’A Conversation With’ is our Zing Learning podcast where we speak to real people doing incredible things in their careers, for other people or the world of inclusion. We will be sharing the ways in which they are enhancing awareness around important topics and get advice and suggestions from our experts in how to enhance inclusion, embed belonging and just generally make the world a better place.
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Learn about Unmanned Traffic Management (UTM) and how drones will be integrated into society through expert industry interviews.
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How did the richest people on the planet make their billions? Make up your minds whether you think they are good, bad or just another billionaire. Good Bad Billionaire is the podcast that analyses the minds, motives and money of some of the world's wealthiest individuals. The BBC’s Business Editor, Simon Jack, and journalist and author Zing Tsjeng explore the lives of the super-rich and famous, tracking their wealth, philanthropy, business ethics and success. From iconic celebrities and secr ...
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In the midst of this unprecedented economic environment, many businesses are thriving. How are they doing it? Tune in to the HSBC Talks Business podcast series, where we explore the challenges businesses are facing and the interesting and innovative ways that banking solutions are helping them succeed. We speak with business leaders from small and mid-market enterprises along with HSBC experts to understand topics such as sustainability, cash management, supply chain optimisations, and how t ...
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Film stars, tech bros, shipping magnates and online retail giants... BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng introduce the latest batch of billionaires whose stories they will uncover in their new season, starting 6 October. Good Bad Billionaire is the podcast that explores the lives of the super-rich and famous, tracking their we…
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Encore - Film Stories: George Lucas and Peter Jackson
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1:04:29George Lucas created Star Wars and Peter Jackson directed the Lord of the Rings films, two of the movie world’s most epic adventures. Ahead of a new season of Good Bad Billionaire, presented by Zing Tsjeng and BBC business editor Simon Jack, here’s another chance to hear how these two film directors went from zero to a billion, in episodes original…
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The dead billionaires: What do you think?
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10:49What did you think of John D Rockefeller, Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, Sam Walton and Hetty Green? These five titans of American industry include an oil tycoon, a motor magnate, an eccentric aviator, the founder of Walmart, and an unsung pioneer of value investment known as the ‘Witch of Wall Street’. They helped shape business in the United States, …
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Hetty Green was America’s richest woman, but was renowned as the nation’s biggest miser. But she built her investment fortune in an era before women could even vote. Journalist Zing Tsjeng and BBC business editor Simon Jack tell the forgotten story of a woman guided by Quakerism who loaned money to New York City when it was in financial peril. She …
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Sam Walton put discount megastores on the map and built the largest retailer on Earth. He founded Walmart, which now has around 10,500 stores across 19 countries, and 255 million customers a week, thanks to their low prices. They also employ more than two million workers. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng explore Sam’s pench…
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The original weird billionaire, Howard Hughes was a filmmaker, a playboy and a world record-breaking aviator. He was also an obsessive germophobe who died a paranoid recluse. Journalist Zing Tsjeng and BBC business editor Simon Jack tell the story of one of the strangest billionaires in history. A wealthy child who was orphaned young, he dallied in…
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Henry Ford may not have invented the car, or even the assembly line, but he perfected them. His Model T – nicknamed “Tin Lizzie” – made cars affordable for the average worker, not just the rich. He was a master tinkerer, inventor and even introduced the five-day 40-hour work week – better than the six-day grind that was the norm at the time. But hi…
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John D Rockefeller: The first billionaire
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47:12John D Rockefeller built his fortune refining oil and founding Standard Oil. A pioneer of the U.S. business trust, he helped shape the structure of the modern corporation. His influence lives on in companies like Chevron, ExxonMobil, and ConocoPhillips, and in institutions like the Rockefeller Foundation. But not everyone saw him as a visionary. Pr…
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We’re back – but with a difference! Find out how some of the world's most famous dead billionaires made their money. Meet five billionaires who helped build the United States of America. First up: oil tycoon John D Rockefeller, the world’s first billionaire. Simon Jack and Zing Tsjeng also revisit the lives of motor magnate Henry Ford, the aviator …
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Mining magnate Eike Batista was once Brazil’s richest person, but corruption led to his downfall. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng lift the lid on a flashy and eccentric former billionaire who started out in gold mining. Batista then oversaw huge oil, gas and logistics projects but, after his investments crashed, the author…
