Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discuss what they're finding on the edges of the internet + the latest in business, technology and memes. Let us know what you think on Twitter: @bzaidi @trungtphan @jackbutcher @niapodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Pathless Path is hosted by Paul Millerd - a writer, creator, and consultant. He has conversations with freelancers, self-employed entrepreneurs, creators, and vagabonds who share their perspectives on their relationship with work, burnout, bootstrapping, indie hacking, remote work, reinvention, creativity, sabbaticals, leisure, self-employment, unconventional living, and digital nomadism. Past guests include Ali Abdaal, Russ Roberts, Kevin Kelly, Khe Hy, David Senra, Derek Sivers, Joe Hu ...
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240: Humanoids at Home, Bitcoin's Silent IPO, Naming is Distribution & ZIRP Fake History
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1:15:45The NIA boys discuss Humanoids at Home, Bitcoin's Silent IPO, Naming is Distribution & ZIRP Fake History Timestamps (00:00:00) - Intro (00:01:51) - Meme of the Week (00:02:59) - Humanoids at Home (00:18:06) - Bitcoin's Silent IPO (00:35:31) - Naming is Distribution (00:45:02) - ZIRP Fake History (01:04:42) - UK Economic Decline? What Is Not Investm…
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239: Amazon Automation & Job Cuts, Gold Drops, Debasement Trade, AI Music & NBA Betting Scandal
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51:53The NIA boys discuss Amazon Automation & Job Cuts, Gold Drops, Debasement Trade, AI Music & NBA Betting Scandal Timestamps (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:54) - Meme of the Week (00:03:39) - Amazon Automation & Job Cuts (00:23:06) - Gold Drops & Debasement Trade (00:28:47) - AI Music (00:40:51) - NBA Betting Scandal What Is Not Investment Advice? Every w…
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238: Coinbase Buys Cobie’s Echo ($375M) + UpOnly Podcast NFT ($25M), Walmart vs. Amazon & ChatGPT Launches Browser
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53:03The NIA boys discuss Coinbase Buys Cobie’s Echo ($375M) + UpOnly NFT ($25M), Walmart vs. Amazon & ChatGPT Browser Timestamps (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:48) - UpOnly NFT ($25M) (00:16:57) - Coinbase Buys Cobie’s Echo ($375M) (00:30:08) - Walmart vs. Amazon & ChatGPT Browser What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung …
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237: OpenAI’s $1T In Chip Deals, Crypto Sell Off & The Battle For Rare Earths
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58:22The NIA boys discuss OpenAI’s $1T In Chip Deals, Crypto Sell Off & The Battle For Rare Earths Timestamps (00:00:00) - Intro (00:05:26) - OpenAI’s $1T In Chip Deals (00:32:04) - Crypto Sell Off (00:44:14) - The Battle For Rare Earths (00:56:36) - Anduril's EagleEye What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan dis…
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236: Sora, Open AI Commerce, AI Deals (AMD, xAI, Nvidia), AI vs. Dotcom Bubble, Debasement Trade & Polymarket Deal
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1:18:34The NIA boys discuss Sora, Open AI Commerce, AI Deals (AMD, xAI, Nvidia), AI vs. Dotcom Bubble, Debasement Trade & Polymarket Deal Timestamps (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:44) - Sora (00:17:51) - Open AI Commerce (00:29:55) - AI Deals (AMD, xAI, Nvidia) (00:39:58) - AI vs. Dotcom Bubble (01:01:02) - Debasement Trade (01:12:40) - Polymarket Deal What Is…
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235: Meta Vibes (AI Videos), TikTok’s $14B Sale, EA’s $55B Takeover & Gold Flips US Treasuries
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54:24The NIA boys discuss Meta Vibes (AI Videos), TikTok’s $14B Sale, EA’s $55B Takeover & Gold Flips US Treasuries Timestamps (00:00:00) - Intro (00:04:29) - Meta Vibes (AI Videos) (00:18:44) - TikTok’s $14B Sale (00:30:02) - EA’s $55B Takeover (00:41:38) - Gold Flips US Treasuries What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & …
