Podcast channel for internationally minded people in The Netherlands. Interviews and lectures about living and working in The Netherlands, covering topics like Business, Career, Networking, Cultural differences, tips for trips and recommendations by fellow expats. The podcast is hosted by Michel Daenen, a Dutch sociologist who has been an expat himself and since he repatriated supports international people to have a smooth landing in The Netherlands. This podcast originally started as a Radi ...
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Your Move To The Netherlands Podcasts
A podcast for Americans who are curious and serious about relocating to a European country. For more resources and to join the conversation, find us on Substack at We're Moving to Europe.
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Welcome to Flourish in the Foreign—a space where Black women embrace the unfamiliar and cultivate lives of intention, wellness, and depth. This isn’t just a podcast about moving abroad. It’s about living abroad with purpose, not as an escape, but as an opportunity to expand your horizons in every sense—financial, physical, mental, and spiritual. It’s about creating a life that resonates with the fullness of who you are and the richness of the world around you. In each episode, Christine Job, ...
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Welcome to the Chats with Leaders podcast, this is a podcast for ambitious leaders who want to find the sweet spot between building a career they are proud of, whilst prioritising time for life. Yes, you can do both! Let's face it, modern leadership is a rollercoaster regardless of experience level. At the heart of this podcast is the desire to share hot tips, stories and insights to help you confidently navigate the challenges of work and life. Jenn has supported 1000's of people across the ...
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Americans Going to College In Europe: Expert Tips from a Consultant
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39:45For people in the US who are really passionate about intellectual freedom, the options of college abroad are appealing to a lot of different groups of people for a lot of really motivating reasons. – Karen Shopoff Rooff, Independent College Consultant Useful Resources The We're Moving to Europe Membership Community: Practical Support and Guidance f…
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Moving from the US to the Netherlands with Jana Sanchez and Bethany Quinn
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44:03The Netherlands feels familiar to people because so many people speak English, and there are a lot of things from American culture that come from Dutch culture – Jana The real question that everyone needs to ask themselves is, what do you want your life to look like? What kind of a country do you want to live in, and what kind of a country do you w…
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Living in the Balkans as an American and Navigating Unexpected Loss Abroad – with Chanoa Inez
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36:47What’s it like starting a new life in the Balkans as an American, and then dealing with sudden tragedy in an unfamiliar place? In this episode, author Chanoa Inez shares her experiences living in Montenegro and Serbia, why she still loves Montenegro, and how she rebuilt her life. "You can come back from any tragedy. There's always another dream to …
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How to Use Social Media to Research Your Move Without Losing Your Mind – with Dr. Jennifer Weber
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33:56Social media and the web are full of useful information for Americans who are considering a move to Europe. But they’re also full of outdated, incomplete, and outright bad information that can steer you wrong on a life-changing decision. Behavioral analyst and educator Dr. Jennifer Weber shares her recommendations on how we can examine the informat…
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Raising a child and running a business in France
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31:52Summary Moving to another country is a big challenge, especially if you’re bringing your child and your business to a new culture. Our guest, open source consultant and expert Emily Omier, did both when she moved from Oregon to Paris. She shares her experiences with getting her daughter ready for the move, learning what French public schools provid…
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Going to College in the Netherlands: An American Perspective
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35:41Summary Leiden University undergraduate Fletcher Barton shares how and why he left Texas for college in Europe. He also offers tips on deciding if it fits your goals well, what to expect, and how to get ready. First, there's the independence, which feels amazing. And this, this depends on, on the personality, of course, but I find the, the independ…
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Scouting Trip Success: Planning to Find a Location You’ll Love
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41:15Our guest, Anita Ahiadormey, is an international travel professional who’s lived in and visited many countries around the world. In this episode, she shares her expert recommendations for scouting a location—and explains why treating your scouting trip like a vacation can steer you wrong. Quote “When we move, there are real consequences to our acti…
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In the final episode of season 6 of Flourish in the Foreign, host Christine Job engages with her audience through an Ask Me Anything (AMA) session. With this 151st episode, Christine addresses questions about moving abroad as a creative, navigating corporate jobs overseas, managing finances internationally, and handling partner hesitations about re…
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From Detroit to Valencia with Ava LaTanya Hilton
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1:09:10In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Ava LaTanya Hilton shares her remarkable journey from growing up in Detroit during the height of Motown to living in Valencia, Spain. She reflects on the challenges and triumphs of her childhood, pivotal experiences like her senior class trip abroad, her academic and professional accomplishments, and the …
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Embracing a Creative Life in Malaga, Spain with Lori L. Tharps: Aging Abroad
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1:22:34Special Series: Aging Abroad In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, past podcast guest Lori L.Tharps shares her journey of moving to Spain with her family and the challenges and triumphs they faced over the years. She reflects on her son's educational struggles and successes, her daughter's adaptation to Spanish life, and the cultural differen…
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Reading As A Pathway to Wellness with Emely Rumble of "Bibliotherapy in the Bronx"
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1:00:51In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Emily Rumble, a bibliotherapist and author of "Bibliotherapy in the Bronx", explores the concept of bibliotherapy, the history and role of literature in emotional healing, and provides book prescriptions for life abroad. Order Bibliotherapy in the Bronx here *: https://bookshop.org/p/books/bibliotherapy-i…