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LeBron James was selling out basketball arenas while still in high school. At just 18, he said he was offered a $10 million cheque from Reebok - on the spot - if he agreed not to meet any other brands. It was a life-changing sum for a teenager living with his mum in the projects. But LeBron turned it down. He was willing to hedge his bets. He’s won…
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Investor Masayoshi Son became notorious for making huge bets on technology companies. He once lost 96% of his fortune, but he’s still a billionaire thanks to successes like Yahoo! and Alibaba. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng tell the tale of the billionaire who founded the conglomerate SoftBank and was once, very briefly, …
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A Conversation With...Grace Cooper - The Intersectional Career Experience
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43:46In this episode, we talk to Grace Cooper. Grace shares the unique advantages and challenges she’s faced due to her intersecting identities, along with common misconceptions about neurodiversity. She highlights the role of supportive allies and offers examples of how they’ve made a difference in her journey. Grace also discusses moments of feeling m…
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Telecoms magnate Strive Masiyiwa escaped kidnap to become Zimbabwe’s first billionaire. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng tell Masiyiwa’s story from a youth fleeing post-colonial conflict, through education in the UK, to enormous wealth delivering mobile phone and internet technology across Africa. The podcast that tells tal…
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Former Marvel CEO & Chairman Isaac "Ike" Perlmutter brought Marvel back from the brink of ruin and helped launch the Marvel cinematic universe. He brought Iron Man, The Hulk and The Avengers to our screens, and arguably changed the future of cinema, with a fixation on franchises. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng delve into …
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Selena Gomez: Actress, singer, beauty mogul
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47:30Selena Gomez is one of the youngest newly minted billionaires, thanks to her Rare Beauty brand. But you likely know her from her Disney kid days on The Wizards of Waverly Place, award-winning turn in Only Murders in the Building, or as the chart-topping singer of Lose You to Love Me. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng take us…
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Orlando Bravo failed to become a tennis pro, but became richer than any tennis player in history by pivoting to the world of finance. He’s the first billionaire from Puerto Rico and earned his fortune with private equity investments in technology. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng tell the story of an investor who says that …
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Vince McMahon made stars out of wrestlers like Hulk Hogan, John Cena and Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson. He turned professional wrestling into a $6.8 billion industry with his company World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE). Vince capitalised on cross-promotion and the spectacle of what he called "sports entertainment" to reach huge audiences before he step…
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Minecraft is the most successful computer game ever. It's sold 300 million copies, built an active community of fans and there's now even a Minecraft movie. So how did one man - Markus Persson - create it all by himself, before selling it for billions? BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng find out how a high school dropout, obs…
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By reinventing reality TV, John de Mol changed television history and made a billion dollars. He’s the father of Big Brother and the man behind The Voice, Deal or No Deal and Fear Factor. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng explain how the Dutch TV producer became a media tycoon, after using his showbiz connections to break in…
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A blocked vacuum cleaner led to a billion-dollar idea for British inventor Sir James Dyson. After studying art, then reinventing the wheelbarrow, Dyson struck gold with his iconic bagless vacuum, but only after years of effort. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng take us back to the entrepreneur’s youth in post-War Norfolk and…
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Martha Stewart: The original lifestyle influencer
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51:15Martha Stewart revolutionised home entertaining with her recipes, home decor and TV shows, becoming one of the world's most successful women in business. Known as the ultimate homemaker and the "original lifestyle influencer", she's also the USA’s first ever self-made female billionaire. But while the entrepreneur made her fortune as a domestic god…
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A Conversation With...Irfaan Arif - Applied Behavioural Science & DEI
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36:10In this episode, we sit down with Irfaan Arif to explore how behavioural science can enhance diversity and inclusion efforts in organisations and society. Irfaan explains how understanding human behaviour can help avoid common DEI pitfalls and why some diversity initiatives fail. We delve into the power of incentives and decision-making strategies …
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When Charles "Chuck" Feeney first appeared on the world's rich lists in the 1980s, he had built a billion-dollar business selling duty free goods to tourists. But he'd also given most of his money to charity. As Good Bad Billionaire takes a short break until March, Simon Jack and Zing Tsjeng revisit the story of the billionaire who wasn't. Feeney's…
