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#184 – Rachel Cherry and Alex Aspinall on the State of WordPress in Higher Education
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46:51In this episode, Nathan Wrigley interviews Rachel Cherry (founder of WP Campus) and Alex Aspinall (Human Made) about the state of WordPress in higher education. They discuss the WP Campus organisation, its mission to support WordPress users in higher ed, insights from a new research report, ongoing challenges like limited resources and slow adoptio…
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#185 – Mary Ann Aschenbrenner on Switching Clients From Classic to Block Themes
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34:25In this WP Tavern episode, Nathan Wrigley interviews Mary Ann Aschenbrenner at WordCamp US 2025 about transitioning websites from classic to block themes in WordPress. Mary Ann shares her journey from community activism to web design, explains the benefits of block themes, including easier maintenance and better SEO, and provides a step-by-step gui…
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#183 – Destiny Kanno, Isotta Peira and Anand Upadhyay on how WordPress is shaping the future of education for students worldwide
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1:03:45In this WP Tavern episode, host Nathan Wrigley talks with Destiny Kanno, Isotta Peira, and Anand Upadhyay about WordPress’s growing role in education. They discuss WP Campus Connect, which brings free, hands-on WordPress workshops to schools and universities, helping students develop valuable tech skills and connect with career opportunities. Anand…
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#182 – Michelle Frechette and Jonathan Desrosiers on the story of .com and .org
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47:34On the podcast today we have Michelle Frechette and Jonathan Desrosiers, and we're here to unravel the key differences between WordPress.com and WordPress.org. We explore the historical development, technical distinctions, and user experiences of both platforms, including issues of ownership, ease-of-use, open-source philosophy, community contribut…
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#181 – Bob Dunn on rebranding Do the Woo and growing openchannels.fm
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35:34In this episode, Nathan Wrigley interviews Bob Dunn about his journey from hosting Do the Woo, a WooCommerce-focused podcast, to launching OpenChannels.fm, a broader podcast network covering the open web, open source, and technology makers. Bob discusses the motivations behind the rebrand, his multi-channel and multi-host format, challenges with ma…
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#180 – Karla Campos on organising WordCamp US
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36:53In this episode, Nathan Wrigley talks with Karla Campos, a lead organiser for WordCamp US 2025 in Portland. Karla shares her journey into organising the flagship event, describing the volunteer-driven, time-intensive process, and how her background in marketing and large-scale event planning helps. They discuss event logistics, the role of producti…
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#179 – Mariya Moeva on the Impact of Google’s SiteKit on WordPress
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35:08In this episode, Nathan Wrigley talks with Mariya Moeva from Google about Site Kit, Google's official WordPress plugin. Mariya shares her journey from studying classical Japanese literature to leading SiteKit's development, emphasising its goal of making Google tools accessible and easy for WordPress users. They discuss how Site Kit integrates serv…
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#178 – Adam Silverstein Explores Transformative Browser Features Impacting WordPress Sites
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55:47On the podcast today we have Adam Silverstein. He's here to discuss how new browser APIs and web technologies are transforming the WordPress experience. Adam explains advancements like the Popover API, Scroll Animations, CSS carousels, customisable selects, view transitions, and speculative loading, many of which reduce reliance on heavy JavaScript…
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#177 – Charlotte Bax on Reducing Your Website’s Carbon Footprint
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38:10In this episode, Nathan Wrigley talks with Charlotte Bax at WordCamp Europe about making websites more environmentally sustainable. Charlotte shares her journey into sustainable web design, offers practical advice on reducing a website’s carbon footprint, like choosing green web hosting, optimising images, improving UX, applying caching, and managi…
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#176 – Héctor de Prada on the Power of Local WordPress Meetups in Community Building
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36:03On the podcast today Nathan Wrigley talks with Héctor de Prada, co-founder of Modular DS and an organiser of the WordPress Meetup in León, Spain. Héctor shares his motivations for fostering local WordPress communities, details how the team organises popular, well-attended Meetups, and explains their strategies for inclusive topics, sponsorship, and…
