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Today I speak to Mack Ortis, he was the lead singer of a rock band, Without Spaces, who toured CA for 4 years and released an EP & LP before signing to a record label. Then went on to a career as a longtime Facebook employee during its meteoric rise, who grew the Apple & Google accounts to $100 million. And now he's back to music, watch the video or listen to the audio to hear all about it.

You can find out more about Mack at www.linktr.ee/mackortis

As always, you can catch all previous episodes or learn more about me at linktr.ee/mogabr