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"Doing Italy" with Thea Duncan in Milan
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1:13:59In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Thea discusses her journey from studying abroad to living in Italy. She shares her experiences navigating the Italian health system during her pregnancy, the challenges and joys of raising a bilingual and multicultural child, and her entrepreneurial journey of helping others move to Italy. This Episode Co…
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International Life and Identity in Cork, Ireland with Heather Thomas
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1:06:57In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Heather shares her story of living abroad for over six years in countries like Japan, Australia, and Ireland. She also explores themes of identity, wellness, and the difficulties of reintegrating into the U.S. after living abroad. This Episode Covers: Life in Japan: First Impressions and Experiences Retur…
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“Surviving Paris” with Robin Allison Davis
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1:07:54In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Robin Allison Davis, details her decision to move abroad, her experience of adapting to life in Paris, her battle with breast cancer, and the importance of community and support systems. Robin also touches on dating in Paris and gaining French citizenship. Her memoir, 'Surviving Paris: A Memoir of Healing…
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Navigating Black European Identity in Southern Italy with Emmanuelle Maréchal
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1:05:11In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Emmanuelle, a French-Cameroonian woman living in South Italy shares her experiences growing up in Bordeaux, France, and studying Italian, which led her to move to Italy. She discusses her time in Bologna and her observations on race and identity in different European countries, including France, Germany, …
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Finding Home Abroad Through Fashion and Wellness in Paris with Adriel Sanders
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1:19:16In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Adriel Sanders, a fashion enthusiast living in Paris, shares her journey from St. Louis, Missouri to Paris, including her struggle with a career in law, a life-changing brain injury, and the bold decision to move abroad. She discusses the cultural adjustments, her experiences with fashion in Paris, and th…
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Embracing Unexpected Journeys in Turkey, Greece and The Netherlands with Artemis Peacocke
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1:14:09In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Artemis Peacocke shares her incredible journey of living abroad across multiple countries, including Turkey, Greece, and the Netherlands. She discusses her upbringing, the challenges she faced with bureaucracy and healthcare, the process of learning languages, and how her experiences have shaped her ident…
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Navigating Identity and Wellness from Suriname to Spain with Jo-Ann With
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1:00:44In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, we delve into the story of Jo-Ann, a 30-year-old Black Surinamese Dutch woman currently living in Amsterdam. Jo-Ann shares her complex journey from her hometown in Culemborg, the challenges of racial identity, and her decision to move abroad to Spain. She discusses the intricacies of building community, h…
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40 Years of Pursuing Passions and Finding Wellness in Mallorca with Michele McCain: Aging Abroad
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55:57Special Series: Aging Abroad In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Michele McCain who has spent nearly 40 years living in Spain, shares her incredible journey from Brooklyn to Europe, where she has thrived as an entertainer, motivational speaker, and thought leader. She discusses her early influences, her bold decision to stay abroad, and the…
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Navigating Aging and Finances with Lisa R. Mitchell: Aging Abroad
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57:48Special Series: Aging Abroad In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, previous guest Lisa R. Mitchell, a seasoned international banker, discusses critical aspects of aging abroad. Lisa shares her insights on financial planning, healthcare considerations, retirement strategies, global inflation, and the impact of geopolitics on living a global li…
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Aging & Financial Wellness Abroad in Mexico with Adalia Aborisade from Picky Girl Travels The World: Aging Abroad
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1:03:56Special Series: Aging Abroad In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Adalia Aborisade, a past guest, discusses various aspects of aging and financial wellness while living abroad. Adalia shares her unique experiences from living in multiple countries and the financial strategies she employs as she navigates life outside the U.S. This insightful…
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Raising A Black Son Abroad with Ani Lacy in Bath, England: Aging Abroad
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1:11:14Special Series: Aging Abroad In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Ani Lacy, a previous guest on the show, a previous guest on the show, shares her reflections on aging abroad, raising a son abroad, and the importance of community to have a happy and sustainable life abroad. This Episode Covers: Life in Southern England Health and Community S…
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Redefining Midlife and Wellness in Kenya with Toddre' DaLaura Monier: Aging Abroad
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59:22Special Series: Aging Abroad In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Toddre' DaLaura Monier, a previous guest discusses the nuanced topic of aging abroad. Toddre' shares her experience of living internationally, specifically in Nairobi, and offers insights into the challenges and benefits of aging while living outside one's cultural context. Ex…
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Embracing Life in Antigua with Janice Sutherland: Aging Abroad
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46:54Special Series: Aging Abroad In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Janice Sutherland shares her experiences of living and aging in Antigua after moving from the UK. She discusses her journey from a high-powered career to starting her own business, navigating healthcare, and cultivating wellness in a new environment. Janice also explores theme…
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Season 6 of Flourish in the Foreign launches January 6th, 2025. Flourish in the Foreign is an award-winning podcast that celebrates, elevates, and affirms the voices and stories of Black women living and thriving abroad while exploring living abroad as a pathway to wellness. Join the creator and host, Christine Job, as she investigates the intersec…
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From Peru to the Netherlands: Carolina and Alvaro's Family Journey