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#175 – Jennifer Schumacher on Learning From Agency Mistakes
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37:26On the podcast today we have Jennifer Schumacher. Jennifer shares her journey from freelance web developer to agency leader, focusing on the mistakes agencies often make, like unbillable support hours, poor design handoffs, and scope creep, and how to learn from them. She emphasises the importance of process improvement, mental health, honest refle…
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#174 – Joe Dolson and Jonathan Desrosiers on WordPress Accessibility: Core Commitment or Canonical Plugin
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45:36On the podcast today we have Joe Dolson and Jonathan Desrosiers. We're talking about the concept of canonical plugins in WordPress, focusing on accessibility. We discuss what canonical plugins are, their potential benefits and drawbacks, and whether accessibility features should move from Core to a dedicated plugin. The conversation explores the co…
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#173 – Tom Willmot and Jon Ang on Building a Global Bank Website
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41:32On the podcast today we have Tom Willmot and Jon Ang. This episode was recorded at WordCamp Europe, and we're talk about how Human Made built and manage the Standard Chartered Bank’s global WordPress platform. We discuss the scale and complexity of serving 70 countries, 500+ CMS users, and hundreds of millions of monthly page views, concentrating u…
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#172 – Reyes Martínez and Héctor De Prada on Website Maintenance for WordPress Agencies and Freelancers
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42:51On the podcast today we have Reyes Martínez and Héctor De Prada. They're here to discuss the essential tasks involved in maintaining multiple WordPress websites, especially for freelancers and agencies. They explore the importance of ongoing updates, security, backups, uptime monitoring, and client education, highlighting proactive website care as …
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#171 – Felix Arntz on How Speculative Loading Is Speeding Up Your WordPress Website
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48:15On the podcast today we have Felix Arntz who discusses speculative loading, a new WordPress 6.8 feature designed to make websites faster by preloading pages before users navigate to them. Felix explains how it works, why WordPress uses a conservative default setting for broad compatibility, and how more eager configurations are possible with plugin…
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#170 – Chris Reynolds on WordPress and Drupal: Differences and Similarities
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48:10On the podcast today we have Chris Reynolds. He's a developer advocate at Pantheon, and we're talking about the similarities and differences between the WordPress and Drupal communities. Chris discusses Pantheon's dual focus on both platforms, their approaches to managed hosting, and community event structures. The conversation covers Drupal’s rece…
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#169 – Wes Tatters on the Evolution of Internet Communities and WordPress Open Source
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44:11On the podcast today we have Wes Tatters, and he's here to discuss the evolution of the internet, from early tech days and community-building on platforms like CompuServe, to the emergence of open-source projects and the rise of WordPress. Wes reflects on the transition from closed platforms to owning content and highlights the importance, and chal…
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#168 – Hari Shanker on Understanding and Showing WordPress Contributions
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39:00In this episode, I talk with Hari Shanker about the thriving WordPress community in India, and the innovative WordPress Contribution Health Dashboards project. Hari discusses his background, the growth of WordPress among India’s youth, challenges in tracking contributions across teams, and the effort to build visual dashboards to help all contribut…
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#167 – Bud Kraus on Podcasting and Finding Inspiration in WordPress Stories
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35:53On the podcast today we have Bud Kraus. He's a WordPress educator, content creator, and host of the “Seriously, BUD?” podcast. Bud shares his journey from web design to WordPress teaching, explaining what inspired his transition toward podcasting and content creation. We discuss Bud’s show format, tech stack, and why he values unexpected, personali…
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#166 – Ryan Welcher on What’s New for Developers
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42:42On the podcast today we have Ryan Welcher. This was recorded at WordCamp Asia in Manila, and centres upon his developer relations work with Automattic, and his popular "Block Developer Cookbook" workshop. We discuss some recent new features in WordPress Core, including the Block Bindings API, Plugin Template Registration API, and Data Views, as wel…
