In which comedian Al Murray and historian James Holland talk about their new book Victory ’45 and our twin national obsessions, the Second World War and The Beatles. Includes:

….how being emotionally shut down enabled Montgomery to collect the surrender at Luneburg Heath

….how a profound sense of duty helped Harry Truman make the most dreadful decisions anyone has ever faced

…how German soldiers could keep on invoicing right until the end

…what all this has to tell us about our present predicament

…why thousands of blokes in camo (and a surprising amount of women) attend their We Have Ways Fest every summer: https://wehavewaysfest.co.uk/

….what it is that continues to fascinate us about World War II.

….how its story is being told in new ways

…how they both came to The Beatles

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