In this episode, renowned governance, risk, and compliance critical infrastructure security and resiliency expert Jim Danburg joins us for a candid and thought-provoking conversation on data classification including a funny story doing a project for a CISO (chief information security officer). More specifically, we discuss the four types of data classification vs. only three, data over-classification, data mis-classification, governance risk and compliance, data security, role based access control (RBAC), need to know policy, litigation discovery risk, the declining cost of data storage: disk vs. solid state, outsourcing data and PCI risk, mapping dependencies, the relationship between executives and data policy compliance, bring your own device (BYOD) containerization: corporate vs. personal data with privacy implications, the secure destruction of data and hardware – and what it takes to improve all this! Disclaimer: This podcast does not represent the views of former or current employers and / or clients. This podcast will make every reasonable effort to verify facts and inferences therefrom. However, this podcast is intended to entertain and significantly inform its audience based on subjective reason based opinions. Non-public information will not be disclosed. Information obtained in this podcast may be materially out of date at or after the time of the podcast. This podcast is not legal, accounting, audit, health, technical, or financial advice. © Abstract Forward Consulting, LLC.