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48:21In this episode of Expat Podcast the Netherlands, Michel Daenen has a conversation with Carolina and Alvaro Olivares. The couple lived together with their three daughters in Peru. When their oldest announced her ambition to study in the Netherlands, they decided to stay together and move with the whole family. They arrived about a half year ago and…
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Lara comes all the way from Brazil to find herself in the Netherlands
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38:03In this episode of Expat Podcast the Netherlands, Michel Daenen has a conversation with Lara Ferreira. Lara is originally from Brazil. She lived in the UK and Sweden before she chose to relocate to the Netherlands as she loves the Dutch way of life. She feels at home in Amsterdam and after a career in the corporate world as marketing expert, she to…
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Soyinka loves their family life in the Netherlands
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38:29In this episode of Expat Podcast the Netherlands, Michel Daenen has a conversation with Soyinka Majumder. Soyinka is a big data specialist. The Dutch company Thuisbezorgd.nl connected with him through LinkedIn and offered him a job. This opportunity led him and his wife Rimi to relocate from Delhi to Amsterdam. With an open-minded approach, they su…
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Valencia Floods, the US Elections & Processing It All
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1:09:38In this special bonus episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Christine Job reflects on the devastating floods in Valencia and the impact of the 2024 US elections. After a period of processing, she shares her personal experience navigating these unprecedented events, and how community, resilience, and strategic thinking play a crucial role in uncertain…
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Siddharth is a proactive expat spouse from India
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37:20In this episode of Expat Podcast the Netherlands, Michel Daenen has a conversation with Siddharth Gupta. Siddharth had a successful career in India when his wife got a job offer in the Netherlands. When that offer turned into a permanent contract, they decided that Siddharth would leave it all behind and move to the Netherlands as well, so they cou…
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Chris takes a journey of discovery in Amsterdam
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35:23In this episode of Expat Podcast the Netherlands, Michel Daenen has a conversation with Christopher McCabe. Chris is an American attorney who has been wondering about moving to the Netherlands for quite some time. To make sure relocating is a good decision he made a preview trip to Amsterdam. This interview was recorded during that trip when Chris …
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What is the Soft Life, Soft Business Approach?
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43:44LIMITED SERIES Discover the concept of Soft Life and Soft Business, and how it can shape your life abroad—freeing you from toxic work cultures and creating a sustainable, fulfilling business that finances your ideal lifestyle. We’ll explore how this philosophy helps Black women entrepreneurs break away from stress-inducing hustle culture, build bus…
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Ida finds healing in the 'Dutch Mountains'
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45:23In this episode of Expat Podcast the Netherlands, Michel Daenen has a conversation with Ida Fischer, who lives in the Netherlands with her Dutch husband and 3 children. Ida grew up in the Rocky Mountains of Montana in the USA. After deciding to settle in the Netherlands with her family, she felt out of place and struggled to adapt. Unable to reloca…
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Living Abroad as a Form of Liberation for Black Women
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28:55LIMITED SERIES Is living abroad truly liberating for Black women, or is it another space where we must navigate systemic barriers? This episode delves into the potential of international living as a path to personal and professional freedom, and the unique challenges that Black women face. We will explore how to redefine liberation abroad on your t…
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Honoring Your Ancestors by Cultivating a Life Well-Lived Abroad
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27:47LIMITED SERIES Living abroad with intention can be a powerful way to honor your lineage and your ancestors. In this episode, we’ll explore how your decision to cultivate a life well-lived, whether domestically or abroad, can serve as a way of honoring those who came before you. By embracing freedom, joy, and wellness, you continue the legacy of res…
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Community Abroad: It’s Not Found, It’s Built
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40:09LIMITED SERIES Community is not something you find; it’s something you build, especially when living abroad. In this episode, we’ll explore the realities of feeling isolated in a new country and the steps you can take to create and nurture a meaningful community. You’ll learn practical strategies for identifying like-minded individuals, initiating …
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Why Your Love Life May Not Be Thriving Abroad
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31:01LIMITED SERIES Dating abroad can come with its own set of unique challenges, from cultural differences to language barriers. In this episode, we dive into the common reasons why your love life may not be thriving abroad, including holding onto dating expectations from your home country, navigating the line between being revered and fetishized, deal…
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LIMITED SERIES As we near the end of the year, it's time for a deep introspection. Are you just surviving, or are you truly flourishing abroad? This episode dives into the concept of cultivating a life well-lived vs. merely existing in a new country. We’ll discuss how to assess where you are right now, using specific tools and methods to help you r…
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In this bonus episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Christine shares part 3 of the Wellness Abroad series. Listen to heartfelt stories from past guests about their unique wellness journeys while living abroad. Learn how moving to a different country has prompted each of them to redefine and enrich their approach to wellness for happiness and longevit…
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Greek Erika loves the Dutch landscape, culture and even the climate
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44:33In this episode of Expat Podcast the Netherlands, Michel Daenen has a conversation with Erika Kataveli, who lives in the Netherlands since May 2023. Erika is from Greece and moved to the Netherlands to work in sales for the Rotterdam School of Management, Erasmus University. Her first year in the Netherlands has been a challenge. Not because she di…
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A journey to leadership: a chat with visionary leader and role model Raj Bhogal.
