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THE SIGNAL: Embedded Payments, No Spin: From Integration to Innovation with NMI | Episode 450

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Most software teams still think of payments as a chore. We take you inside the playbook that turns it into a growth engine. I sits down with NMI CTO Phillip Goericke to unpack how embedded payments evolved from a basic checkout to a full-stack platform that handles onboarding, underwriting, payouts, analytics, and even embedded finance. The conversation is straight talk on what actually works when you’re shipping fast and scaling globally.
We dig into the architectural choices that matter: start with a no-code drop-in to activate revenue quickly, then progress to low-code SDKs and finally full APIs when you need deep control. Phillip shares where platforms stall - manual KYC, fragmented global rules, and data blind spots and how a modular approach fixes these without ripping out your stack. You’ll hear how compliance-as-a-service, network tokenization, and adaptive 3D Secure can raise approval rates, reduce fraud, and simplify audits while keeping the checkout experience seamless.
Looking ahead, we explore why identity, compliance, and data are the foundation for embedded finance. Philip outlines NMI’s unified experience that brings payments, onboarding, insights, and new services like business capital into one place. We also tackle AI with clear eyes: use it to augment decisioning and anomaly detection, but wrap it with deterministic controls so money-critical outcomes are consistently right. The key takeaway is a mindset shift: stop treating payments as a feature and start using it as a strategic lever for revenue, retention, and product velocity.
If you’re building software with transactions anywhere in the flow, this is your blueprint for turning payments into a competitive moat. Subscribe for more deep dives, share with a teammate who owns monetization, and leave a review to tell us what topic you want next.

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Chapters

1. Opening And Theme Setup (00:00:00)

2. Phillip’s Background And Path To NMI (00:00:59)

3. What NMI Does And Scale (00:02:08)

4. Defining Embedded Payments And Why It Matters (00:02:43)

5. From MVP Checkout To Full Lifecycle (00:03:35)

6. Bottlenecks At Scale: KYC, Global, Data (00:05:24)

7. Designing For Optionality: No Code To API (00:07:08)

8. Integration Realities And Support (00:09:24)

9. Differentiation And Modular Moats (00:10:24)

10. Sales Friction And Reducing Complexity (00:11:38)

11. Practical Modularity Without Rebuilds (00:13:16)

12. Preparing For Embedded Finance And OneX (00:14:49)

13. AI’s Role And Reliability Concerns (00:17:00)

14. Risk, Compliance As A Service, And Tokens (00:18:41)

15. Core Takeaway And Closing (00:21:04)

452 episodes

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Content provided by Greg Myers. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Greg Myers or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Most software teams still think of payments as a chore. We take you inside the playbook that turns it into a growth engine. I sits down with NMI CTO Phillip Goericke to unpack how embedded payments evolved from a basic checkout to a full-stack platform that handles onboarding, underwriting, payouts, analytics, and even embedded finance. The conversation is straight talk on what actually works when you’re shipping fast and scaling globally.
We dig into the architectural choices that matter: start with a no-code drop-in to activate revenue quickly, then progress to low-code SDKs and finally full APIs when you need deep control. Phillip shares where platforms stall - manual KYC, fragmented global rules, and data blind spots and how a modular approach fixes these without ripping out your stack. You’ll hear how compliance-as-a-service, network tokenization, and adaptive 3D Secure can raise approval rates, reduce fraud, and simplify audits while keeping the checkout experience seamless.
Looking ahead, we explore why identity, compliance, and data are the foundation for embedded finance. Philip outlines NMI’s unified experience that brings payments, onboarding, insights, and new services like business capital into one place. We also tackle AI with clear eyes: use it to augment decisioning and anomaly detection, but wrap it with deterministic controls so money-critical outcomes are consistently right. The key takeaway is a mindset shift: stop treating payments as a feature and start using it as a strategic lever for revenue, retention, and product velocity.
If you’re building software with transactions anywhere in the flow, this is your blueprint for turning payments into a competitive moat. Subscribe for more deep dives, share with a teammate who owns monetization, and leave a review to tell us what topic you want next.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Opening And Theme Setup (00:00:00)

2. Phillip’s Background And Path To NMI (00:00:59)

3. What NMI Does And Scale (00:02:08)

4. Defining Embedded Payments And Why It Matters (00:02:43)

5. From MVP Checkout To Full Lifecycle (00:03:35)

6. Bottlenecks At Scale: KYC, Global, Data (00:05:24)

7. Designing For Optionality: No Code To API (00:07:08)

8. Integration Realities And Support (00:09:24)

9. Differentiation And Modular Moats (00:10:24)

10. Sales Friction And Reducing Complexity (00:11:38)

11. Practical Modularity Without Rebuilds (00:13:16)

12. Preparing For Embedded Finance And OneX (00:14:49)

13. AI’s Role And Reliability Concerns (00:17:00)

14. Risk, Compliance As A Service, And Tokens (00:18:41)

15. Core Takeaway And Closing (00:21:04)

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