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How to Deliver Quality Software Against All Odds • Daniel Terhorst-North & Julian Wood

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Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates
Julian Wood - Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS
RESOURCES
Daniel
https://bsky.app/profile/tastapod.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tastapod
https://github.com/tastapod
https://mastodon.social/@tastapod
http://dannorth.net/blog

Julian
https://bsky.app/profile/julianwood.com
https://twitter.com/julian_wood
http://www.wooditwork.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianrwood
https://s12d.com/goto
DESCRIPTION
Daniel Terhorst-North and Julian Wood share decades of experience to offer a nuanced view of programming, governance, and product delivery. By framing programming as a socio-technical activity, they emphasize the critical role of collaboration, feedback, and sustainable practices.
The conversation challenges traditional governance models, advocating for hypothesis-driven product management and continuous feedback mechanisms. Through humorous anecdotes and hard-won wisdom, Terhorst-North inspires people to look beyond technical expertise to the broader ecosystem of teams, culture, and organizational alignment. [...]
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Jez Humble & David Farley • Continuous Delivery
Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble & Gene Kim • Accelerate
Kim, Humble, Debois, Willis & Forsgren • The DevOps Handbook
Jez Humble, Joanne Molesky & Barry O'Reilly • Lean Enterprise
Heidi Helfand • Dynamic Reteaming
Heidi Helfand • How to Change Your Teams
Carl Larson & Frank M J LaFasto • Teamwork
Gene Kim & Steve Spear • Wiring the Winning Organization
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies

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Chapters

1. Intro (00:00:00)

2. 20y of GOTO: From agile beginnings to sustainable software (00:01:41)

3. Evolving TDD & BDD (00:11:34)

4. Bridging the gap: The case for domain language in code (00:18:05)

5. The Thoughtworks era: Innovation through necessity & collaboration (00:23:56)

6. DevOps, constraints & organizational flow (00:33:32)

7. Tips on product management & effective delivery (00:41:17)

8. Programming & socio-technical systems (00:47:25)

9. Outro (00:52:04)

215 episodes

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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.
https://gotopia.tech

Read the full transcription of this interview here

Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates
Julian Wood - Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS
RESOURCES
Daniel
https://bsky.app/profile/tastapod.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tastapod
https://github.com/tastapod
https://mastodon.social/@tastapod
http://dannorth.net/blog

Julian
https://bsky.app/profile/julianwood.com
https://twitter.com/julian_wood
http://www.wooditwork.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianrwood
https://s12d.com/goto
DESCRIPTION
Daniel Terhorst-North and Julian Wood share decades of experience to offer a nuanced view of programming, governance, and product delivery. By framing programming as a socio-technical activity, they emphasize the critical role of collaboration, feedback, and sustainable practices.
The conversation challenges traditional governance models, advocating for hypothesis-driven product management and continuous feedback mechanisms. Through humorous anecdotes and hard-won wisdom, Terhorst-North inspires people to look beyond technical expertise to the broader ecosystem of teams, culture, and organizational alignment. [...]
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Jez Humble & David Farley • Continuous Delivery
Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble & Gene Kim • Accelerate
Kim, Humble, Debois, Willis & Forsgren • The DevOps Handbook
Jez Humble, Joanne Molesky & Barry O'Reilly • Lean Enterprise
Heidi Helfand • Dynamic Reteaming
Heidi Helfand • How to Change Your Teams
Carl Larson & Frank M J LaFasto • Teamwork
Gene Kim & Steve Spear • Wiring the Winning Organization
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies

Bluesky
Twitter
Instagram
LinkedIn
Facebook
CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS
Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join

Looking for a unique learning experience?
Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech
SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Intro (00:00:00)

2. 20y of GOTO: From agile beginnings to sustainable software (00:01:41)

3. Evolving TDD & BDD (00:11:34)

4. Bridging the gap: The case for domain language in code (00:18:05)

5. The Thoughtworks era: Innovation through necessity & collaboration (00:23:56)

6. DevOps, constraints & organizational flow (00:33:32)

7. Tips on product management & effective delivery (00:41:17)

8. Programming & socio-technical systems (00:47:25)

9. Outro (00:52:04)

215 episodes

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