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234: Nvidia’s $100B OpenAI Deal, Meta Ray-Ban Display & Oura’s $10B Valuation
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1:02:11The NIA boys discuss Nvidia’s $100B OpenAI Deal, Meta Ray-Ban Display & Oura’s $10B Valuation Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:05:33) - Nvidia’s $100B OpenAI Deal (00:33:38) - Meta Ray-Ban Display (00:55:01) - Oura’s $10B Valuation What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discuss what they're finding on th…
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233: SpaceX $17B Deal, Tesla Bull Case, Oracle’s $1T AI Run, Gas Wars Release & PunkStrategy
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1:03:35The NIA Boys Discuss SpaceX’s $17B Deal, Tesla Bull Case, Oracle’s $1T AI Run, Gas Wars Release & PunkStrategy Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:11) - SpaceX $17B Deal (00:16:38) - Tesla Bull Case (00:24:13) - Oracle’s $1T AI Run (00:47:22) - Gas Wars Release (00:52:49) - PunkStrategy What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bil…
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232: Google Monopoly Ruling, Sam Altman’s WorldCoin & The New iPhones
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52:18The NIA boys discuss the Google Monopoly Ruling, Sam Altman’s WorldCoin & The New iPhones Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:47) - Google Monopoly Ruling (00:32:33) - Sam Altman’s WorldCoin (00:43:28) - The New iPhones What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discuss what they're finding on the edges of t…
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Click here to watch a video of this episode. Mentioned in the episode Andrew Taggart’s website Pathways to the Dao (Andrew’s Substack) Leisure: The Basis of Culture by Josef Pieper Secular Monks (article by Andrew Taggart) Why Buddhism is True by Robert Wright Pierre Hadot (Philosophy as a Way of Life) The Pathless Path by Paul Millerd (00:00) - In…
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AMA Episode 200 - I answer questions on parenting, courage, being a prophet, taking risks, and money
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29:55I took questions from people for episode 200. Enjoy! Click here to watch a video of this episode. (00:00) - Introduction and Podcast Background (03:08) - Future of Education and Teaching (05:29) - Thoughts on Being a Prophet (06:09) - Current Pulling Forces and Changes (08:30) - Special Hardcover Edition Plans (10:05) - Managing Financial Anxiety (…
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231: US vs. Global Stocks, Gen-Z Trends, Why People Stopped Drinking Alcohol & Does "Social Media” Exist?
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37:26The NIA boys discuss US vs. Global Stocks, Gen-Z Trends, Why People Stopped Drinking Alcohol & Does "Social Media” Exist? Timestamps: 00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:37) - US vs. Global Stocks (00:11:58) - Gen-Z Trends (00:19:24) -Why People Stopped Drinking Alcohol (00:31:54) - Does "Social Media” Exist? What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Bu…
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230: Yeezy & Balaji Coin, Zora, Soho House ~$3B PE Deal & Shark Ninja’s $16B Empire
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54:22The NIA boys discuss Yeezy & Balaji Coin, Zora, Soho House ~$3B PE Deal & Shark Ninja’s $16B Empire Timestamps: 00:00:00) - Intro (00:00:46) - Zora and Balaji Coin (00:16:23) - Yeezy Coin (00:25:32) - Top 10 Assets (Balaji Tweet) (00:34:57) - Soho House ~$3B PE Deal (00:44:22) - Shark Ninja’s $16B Empire What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, J…
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How To Retire Well: Dennis Owen on Moving Abroad, Building Community, Volunteering, Adapting to New Cultures, Creating Routine, Consulting After Retirement, Managing Money Mindset Shifts, Staying Current ...
