In this episode, we’re no messiah, we’re a movie of the week, with the 1995 David Fincher crime thriller SE7EN.

We’re joined by special guest, Golden Globes Water Girl Kelleth Cuthbert (Bold and the Beautiful, Inside Edition) and after Kelleth compares notes with Pops on what life is like as a tall person, we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with Morgan Freeman’s masterful performance. We argue over when Brad Pitt was at his hottest, Kelleth does her best impression of the famous “What’s in the Box” scene, and Pops dives into the movie’s deep hatred of city life. We move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with the Great Spacey Debate. We question whether or not the opening title sequence is stuck in the 90s, Shane describes why a barber would make the perfect criminal and Mike asks the question that fans of Se7en have pondered for years: who do you prefer on Frasier, Roz or Daphne?