Jay Payleitner knows what it’s like to step out on a new adventure. A theatre major turned copier salesman turned radio producer, Jay’s been fired two days after his second son was born and he’s learned that it was all part of God’s plan---God’s dare, really---to take the next bold step. Jay joins Leary and Armin to talk about his new book, The Jesus Dare, and how he’s daring believers and non-believers to step out in faith.