Nicole has long said that everyone— not just celebrities or billionaires—should have a prenup, and to make that case, she’s joined by the GOAT of divorce law: Laura Wasser. Known for representing A-listers like Kim Kardashian, Johnny Depp, and Britney Spears, Laura brings more than just star power—she’s a fierce advocate for smarter, healthier relationships built on clear communication, especially around money.

In their conversation, Nicole and Laura dive into everything from crypto and pet custody to embryos and outrageous prenup clauses—yes, including rumors like the alleged “addiction clause” in Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban’s agreement. Laura also shares some of the wildest prenup requests she’s encountered and offers a refreshingly honest take on why asking for a prenup (or postnup) isn't divorce planning, it's marriage planning.