On this episode, we're diving into the high-stakes side of persuasion—where the goal isn't to sell a product, but to uncover the truth. Our guest, Mark Anderson, is a science-based investigative interviewing expert who trains professionals across law enforcement, HR, and compliance on how to navigate the toughest kinds of conversations—the ones that deal with accountability, job loss, or even criminal consequences. We'll explore how persuasion works when the stakes are personal and the outcomes painful, why listening—real, active listening—isn't just a soft skill but the foundation of ethical influence, and what business leaders can learn from investigative interviewing when it comes to leading with trust and integrity. You can learn more about Mark by visiting https://andersoninvestigative.com.