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1:02:39In this episode, I talk with Dennis Owen about his journey from a long career in the airline industry to building a purposeful and active retirement in Chiang Mai, Thailand. Dennis shares how he intentionally “retired to” a new life filled with volunteering, consulting, and community involvement, rather than just leaving work behind. We discuss the…
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229: Oasis Concert, Chamath Launching SPAC, Intel Turnaround (?) & How The South Park Guys Became Billionaires
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49:01The NIA boys discuss Oasis Concert, Chamath Launching S.P.A.C., Intel Turnaround (?) & How The South Park Guys Became Billionaires Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:01:39) - Oasis Concert (00:05:37) - Chamath Launching S.P.A.C. (00:16:23) - Intel Turnaround (?) (00:26:01) - How The South Park Guys Became Billionaires What Is Not Investment Advice?…
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228: GPT-5, ChatGPT vs. Claude, AI Psychosis, Nvidia 15% Export Tax & Harvard Buys Bitcoin
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1:00:16The NIA boys discuss GPT-5, ChatGPT vs. Claude, AI Psychosis, Nvidia 15% Export Tax & Harvard Buys Bitcoin Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:20) - GPT-5 (00:20:34) - ChatGPT vs. Claude (00:29:20) - Nvidia 15% Export Tax (00:49:56) - Harvard Buys Bitcoin What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discuss wh…
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227: Singapore & Vietnam’s Growth, Figma IPO, Airport Lounges & Dishoom’s Genius Marketing
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1:10:41The NIA boys discuss Singapore & Vietnam’s Growth, Figma IPO, Airport Lounges & Dishoom’s Genius Marketing Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:09) - Vietnam’s Growth/Trung’s Vaca (00:24:21) - Singapore’s Growth (00:34:43) - Airport Lounges (00:49:49) - Figma IPO (01:01:19) - Dishoom’s Genius Marketing What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Ja…
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Worldschooling 2.0: Rekha Magon on Location-Independent Schooling, co-founding Boundless Life, Lessons during bed rest, rethinking family in a digital age, travel, freedom, and raising global citizens
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1:05:54In this video, I talk with Rekha about Boundless Life and the idea of location-independent education. We cover her background, what led her to start Boundless Life, and how the program works for families who want a different approach to learning and community. For more: Boundless Life Boundless Education Rekha on LinkedIn Rekha on Instagram (00:00)…
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226: Future of Substack, Support From Partner, Value of Names & Rebooting The UK
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59:50The NIA boys discuss the Future of Substack, Support From Partner, Value of Names & Rebooting The UK Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:34) - Future of Substack (00:20:43) - Support From Partner (00:31:05) - Value of Names (00:48:50) - Rebooting The UK What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discuss what…
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The Inner Game of Work: Pranab Sachi on Codependent Origination, Rob Burbea, Quake Books, Attentional Co-Piloting, Michael Taft, and "Non-Success"
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1:21:31In this episode, I interview my friend Pranab Saachi, and we get specific about the ideas and influences that have shaped his thinking. We talk about codependent origination from Buddhist philosophy, the concept of “quake books” that have shifted his worldview, and his own approach to “attentional co-piloting” as a practical alternative to traditio…
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225: What’s Driving ETH Price, Bitcoin All Time High, Treasury Company Playbook, Stablecoin Bill & Crypto Collateral Loans
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1:02:57The NIA boys discuss What’s Driving ETH Price, Bitcoin All Time High, Treasury Company Playbook, Stablecoin Bill & Crypto Collateral Loans Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:01:59) - What’s Driving ETH Price (00:06:44) - Stablecoin Bill and Possible Impact (00:15:11) - Treasury Company Playbook (00:18:37) - ETH Narrative Changing (00:25:42) - ETH E…
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How much money do you need to quit? I debate with Nick Maggiulli (and rabbit holes: wealth > income, why COAST FIRE rocks, and more...)
