In this conversation, Justin Ancheta and Sofia Avramides discuss their experiences as herbalists and the challenges they face in the modern world. They talk about the differences in herbalism between different regions, such as the Northeast and Southern California. They also explore the use of specific plants like mallow and olive leaf for medicinal purposes. The conversation touches on the importance of bio orientation and connecting with the local environment. They also discuss the role of capitalism in herbalism and the value of creating and sharing medicine.