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When Harry Met Sally: Deep Thoughts About RomCom Misogyny, Fake Orgasms, and the Myth of High Maintenance Women

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“I’ll have what she’s having.”

On this week’s episode of Deep Thoughts, the Guy sisters revisit the iconic 1989 romcom When Harry Met Sally. Even though Meg Ryan’s Sally Albright offers a badass portrayal of a happy spinster who makes no apologies for wanting what she wants, a young Emily instead internalized the idea that being “high maintenance” was a sin that women must avoid at all costs. Though Nora Ephron's romcom does offer some important pushback against the confidently wrong pronouncements made by Billy Crystal’s Harry Burns, Crystal’s performance is so funny and charming that it’s very easy to overlook his misogyny. On the bright side, Sally provides an excellent demonstration of just how easy it is to fake an orgasm.

Throw on those headphones…because when you realize you want to spend the next hour listening to a podcast episode, you want the next hour to start as soon as possible!

Mentioned in this episode:
https://youtu.be/TuNcyWIUEf4?si=bh_bMe8hlA5eDq26
https://farragomagazine.com/article/farrago/on-the-everlasting-charm-of-when-harry-met-sally/
https://jwa.org/blog/five-most-feminist-moments-from-when-harry-met-sally
https://www.womaninrevolt.com/second-thoughts-harry-from-when-harry-met-sally/
https://www.vulture.com/2012/10/when-harry-met-sally-is-bad-for-ladies.html
https://www.movienight.ink/p/when-harry-met-sally

Our theme music is "Professor Umlaut" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Learn more about Tracie and Emily (including our other projects), join the Guy Girls' family, secure exclusiv

Podcasts only work one way. Let's change that! Our Patrons receive all kinds of perks, from early access to episodes to exclusive bonus content to discounts on merch to invitations to our monthly live calls. Deep thinking shouldn't be done alone! Come overthink with us and other listeners! Learn more and join at patreon.com/guygirls

We are the sister podcasters Tracie Guy-Decker and Emily Guy Birken, known to our extended family as the Guy Girls.

We're hella smart and completely unashamed of our overthinking prowess. We love 80s and 90s movies and tv, science fiction, comedy, and murder mysteries, good storytelling with lots of dramatic irony, analyzing film tropes with a side of feminism, and examining the pop culture of our Gen X childhood for gender dynamics, psychology, sociology, religious allegory, and whatever else we find.

We have super-serious day jobs. For the bona fides, visit our individual websites: tracieguydecker.com and emilyguybirken.com. For our work together, visit guygirlsmedia.com

We are on socials! Find us on Facebook at fb.com/dtasspodcast and on Insta at instagram.com/guygirlsmedia. You can also email us at guygirlsmedia at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you!

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Chapters

1. When Harry Met Sally (00:00:00)

2. Navigating Relationships and Breakups (00:15:22)

3. Building Friendship After Heartbreak (00:18:57)

4. Discovering Love and Feminism (00:26:50)

5. Examining Gender Dynamics in Relationships (00:41:49)

6. Challenging Heteronormativity in Film (00:47:03)

7. Exploring Gender Dynamics in Cinema (00:56:59)

8. Sally's Singlehood and Gender Dynamics (01:01:46)

127 episodes

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Send us a message! Include how to reach you if you want a response.

“I’ll have what she’s having.”

On this week’s episode of Deep Thoughts, the Guy sisters revisit the iconic 1989 romcom When Harry Met Sally. Even though Meg Ryan’s Sally Albright offers a badass portrayal of a happy spinster who makes no apologies for wanting what she wants, a young Emily instead internalized the idea that being “high maintenance” was a sin that women must avoid at all costs. Though Nora Ephron's romcom does offer some important pushback against the confidently wrong pronouncements made by Billy Crystal’s Harry Burns, Crystal’s performance is so funny and charming that it’s very easy to overlook his misogyny. On the bright side, Sally provides an excellent demonstration of just how easy it is to fake an orgasm.

Throw on those headphones…because when you realize you want to spend the next hour listening to a podcast episode, you want the next hour to start as soon as possible!

Mentioned in this episode:
https://youtu.be/TuNcyWIUEf4?si=bh_bMe8hlA5eDq26
https://farragomagazine.com/article/farrago/on-the-everlasting-charm-of-when-harry-met-sally/
https://jwa.org/blog/five-most-feminist-moments-from-when-harry-met-sally
https://www.womaninrevolt.com/second-thoughts-harry-from-when-harry-met-sally/
https://www.vulture.com/2012/10/when-harry-met-sally-is-bad-for-ladies.html
https://www.movienight.ink/p/when-harry-met-sally

Our theme music is "Professor Umlaut" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Learn more about Tracie and Emily (including our other projects), join the Guy Girls' family, secure exclusiv

Podcasts only work one way. Let's change that! Our Patrons receive all kinds of perks, from early access to episodes to exclusive bonus content to discounts on merch to invitations to our monthly live calls. Deep thinking shouldn't be done alone! Come overthink with us and other listeners! Learn more and join at patreon.com/guygirls

We are the sister podcasters Tracie Guy-Decker and Emily Guy Birken, known to our extended family as the Guy Girls.

We're hella smart and completely unashamed of our overthinking prowess. We love 80s and 90s movies and tv, science fiction, comedy, and murder mysteries, good storytelling with lots of dramatic irony, analyzing film tropes with a side of feminism, and examining the pop culture of our Gen X childhood for gender dynamics, psychology, sociology, religious allegory, and whatever else we find.

We have super-serious day jobs. For the bona fides, visit our individual websites: tracieguydecker.com and emilyguybirken.com. For our work together, visit guygirlsmedia.com

We are on socials! Find us on Facebook at fb.com/dtasspodcast and on Insta at instagram.com/guygirlsmedia. You can also email us at guygirlsmedia at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you!

  continue reading

Chapters

1. When Harry Met Sally (00:00:00)

2. Navigating Relationships and Breakups (00:15:22)

3. Building Friendship After Heartbreak (00:18:57)

4. Discovering Love and Feminism (00:26:50)

5. Examining Gender Dynamics in Relationships (00:41:49)

6. Challenging Heteronormativity in Film (00:47:03)

7. Exploring Gender Dynamics in Cinema (00:56:59)

8. Sally's Singlehood and Gender Dynamics (01:01:46)

127 episodes

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