What does loyalty really mean when it costs you something? In this episode, Matt and Will unpack the balance between standing by someone and standing for what’s right. Will shares a surprising insight on conversation, showing how genuine connection often begins when we stop asking questions and start making meaningful statements.

From a funny grad school story about misplaced loyalty to reflections on faith, friendship, and leadership, the guys explore why perfection isn’t the goal and why real loyalty shows up even when it’s inconvenient. Sometimes being flawed but faithful is exactly what God asks of us.

Takeaways:

• Connection grows when we stop performing and start being present
• Loyalty shows its weight when it stops being convenient
• Grace begins the moment we let go of control
• Leadership isn’t loud, it’s consistent, fair, and human
• Faith is choosing to keep showing up when the outcome’s unclear

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