This is an episode that was never going to air. It was recorded on June 8, 2025. Paul was adamant that he did not want to talk about his upcoming cataract surgery and he wanted to keep it private. Dan convinced him that it was just so they could practice talking about something that made Paul uncomfortable. Finally, Dan convinced Paul to "practice" and the rest is history. After listening to the recording, Paul agreed to share it with our listeners. Raw and unplugged.