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Welcome to "Shoving Wilco," a podcast dedicated to celebrating the music of one of the most influential American bands, Wilco. Wilco has been making music for nearly three decades, blending elements of country, rock, alternative, and folk to create a unique sound that has captivated fans around the world. In this podcast, we'll delve into the stories behind the songs, explore the creative process of the band, and celebrate the enduring impact of Wilco's music. Shoving Wilco is hosted by awar ...
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HOP Into Action is a podcast of the broadcast that can be heard on Safety FM. The show is an ongoing discussion about building a better community of practice for people and organizations who want to improve safety, quality and operational excellence using HOP, Learning Teams, 4Ds and other learning framework. The host of the podcast, Brent Sutton, explores through conversation, diversity of thought and reflection the organizational challenges and learning opportunities that can be identified ...
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PAPood 563 - Human Performance, Not Human Error — Todd Conklin on Reframing Safety
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46:34Tiny Todd Conklin joins the No Way Out podcast to explore Human and Organizational Performance (HOP), high-reliability organizing, and how safety emerges from complex systems rather than individual mistakes. They critique traditional investigations, surveys, and risk matrices, and discuss practical ideas for building capacity, worker agency, psycho…
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Twilight Override: Jeff Tweedy’s Triple Album with Mike Conklin
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32:28In this episode of Shoving Wilco, Todd and Tim are joined by Mike Conklin, executive editor of InsideHook, to unpack Jeff Tweedy’s sprawling new triple album, Twilight Override. Conklin has spoken with every member of Jeff’s solo band — Spencer, Sammy, Sima Cunningham, Macie Stewart, and Liam Kazar — as well as Jeff himself, to explore how this gro…
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Welcome to Season 6 and the 127th episode of the podcast show HOP Into Action. Today is part one of a two-part series with Ben Hutchinson. Ben is not only a seasoned senior health and safety leader, but he also has a deep interest in safety research. Ben operates the site safetyinsights.org and is the host of Safe As podcast, where he posts and tal…
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Stop managing by metrics and start managing by meaning
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13:37Welcome to Season 6 and Episode 126 of the HOP Into Action Podcast Series. In this episode, Brent Sutton explores the origins of learning from work and how it became a cornerstone of Human and Organizational Performance. He unpacks why everyday adaptations and weak signals matter, why leadership’s role is less about control and more about curiosity…
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PAPod 564 - Inside Meow Wolf: A Radical Conversation on Safety & Leadership
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24:19Recorded live at Meow Wolf in Santa Fe, this episode features a wide-ranging conversation between Todd and Andy Baker about learning, safety culture, and leadership influence. They dig into HOP and related safety approaches, debate top-down versus middle-out change, discuss the importance of language and unlearning, and explore how to turn belief i…
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Wilco for Audiophiles: A Conversation with Steve Westman
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47:05On this episode of Shoving Wilco, Todd welcomes YouTube creator Steve Westman. Known for his channel The Audiophiles, Westman has built a reputation for his deep dives into vinyl pressings, mastering engineers, and the joy of record collecting. Together, they unpack what it means to experience Wilco on vinyl—why pressing quality matters, which engi…
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On this episode of Shoving Wilco, we sit down with Canadian singer-songwriter Kalle Mattson to talk about Jeff Tweedy’s songwriting. Kalle breaks down what makes Tweedy’s lyrics stand out, from surreal fragments to plainspoken truths. We explore how Wilco has shaped his own music and teaching, and why the songs of Wilco continue to cut so deep. If …
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PAPod 562 - When 'I Forgot' Becomes Fatal: Preventing Children Left in Hot Cars
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25:09This episode examines the growing problem of children accidentally left in hot cars, explains why memory failures can happen to anyone, and argues that punishment is not the solution. It summarizes practical approaches—accepting the risk, assuming "when, not if," using technology and visual reminders, and responding with understanding rather than j…
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PAPod 561 - High Reliability in Action — Turning Surprises into Safer Outcomes
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29:13Todd talks with Lauren Mooney about her book High Reliability in Action and how to translate HRO concepts into practical behaviors. They cover the rise of HRO, the 'Speaking In' approach, nine guiding questions, and the animal avatars that represent attitudes like humility, courage, and curiosity. The episode emphasizes leadership’s role, DIY team …
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PAPOd 560 - When Hospitals Criminalize Error: A Patient Safety Reckoning
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1:00:11This episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast features patient safety leader Lisa Zegan, host of Tales from the Sharp End, in a candid conversation with Todd about the 2017 Vanderbilt medication error and what it reveals about healthcare systems. They explore why criminalizing mistakes harms learning, how design and billing pressures shape…
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PAPod 559 - Exploring the Evolution of Safety Leadership with Tom Krause
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31:16Join Todd as he delves into a captivating discussion with Tom Krause, founder of Behavioral Science Technology, on the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast. This episode unravels the evolution of safety protocols from traditional behavioral-based approaches to modern leadership-driven strategies. Krause shares his journey from pioneering behavioral-b…
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PAPod 558 - Unveiling AI's Hidden Role in Workplace Dynamics
