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113. Why Church Hurt Happens & How We Heal Together with Scott Martin

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A warm note of gratitude sets the stage for a frank, grace-filled conversation about church hurt...what it is, what it isn’t, and how we heal without denying hard truths. We welcome Scott Martin, who opens up about the loneliness of leadership, the danger of pedestal culture, and the quiet ways identity drift turns pastors into performers. Scott draws a clear line between abuses of authority and the everyday bumps of human community, then shows how clarity and humility can prevent small missteps from becoming public meltdowns.
We unpack what it means to be “in Christ,” not as a religious add-on but a core identity that steadies us when roles change and criticism cuts deep. That identity reframes expectations: pastors are guides, not saviors; congregants are partners, not consumers. Together we explore the hard balance of grace and truth—naming sin, refusing gossip, practicing accountability, and still choosing patient love. With COVID-era tensions and social media pressures as backdrop, Scott makes a compelling case for slow, honest leadership that admits “I don’t know” and keeps moving one faithful step at a time.
The heart of our podcast lands here: while the church can wound us, God heals us through the church. We consider the church as the bride of Christ and how our words either honor or tear at that bond. Unity becomes more than a slogan; it’s the everyday discipline that gives our witness credibility. If you’ve been hurt by leaders or by a community that should have protected you, we see you. Receive our sincere apology and an invitation to take one small, safe step back toward people who can walk with you.
If this conversation helped you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so others can find hope and healing too.

Watch the whole story:
https://youtu.be/f9dFkMT901E

https://generationstogenerations.com/podcast
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Stories shared by guests may not always be shared views of OPET.
Being a guest does not mean OPET approves of every decision or action in the guests' life.
We all have a story, all of us, share your story. You don't have to have the perfect answer or the perfect life - share what Jesus is doing in your life. This is an easy, real way to witness & share your testimony.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Thanksgiving Gratitude & Milestones (00:00:00)

2. Meet Scott: Playful, Studious, Stubborn (00:00:40)

3. Prayer And Heart For The Topic (00:02:58)

4. Defining “Church Hurt” Clearly (00:04:45)

5. How The Term Shapes Public Perception (00:08:10)

6. Leadership Wounds vs Human Friction (00:10:20)

7. When Congregations Hurt Leaders (00:14:20)

8. Identity: Pastor As Role, Not Self (00:19:10)

9. Expectations, Pedestals, And Boundaries (00:24:30)

10. In Christ: The Core Identity (00:29:10)

11. Industry Pressures And Integrity (00:34:30)

12. Grace And Truth In Tension (00:39:20)

13. Healed By People In The Church (00:44:20)

114 episodes

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A warm note of gratitude sets the stage for a frank, grace-filled conversation about church hurt...what it is, what it isn’t, and how we heal without denying hard truths. We welcome Scott Martin, who opens up about the loneliness of leadership, the danger of pedestal culture, and the quiet ways identity drift turns pastors into performers. Scott draws a clear line between abuses of authority and the everyday bumps of human community, then shows how clarity and humility can prevent small missteps from becoming public meltdowns.
We unpack what it means to be “in Christ,” not as a religious add-on but a core identity that steadies us when roles change and criticism cuts deep. That identity reframes expectations: pastors are guides, not saviors; congregants are partners, not consumers. Together we explore the hard balance of grace and truth—naming sin, refusing gossip, practicing accountability, and still choosing patient love. With COVID-era tensions and social media pressures as backdrop, Scott makes a compelling case for slow, honest leadership that admits “I don’t know” and keeps moving one faithful step at a time.
The heart of our podcast lands here: while the church can wound us, God heals us through the church. We consider the church as the bride of Christ and how our words either honor or tear at that bond. Unity becomes more than a slogan; it’s the everyday discipline that gives our witness credibility. If you’ve been hurt by leaders or by a community that should have protected you, we see you. Receive our sincere apology and an invitation to take one small, safe step back toward people who can walk with you.
If this conversation helped you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so others can find hope and healing too.

Watch the whole story:
https://youtu.be/f9dFkMT901E

https://generationstogenerations.com/podcast
[email protected]

https://www.facebook.com/ordinarypeoplestory

https://www.instagram.com/ordinarypeopleextraordinary/

X: @storiesextra
Any advice should be confirmed with a qualified professional.
All rights reserved: Ordinary People Extraordinary Things
Stories shared by guests may not always be shared views of OPET.
Being a guest does not mean OPET approves of every decision or action in the guests' life.
We all have a story, all of us, share your story. You don't have to have the perfect answer or the perfect life - share what Jesus is doing in your life. This is an easy, real way to witness & share your testimony.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Thanksgiving Gratitude & Milestones (00:00:00)

2. Meet Scott: Playful, Studious, Stubborn (00:00:40)

3. Prayer And Heart For The Topic (00:02:58)

4. Defining “Church Hurt” Clearly (00:04:45)

5. How The Term Shapes Public Perception (00:08:10)

6. Leadership Wounds vs Human Friction (00:10:20)

7. When Congregations Hurt Leaders (00:14:20)

8. Identity: Pastor As Role, Not Self (00:19:10)

9. Expectations, Pedestals, And Boundaries (00:24:30)

10. In Christ: The Core Identity (00:29:10)

11. Industry Pressures And Integrity (00:34:30)

12. Grace And Truth In Tension (00:39:20)

13. Healed By People In The Church (00:44:20)

114 episodes

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