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1:19:11In this episode, I'm pumped to welcome back Nick Maggiulli to the podcast (https://youtu.be/deMXbaI-Ir4). We dive into various topics about money and financial independence, with a focus on Nick's endorsement of the 'COAST Fire' strategy, something I accidentally embraced after quitting my job. Nick shares his personal stories of financial challeng…
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224: AMA - Meeting Historical Figures, PHDs vs AI, Simulation Theory, Fav 90s Media, & Routines
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1:03:11The NIA boys do an AMA where they discuss Historical Figures they'd like to meet, PHDs vs AI, Simulation Theory, Fav 90s Media, Life Swap, Traits From Parents & Routines Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:05) - Life Swap (00:04:44) - Meeting Historical Figures (00:13:01) - PHDs vs AI (00:31:45) - Traits From Parents (00:35:09) - Fav 90s Media (0…
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223: AMA - China vs. US Energy, Population Decline, Tech Layoff Drivers & Future of AI Podcasting
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1:03:17The NIA boys do an AMA where they discuss China vs. US Energy, Population Decline, Tech Layoff Drivers & Future of AI Podcasting Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:01:12) - China vs. US Energy (00:16:48) - Population Decline (00:25:11) - Tech Layoff Drivers (00:46:43) - Future of AI Podcasting What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher…
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Following Your Inner Compass - Lawrence Yeo on his creative journey, sharing ideas, self-publishing, and playing the long game
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1:11:12Lawrence is one of my favorite creators. He shares with passion, vulnerability and care. I chatted with Lawrence Yeo about his new book, 'The Inner Compass,' exploring themes of self-reflection, creativity, and the journey of writing and self-publishing. We discuss the importance of engaging with the world to gain a deeper understanding of oneself,…
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222: AMA - 1% Products, Dream Businesses, Disagreements, BYD vs. Tesla & is UBI a Good Idea?
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42:55The NIA boys do an AMA where they discuss 1% Products, Dream Businesses, Disagreements, BYD vs. Tesla & is UBI a Good Idea? Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:01:28) - 1% Products (00:08:37) - Dream Businesses (00:17:59) - Disagreements (00:24:27) - BYD vs. Tesla (00:29:44) - is UBI a Good Idea? What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butch…
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Hustle & Flow - Jack Moses on dropping out of school, hustle culture, spiritual paths, finding flow, and travel as transformation
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1:15:22In this episode, I have a conversation with my friend Jack Moses. Three years ago, Jack emailed me after reading my book, declaring he was dropping out of college. Over time, I've been amazed by his life's actions, from embracing hustle culture to diving deep into spirituality. Recently, Jack led a retreat in Thailand, inspiring me with his courage…
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221: Booking: $170B+ A/B Testing Machine & How a $5000 Vegas Bet Saved FedEx
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46:30The NIA boys discuss Booking: $170B+ A/B Testing Machine & How a $5000 Vegas Bet Saved FedEx Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:20) - Booking's $170B+ A/B Testing Machine (00:36:16) - How a $5000 Vegas Bet Saved FedEx What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discuss what they're finding on the edges of th…
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220: Stablecoin Opportunity, Circle’s $25B+ IPO, WhatsApp Gets Ads & Meta’s $15B Scale AI Deal
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1:10:01The NIA boys discuss Stablecoin Opportunity, Circle’s $25B+ IPO, WhatsApp Gets Ads & Meta’s $15B Scale AI Deal Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:09:28) - Stablecoin Opportunity (00:25:50) - Circle’s $25B+ IPO (00:38:52) - Credit Card Points (00:51:37) - WhatsApp Gets Ads (01:03:14) - Meta’s $15B Scale AI Deal What Is Not Investment Advice? Every w…
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219: Apple WWDC Liquid Glass Flop, Hollywood vs. AI, Veo 3 & Elon vs. Trump
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1:01:03The NIA boys discuss Apple WWDC Liquid Glass Flop, Hollywood vs. AI, Veo 3 & Elon vs. Trump Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:04:02) - Apple WWDC Liquid Glass Flop, (00:27:19) - Hollywood vs. Veo3 (00:49:25) - Elon vs. Trump What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discuss what they're finding on the edges …
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218: PSG Win, Dyson’s $20B Run, Mary Meeker’s Trends, Waymo vs. Lyft & $500B+ Middle East AI Deal
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48:51The NIA boys discuss PSG's Win, Dyson’s $20B Run, Mary Meeker’s Trends, Waymo vs. Lyft & $500B+ Middle East AI Deal Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:00:56) - PSG Win (00:07:07) - Dyson’s $20B Run (00:28:12) - Mary Meeker’s Trends (00:35:02) - Waymo vs. Lyft (00:43:09) - $500B+ Middle East AI Deal What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Bu…
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Paul Q&A Episode - Moving to Asia, Parenting, Preparing for Kids, Pathless Hardcover Art Edition
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28:04Personal updates about life, including his recent move back to Asia, reflections on work and career paths, parenting experiences, and insights into education and self-publishing. I share the challenges and joys of parenting, how I think about decisions in regards to kids, and evolving thoughts on publishing and creative projects. Topics 00:00 Intro…
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217: Google I/O Wrap, OpenAI’s $6.4B for Jony Ive & How Apple Fumbled AI
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59:04The NIA boys discuss Google I/O, OpenAI’s $6.4B for Jony Ive & how Apple fumbled AI Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:59) - Meme of the Week (00:05:47) - Google I/O Wrap (00:32:55) - OpenAI’s $6.4B for Jony Ive (00:47:46) - How Apple Fumbled AI What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discuss what they'r…
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216: Burrito Loans, AI Product vs. Distribution, Power Laws in Online Dating
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51:33The NIA boys discuss Burrito Loans, AI Product vs. Distribution, Power Laws in Online Dating Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:01:22) - Meme of the Week (00:02:54) - Burrito Loans (00:18:31) - AI Product vs. Distribution (00:38:46) - Power Laws in Online Dating What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discu…
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215: Rent vs. Buy, ChatGPT in College, OpenAI’s For-Profit Pivot & Is Google Search Cooked?