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29:52Welcome to an engaging episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast with your host Todd Conklin. In this episode, Todd delves into a thought-provoking discussion about the evolving role of AI in our workplaces and lives with guest expert Dox Brown, also known as Drew. Together, they explore the intricacies of artificial intelligence beyond sur…
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PAPod 557 - Breaking Paradigms: Why Workers Are Your Greatest Asset
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29:19Welcome to the latest episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast, hosted by Todd Conklin. In this engaging discussion, Todd chats with Jennifer Long about their unexpected journey in writing "Workers Are the Solution, Not the Problem: A Guidebook for Leading Differently." The conversation delves into the transformative insights they discover…
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PAPod 556 - CHOL Live - Inside the Final Episode: A Deep Dive with Shane Bush and Dr. David Woods
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53:02Join Todd Conklin in the final episode of the Pre-Extended Investigation Podcast as he hosts an insightful conversation with Shane Bush and Professor David Woods. This concluding episode offers a compelling discussion on the evolution of safety practices across industries, the impact of leadership on organizational sustainability, and the challenge…
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PAPod 555 - CHOL Live - "Unveiling Future Predictions: Podcast Reflections"
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29:02Join Todd Conklin and Rob Fisher on the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast as they delve into their experiences and reflections from past podcast episodes, discussing the art of leadership and the significance of effective communication with senior leaders. With anecdotes from previous recordings, they explore the value of predictions made unknowin…
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In this episode of Shoving Wilco, Todd and Tim are joined by Dara Weyna and Chad Brooks for a conversation that you've probably had! What three Wilco songs would you play for someone who’s never heard the band? It’s a deceptively tricky question—one that reveals personal favorites, unexpected picks, and the many eras and sounds of Wilco. Whether yo…
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PAPod 554 - CHOL Live - The Power of Learning Teams: Transforming Leadership Response
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16:36Welcome to the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast hosted by Todd Conklin, featuring an engaging conversation with Bob Edwards from the Community of Human and Organizational Learning. In this episode, Todd and Bob dive into the significance of operational learning and how it is reshaping leadership responses within organizations. Discover how learni…
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PAPod 553 - CHOL LIVE - From Bobbleheads to Breakthroughs: Conference Insights
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26:32Join Todd Conklin in an engaging conversation with Shane Bush at the Pre-XMet Podcast, as they dive into Shane's unexpected Hall of Fame induction and the surprising gift of his own bobblehead. Throughout the episode, they explore the dynamics of safety conferences, focusing on the interaction between academia and practitioners. Shane shares insigh…
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PAPod 552 - Uncovering the Power of Skepticism in Safety Leadership
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31:42[email protected] Join Todd Conklin on this episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast as he delves into a fascinating open Q&A session recorded during a conference in Santa Fe. Our expert panel, including Bob Edwards, Andrea Baker, and Martha Acosta, shares valuable insights into transforming skepticism into a driving force for ch…
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PAPod 551 - Cracking the Code: Embracing Uncertainty with Sam Olliges
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28:38Join host Todd Conklin on the Pre-Accident Investigating Extra podcast as he delves into the complexities of everyday life and work. In this episode, explore the philosophical musings of how each day of the week shapes our lives and dive into a lively discussion on turning uncertainties into opportunities. Todd shares his recent cooking experiment …
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In this episode of Shoving Wilco, we sit down with music journalist and author Bob Mehr to explore the HiFi resurrection of Wilco’s debut album, A.M.. Thirty years after its original release, A.M. is getting the audiophile treatment as part of Rhino’s HiFi series — and it's never sounded better. Bob joins us to talk about the making of the album, h…
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PAPod 550 - Bent but Not Broken: Navigating The Nexus Between Social and Organizational Resilience
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21:20In this compelling episode of the Pre-Exit Investigation Podcast, host Todd Conklin delves into a deeply personal story that challenges perspectives and ignites conversation around resilience and adaptation in organizations. Through the eyes of Hector, a familiar figure from a local restaurant, Todd explores the impact of fear and leadership respon…
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PAPod 549 - Unraveling the Secret Behind 'Ampersat'
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23:22Welcome to the latest episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast with Todd Conklin! Join us on June 1st, 2025, as Todd shares anecdotes about free summer concerts, revealing the intriguing story behind the symbols 'ampersand' and 'ampersat'. Discover how these symbols connect to our understanding of progress and improvement. In this insightf…
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PAPod 548 - by popular request...Unveiling Hidden Barriers: Why People Don't Speak Up
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25:26Welcome to the latest episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast, where we delve into the critical topic of psychological safety and reporting culture in the workplace. Today's discussion is sparked by insights from Brett Torrent, who has observed over his 20-year management career four distinct reasons why employees may hesitate to report i…
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Behind the Album Covers: Wilco’s Visual Identity