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#165 – Aaron D. Campbell Why Open Standards and WordPress Matter
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41:32On the podcast today we have Aaron D. Campbell, and we're here to talk about the significance of open standards and open source in the digital world. Aaron shares his 18-year journey contributing to WordPress, and expresses excitement about its future as an open, viable counterbalance to closed platforms. We discuss the history and current state of…
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#164 – Milana Cap on the Interactivity and HTML APIs, and Their Enormous Potential
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40:49On the podcast today we have Milana Cap, and she's here to talk about her presentation at WordCamp Asia in Manila, titled "WordPress gems for developers: fresh new features you'll actually want to use." Milana, a WordPress Engineer at XWP from Serbia, discusses the significance of the Interactivity API and HTML API in modern WordPress development. …
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#163 – Birgit Pauli-Haack on the Magic of the WordPress Playground
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41:59On the podcast today we have Birgit Pauli-Haack who I spoke to at WordCamp Asia. We explore WordPress Playground, a transformative tool allowing users to launch a WordPress instance directly in their browsers without needing a server, PHP, or a database. Users can test plugins, themes, and content seamlessly. We also discuss the potential for Bluep…
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#162 – Jo Minney on Website Usability Testing for WordPress Projects
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41:15In this episode recorded at WordCamp Asia, Jo Minney discusses her expertise in usability testing. She highlights the importance of usability for improving user experience and conversion rates, differentiating it from user acceptance testing. Jo shares insights on conducting cost-effective usability tests, focusing on qualitative data and involving…
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#161 – Robert Jacobi on WordPress, Security, and the OSI Model
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43:44On the podcast today we have Robert Jacobi and he's here to talk about his tech journey, and his role at Black Wall, formerly BotGuard. We talk about the OSI model, explaining how computer networks communicate through seven layers, from application to physical. Robert shares insights into Black Wall's focus on preventing bot attacks at a layer far …
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#160 – Rahul Bansal on Success in Enterprise WordPress
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46:28On the podcast today we have Rahul Bansal, CEO of rtCamp. He's here to talk about his journey from a blogger to running a large enterprise WordPress agency. Rahul discusses the nuances of working with enterprise clients, emphasising scalability and security. We get into rtCamp's growth, client acquisition strategies, and their unique training initi…
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#159 – James Kemp on WooCommerce Innovations and Trends in Selling Online
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39:09On the podcast today we have James Kemp, the Core Product Lead for WooCommerce at Automattic. James discusses his role in overseeing the Woo product, emphasising improvements and innovations in WooCommerce. He outlines the platform's significant market share, driving e-commerce strategies for various scales of businesses. The discussion also covers…
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#158 – John Overall on How Podcasting Shaped His WordPress Journey
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37:07On the podcast today we have John Overall, a veteran podcaster in the WordPress space. We discuss John's journey in podcasting, starting with WP Plugins A to Z. John shares insights on the evolution of podcasting and WordPress, emphasising the importance of audio quality and the community's role in WordPress's growth. He talks about involving his d…
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#157 – Katie Keith on the Move From Agency Owner to WordPress Theme Development to Plugin Success
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41:21On the podcast today we have Katie Keith, the founder and CEO of Barn2 Plugins. Katie shares her journey from running a WordPress agency to transitioning into a successful WordPress plugin company specialising in WooCommerce and other plugins. She discusses the challenges and strategies involved in this transition, including the initial successes a…
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#156 – Derek Ashauer on Analytics Options and Privacy Challenges
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43:10On the podcast today we have Derek Ashauer. Derek, who transitioned from freelancing to creating WordPress plugins like Sunshine Photo Cart and Conversion Bridge, discusses the impact of European privacy laws, the limitations of Google Analytics, and the rise of privacy-focused analytics tools like Fathom and Plausible. He emphasises the ease and n…
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