In this week's episode of Cultural Catalysts, Kris and Banning are joined by Richard Gordon, Bethel's brilliant Chief Technology Officer from South Africa. Richard shares his remarkable journey from engineering to ministry, and together they dive into one of the most challenging tensions leaders face: balancing supernatural faith with practical wisdom. Richard offers a profound insight that "if you build on miracles alone, you'll burn out, and if you build on wisdom alone, you'll dry out," revealing how grace allows us to carry both. The conversation explores how to navigate prophetic words that don't unfold as expected, the importance of accountability in leadership, and why true greatness often comes through pressure and refinement. Join us for this thought-provoking discussion that will challenge you to embrace both the miraculous and the strategic in your own leadership journey! Connect with Kris Vallotton: Website: https://www.krisvallotton.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kvministries/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kvministries/ X: https://x.com/kvministries Additional Resources by Kris Vallotton: https://shop.bethel.com/collections/kris-vallotton About Kris Vallotton: Kris Vallotton is the Senior Associate Leader of Bethel Church, Redding, and is the Co-Founder of Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry (BSSM) and Spiritual Intelligence Institute. He is also the Founder and President of Moral Revolution and a sought-after international conference speaker. Kris and his wife, Kathy, have trained, developed, and pastored prophetic teams and supernatural schools all over the world.