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58:52A journey to leadership; a chat with visionary global leader and role model Raj Bhogal, currently @Jazz Pharmaceuticals strategising and making things happen! This is a wonderful discussion highlighting how to drive forward your career and create opportunities for yourself. However, there is so much more that we cover in this episode and some of th…
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In this bonus episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Christine shares part 2 of the Wellness Abroad series. Listen to heartfelt stories from past guests about their unique wellness journeys while living abroad. Learn how moving to a different country has prompted each of them to redefine and enrich their approach to wellness for happiness and longevit…
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Dutch adventures with Jayita: Life, Business, and Tips
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36:13In this episode of Expat Podcast the Netherlands, Michel Daenen has a conversation with Jayita Datta, who resides in the Netherlands with her husband and their14-year-old son. Originally from Agartala, in Northeast India, Jayita moved to the Netherlands in 2013 to join her husband who found a job after his Dutch MBA. Throughout the interview, she p…
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The Human Leader: Bold Moves and Values-Driven Leadership with Matt Walz, CEO at Trialbee
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45:59Thank you for joining me for the grand return of the podcast, and I am delighted to share this "chat" with Matt Walz, CEO of Trialbee an all-round awesome human. There is something for everyone in this episode, however, as a teaser here are some of the key topics that jumped out for me: Matt's career story from Tech > Clinical Trials How to introdu…
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In this bonus episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Christine shares part 1 of the Wellness Abroad series. Listen to heartfelt stories from past guests about their unique wellness journeys while living abroad. Learn how moving to a different country has prompted each of them to redefine and enrich their approach to wellness for happiness and longevit…
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In this last episode of Season 5 of Flourish in the Foreign, Christine answers audience questions. The podcast will be on hiatus for the foreseeable future, so please listen (re-listen) to the extensive archive. This Episode Covers: Christine's Top 2024 Living Abroad Locations Advice for Solo Travelers How to Find A Therapist Abroad Advice for Youn…
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Tapping into Intuition with Tonya Melendez in Mexico
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51:15In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Tonya Melendez shares how she has used her intuition to lead her in her life abroad for 10+ years. She also shares tips for honing your intuition and using it to lead you successfully abroad. This Episode Covers: Living in Spain Moving to Mexico Harnessing the Power of Your Intuition And so much more! Epi…
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Cape Town & San Miguel de Allende with Tayler Ava Friar
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1:42:32In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Tayler Ava Friar shares her story of how living abroad for 10+ years — from Argentina to England to Vietnam to Spain to South Africa and Mexico—has contributed to her professional development and creative evolution. This Episode Covers: Studying Abroad in Buenos Aires Attending Graduate School in London T…
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Cultivating Longevity in Munich, Germany with Eleanor Mayrhofer
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1:08:01In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Eleanor Mayrhofer shares her story of living abroad in Germany for nearly 25 years-- from corporate life to freelancer and business owner and from dating abroad to intercultural marriage and motherhood in Germany. This Episode Covers: Navigating German Immigration Career in Design in Germany Working in Co…
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Medellin, Johannesburg, Istanbul and Nairobi with Nikki Faye Tillery
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1:17:05In this episode of Flourish in the Foreign, Nikki Faye Tillery shares her story of how grief led her to an adventurous life abroad and how she ended up calling Colombia, South Africa, Turkey, and Kenya home. This Episode Covers: Studying Law in London Living in Medellin Living in Johannesburg Living in Istanbul Living in Nairobi Becoming an Interna…
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