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1:20:22The NIA boys discuss Rent vs. Buy, ChatGPT in College, OpenAI’s For-Profit Pivot & Is Google Search Cooked? Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:10:27) - Meme of the Week (00:11:10) - Rent vs. Buy (00:16:00) - ChatGPT in College (01:07:30) - OpenAI’s For-Profit Pivot (01:14:00) - Is Google Search Cooked? What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jac…
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Becoming A Writer - Nat Eliason on his upcoming fiction release, traditional publishing vs. self-publishing, AI tools, tinkering, readers, launch plans
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1:16:19Hello! I'm back! Expect a slow ramp, but there are new episodes coming! I talked with Nat Eliason about his journey as a writer, from early experiments with ideas to fully embracing writing as a career. We discussed the challenges and rewards of moving from nonfiction to fiction, the trade-offs between traditional and self-publishing, and the impor…
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214: Warren Buffett 60-Year Run, Berkshire's $150B+ Apple Bet, iPhone App Store Lawsuit and OpenAI's "Glazing" Controversy
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1:34:01The NIA boys discuss Warren Buffett 60-Year Run, Berkshire's $150B+ Apple Bet, iPhone App Store Lawsuit and OpenAI's "Glazing" Controversy Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:06:40) - Meme of the Week (00:07:40) - The Myth of Warren Buffett (00:19:57) - Warren Buffett 60-Year Run (00:31:22) - Berkshire's $150B+ Apple Bet (00:41:01) - The Future of B…
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213: White Lotus Review, Case Against Streaming TV, Favorite Biographies & Business of Casinos
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52:07The NIA boys discuss White Lotus, Case Against Streaming TV, Favorite Biographies & Business of Casinos Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:01:07) - Bilal's TV Recommendation: Adolescence (00:04:30) - Case Against Streaming TV (00:12:07) - White Lotus Review (00:16:49) - Case Against Streaming TV Pt2 (00:28:45) - Favorite Biographies (00:36:55) - Fa…
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212: Meta & Google Antitrust Cases, ChatGPT Memory Implications & Personalized AI Learning
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1:00:27The NIA boys discuss Meta & Google Antitrust Cases, ChatGPT Memory Implications & Personalized AI Learning Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:04:59) - Meme of the Week (00:05:27) - Meta Antitrust Case (00:21:17) - Google Antitrust Case (00:26:57) - Ad Server vs Ad Exchange Market (00:30:17) - Publisher Tools Explained (00:34:46) - Google's Revenue …
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211: NIA 4th Year Anniversary, Tariffs (Bond Yield, Apple/China), LVMH vs. Hermes, Rory Win & Best Comeback Stories
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1:10:28The NIA boys discuss NIA 4th Year Anniversary, Tariffs (Bond Yield, Apple/China), LVMH vs. Hermes, Rory Win & Best Comeback Stories Timestamps: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:01:06) - 4yrs of NIA (00:08:13) - Tariffs (Bond Yield, Apple/China) (00:47:54) - LVMH vs. Hermes (01:04:27) - Rory Win & Best Comebacks What Is Not Investment Advice? Every week, Jack…
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