What if the question that keeps you stuck is the very thing you need to surrender? This conversation with Debbie Simmons travels from the heartbreak of losing quadruplets to the hard-won hope of adopting nine children, welcoming 15 grandkids, and building a nonprofit that strengthens families at scale. Along the way, we explore identity beyond performance, the faith to move when the fog is thick, and the practical tools that make healing possible in real homes with real stress.
We dig into the shift from “why” to “what’s my next best step” and how that simple practice fuels resilience for parents, founders, and leaders. Debbie shares the chaos and comedy of becoming a mom to five overnight, the systems that kept dinner and laundry from breaking the house, and the moment TBRI reframed meltdowns as signals instead of battles. If you’re raising kids from hard places, or leading people who carry invisible wounds, you’ll learn how high structure and high nurture work together to rewire the brain, replace maladaptive behaviors with language, and build a family culture where safety and accountability can coexist.
We also unpack the origin of Anchor Point, complete with resistance, obedience, and doors opening at the last possible minute. From a medical clinic for pregnancy decisions to abortion recovery, trauma reboot groups, therapeutic family camps, and community parenting initiatives, Debbie shows what comprehensive family support looks like when compassion and competence meet. For entrepreneurs, there’s a throughline: systems that scale care, decisions under uncertainty, and the relentless courage to take the next best step until clarity returns.
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