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A year after first being declared a billionaire, Taylor Swift’s rarely been out of the headlines or the charts. The pop superstar’s Eras tour finally came to an end, and she’s been continuing to break records. Good Bad Billionaire will be back with a new season in March, but until then, here’s a quick update on what Taylor’s been up to and another …
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In today’s fast-moving environment, how can UK consultants adapt and flex to position themselves for growth? In our latest podcast, Victoria Ritchie, Head of Professional and Business Services, HSBC UK, is joined by Tamzen Isacsson, Chief Executive of the Management Consultancies Association, and Andrew Meaney, Head of Transport Sector at economics…
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A Conversation With...Daryl McCollin - The Filmmaking Industry & Intersectionality
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46:34In this episode, we speak with Daryl McCollin about his journey in the film and media industry. Daryl shares how he got his start, the challenges he’s faced as someone from an underrepresented background, and whether he’s seen improvements in diversity during his career. He reflects on the importance of allies in his journey and offers advice for h…
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What do Airbnb, Facebook, Spotify, and LinkedIn all have in common? Peter Thiel. They made his fortune, but he’s since rejected Silicon Valley for being too "woke". He’s a contradictory character: a libertarian who made billions from big state surveillance; an intellectual who purports to hate politics, but who’s poured millions into political camp…
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The woman behind the brand that revolutionised the way the world shopped and dressed. Doris Fisher and her husband Don founded The Gap together and made basics cool – their pocket t-shirt was worn by both Mick Jagger at Live Aid and Marty McFly in Back to the Future, while Sharon Stone donned a $25 Gap black turtleneck for the Oscars. Simon Jack an…
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How can treasurers support supply chain resilience?
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15:30Florence Tan, Regional Head of Global Trade Solutions Europe at HSBC, discusses with Tom Alford, Deputy Editor of TMI, the importance of establishing supply chain resilience and insights on how treasurers have a vital role to play in keeping trade flows running smoothly, as well as what tools and services are available to them to help achieve their…
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Carlos Slim Helú's financial might has led some people to nickname his native Mexico ‘Slimlandia’. He dominates the country’s businesses, from telecoms to construction. But how did a man whose hero happens to be the Mongol warlord Genghis Khan get to be the richest person in the world? Many have blamed his monopolist business empire for Mexico’s sl…
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How can treasurers ensure their financial activities are secure?
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14:48Peter Crawley, Head of Global Payments Solutions Europe at HSBC discusses emerging risks of digitalisation and how best our customers can respond with Tom Alford, Deputy Editor of TMI. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Roman Abramovich: Premier League oligarch
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40:21Roman Abramovich was known as the "stealth oligarch" before he stepped into the limelight as Chelsea football club’s sugar daddy owner. The man loves a yacht: his largest cost $427m, and has bullet-proof windows and an escape submarine. Abramovich made his fortune from post-Soviet privatisation, aided by a man known as the “Godfather of the Kremlin…
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Mukesh Ambani caught the world’s attention when he forked out $600m on his son’s wedding, including a performance by Rihanna – but how did he become Asia’s richest person? Mukesh grew his father’s polyester trading company, Reliance Industries, into a conglomerate. But when he died without a will, Mukesh had to fight his brother for control of the …
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Metal man and football fan Patrice Motsepe rose out of post-apartheid South Africa to become the country’s first black billionaire. Under apartheid, Patrice had to get a special permit to study at an ‘whites-only’ university - the same that Nelson Mandela attended in the 1940s - becoming a lawyer before following the gold into the mines. When the r…
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Jack Ma is the king of ecommerce in China. Nicknamed 'Daddy Ma', the former school teacher even appeared alongside martial arts legend Jet Li in a kung fu movie. But how did a scrawny, belligerent child, who was the only person who failed to get hired at his local KFC, become the chairman and CEO of online mega-platform Alibaba? BBC business editor…
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A Conversation With...Lauralee Whyte - Increasing Events Representation
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39:46In this episode, we chat with Lauralee Whyte, the founder of Spectrum Speakers, a trailblazing agency promoting diverse voices in public speaking. We explore why diverse representation is crucial, how it benefits both society and businesses and hear examples of the positive outcomes it brings. Our guest shares tips for organisations looking to dive…
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Opportunities to Action: Supplier Collaboration
