consult for executive leaders.
Clarke brings powerful insights from her two decades working with global CEOs, revealing that supervisors and managers are the essential "glue" holding organizations together. These middle-level leaders face unique challenges, caught between executive directives and frontline realities that often seem misaligned. Her solution is refreshingly straightforward: people fundamentally want to make progress on meaningful work.
Throughout the conversation, Clarke shares transformative examples—like the disengaged call center employee who viewed his job as "just people wanting money" until he understood he was helping fulfill educational dreams and potentially changing life trajectories. This shift in perspective doesn't require additional resources, just clearer connections between daily tasks and meaningful outcomes.
The pandemic-driven remote work revolution forms another fascinating thread in the discussion. Clarke explains how remote work exposed weaknesses in organizational cultures that already existed, creating a "quilt" of individual home environments versus the consistent "corporate blanket" of office culture. While productivity metrics often improved during remote work, innovation declined—highlighting the irreplaceable value of spontaneous in-person collaboration.
Perhaps most valuable are Clarke's practical approaches to cross-training and flexibility. By allowing employees to experience different roles, organizations build versatility while helping people understand their impact across the system. For executives and managers implementing these ideas, she recommends embracing uncertainty—the most effective leaders acknowledge what they don't know, articulate desired outcomes clearly, and give teams autonomy to develop solutions.
Looking to transform your team's culture or navigate organizational change? Connect with Laurie Clarke on LinkedIn or at [email protected] for executive coaching, team development, and strategic consulting that builds capability from within.

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Presented by John Wandolowski and Greg Powell