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14:43In our episode three, “Opportunities to Action: Supplier Collaboration”, we delve into transforming business cases into actionable strategies, focusing on the collaborative relationship between buyers and suppliers. Our hosts, HSBC’s Erwan Le Grand, European Head of Commercialisation & Account Management, Corporate Cards, Global Payments Solutions …
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The story of how Yvon Chouinard, a reluctant billionaire who only wanted to climb and surf, harnessed his passions to create outdoor apparel brand Patagonia - before giving it all away to fight climate change. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng discover how the self-proclaimed "existential dirtbag" went from jumping freight t…
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Whitney Wolfe Herd: Dating app entrepreneur
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42:18Whitney Wolfe Herd, the “queen of the swipes”, launched a female-led dating app after a public scandal around her sexual harassment and discrimination lawsuit against Tinder. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng follow her story from a popular student with a flair for marketing, to carving her own path in the male-dominated tec…
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Industrialist Aliko Dangote is known as a mild-mannered cement tycoon who often drives himself to business meetings. How did he become the world’s richest black person? Dangote rapidly dominated Nigeria’s cement, sugar, flour and fertiliser markets. He says his mission is to make Nigeria’s economy self-reliant, without requiring Western investment …
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Sam Altman: ChatGPT and the AI revolution
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45:48How is freshly minted billionaire Sam Altman shaping our future through his company OpenAI and ChatGPT? He made his fortune by investing in huge tech start-ups like Reddit and Airbnb, before turning his attention to artificial intelligence - being fired and re-hired by his own company in the process. Altman believes that OpenAI, with him in charge,…
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Safeguarding your Business – A Real-Life Fraud Story
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25:20Payment fraud, including scams, are major risks which impact businesses of all size. In this episode, you will hear first-hand from a real life victim of Fraud. We discuss the human impact of fraud and outline some vital tips which can help protect your business. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
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How did an unassuming software engineer become one of the richest people on the planet? This is the story of how Zhang Yiming transformed social media by creating TikTok, and how the Chinese tech company ByteDance became a multi-billion dollar business. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng explore Yiming’s various successes wit…
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Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw: Beer, brewing and biotech
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34:01Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw built a pharmaceutical empire after failing to get a job brewing beer. She also overcame gender bias to become India’s first self-made female billionaire. Her company Biocon is now Asia's biggest insulin producer. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng follow her story, from a childhood living on a brewery com…
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George Soros: 'The man who broke the Bank of England'
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45:34George Soros escaped Nazi occupation in Hungary, before becoming one of the most successful investors in history. After making his name on Wall Street and setting up the hedge fund Quantum, he also become known as “the man who broke the Bank of England” after making a billion dollars in a day by “betting against” the pound. BBC business editor Simo…
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Jerry Seinfeld: The world’s richest comedian
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36:56Jerry Seinfeld has a life-long obsession with jokes, but his smash hit sitcom turned the New York stand-up into the richest comedian of all time. Seinfeld was the most watched programme in America when it ended in in 1998, but it’s what came next that made the real Jerry Seinfeld mega rich – streaming and syndication. Simon Jack and Zing Tsjeng fin…
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How did Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson become one of only four filmmakers worth a billion dollars, and one of just three billionaires from New Zealand? BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng find out how a childhood obsession with movies led to a booming film industry in Jackson’s homeland. From Bad Taste to King Kong a…
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Seizing opportunities from the growth of Intra-ASEAN trade
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16:30ASEAN is an extremely exciting economic region which has proven a viable alternative to multi-national corporates looking to diversity their manufacturing hubs. In this episode, you’ll hear from our industry experts and gain valuable insights as they explore the opportunities and challenges of intra-ASEAN trade, and the growth potential for busines…
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How a communist mime artist became the billionaire boss of a luxury fashion house. Miuccia Prada changed her name, then made it famous with one of the runway’s biggest brands. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng explain how the Italian fashion designer turned her grandfather’s shop into a fashion powerhouse. Alongside her husb…
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