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30:45In this episode of Shoving Wilco, we're thrilled to sit down once again with artist Matthew Pfahlert, who brings a unique perspective to the iconic world of Wilco’s album covers. Matthew, renowned for his poster designs for Wilco, dives deep into the visual storytelling that accompanies each album. We explore our favorite covers, unpack what makes …
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PAPod 547 - The Power of Fundamentals: A Journey with Physics and Performance
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24:57In this episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast, Todd Conklin reflects on the importance of masterfully understanding the fundamentals. Through a fascinating conversation with a renowned physicist, he discusses the intersection of chaos physics and human performance, emphasizing the need to begin every discourse at the start, not where we…
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PAPod 546 - Zoe Gulley and Unraveling the Myths of Accident Investigation
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31:45In this insightful episode, Todd Conklin leads a fascinating discussion on the concept of counterfactuals with experts Robert Waterhouse and Zoe Gulley from Energy Safety Canada. They delve into the limitations of traditional accident investigations and how long-standing practices may not serve us well in truly understanding incidents and improving…
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PAPod 545 - A Podcast Redux - "From Southern Tea to Transformative Safety: A Journey"
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38:10In this engaging episode, host Todd Conklin kicks off with a delightful chat about Milo's tea, leading into a compelling panel discussion with Bob Edwards, Mark Yeston, and Andrea Baker. The conversation explores the journey of organizational transformation, focusing on shifting from traditional safety views to a new perspective that emphasizes hum…
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PAPod 544 - Navigating the Queues of Chaos: A Tale from the TSA
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26:39Join host Todd Conklin as he recounts a humorous and eye-opening experience at a Houston airport, navigating an empty TSA line designed for a crowd. Dive into the conversation about design choices and their impact on efficiency and effectiveness, guided by insights from Don Norman's work. Explore how our systems often dictate behavior, and why thei…
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PAPod 543 - Navigating Toxic Uncertainty: Insights for Leaders
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26:21In this episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Safety Podcast, host Todd Conklin delves into the complex topic of toxic uncertainty and its impact on organizations. Through engaging discussions, Todd explores how leaders can guide their teams through an ever-changing world by embracing diversity and making incremental adaptations. Reflecting on …
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The Song Was Written for Me (And Maybe You Too)
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32:35In this episode of Shoving Wilco, host Todd Rossnagel sits down with fellow Wilco devotee and music industry veteran Chris Campbell, whose YouTube channel is a treasure trove of insight on vinyl, alt-country, and, of course, Wilco. Todd and Chris dive deep into how Wilco arrived in their lives at the perfect time, with Chris tracing his journey fro…
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PAPod 542 - "Workers Are Not the Problem: A Revolutionary Leadership Perspective"
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28:59Welcome to the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast with your host Todd. Join Todd and Jennifer Long as they discuss their new book, Workers Are Not the Problem, Workers Are the Solution: A Guide to Leading Differently. The conversation delves into the intersection of leadership, accountability, and the evolving work environment. The discussion highl…
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PAPod 541 - The Stuntman Episode - Meeting Peter Tiemann
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26:22Thanks for listening to the PAPod!By Todd Conklin
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Welcome to the PAPod! This episode discusses the Swiss Cheese Model a bit deeper then normally discussed. Thanks for listening.By Todd Conklin
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On this episode of Shoving Wilco, hosts Todd Rossnagel and Tim Arnold sit down with Wilco’s longtime keyboardist, Mikael Jorgensen. From his early days joining the band to what it's like prepping for a major tour, Mikael shares stories from the road and behind the keys. We dive into his musical influences, what’s currently spinning on his playlist,…
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PAPod 539 - From the Archives: Unlocking Cultural Sustainability with Edgar Schein
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25:53Join us for the concluding part of an insightful conversation with Edgar Schein as he delves into the intricacies of embedding sustainability within organizational cultures, with a focus on safety. Discover why understanding and integrating sustainable practices are crucial from top management to middle managers. Dr. Schein lays out 12 key factors …
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PAPod 538 - From the Archives: Exploring Trust and Openness with Edgar Schein
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29:26Welcome to the Pre-Accident Podcast with Todd Conklin, where today marks the first part of an enlightening two-part series featuring Edgar Schein and his son Peter. This episode dives deep into the nuances of trust and openness within organizational culture, particularly in relation to safety and effectiveness. Throughout this engaging conversation…
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PAPod 537 - Unveiling the Myths of Modern Safety: A Conversation with Todd and Georgina
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38:12In this episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast, host Todd is joined by Georgina Poole, a safety professional from Australia, to discuss a wide range of topics about modern safety initiatives and leadership. Georgina shares her research findings on what creates sustainable change in organizations and the role of leadership in these transf…
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PAPod 536 - Challenging the "Move Fast and Break Things" Mantra
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23:18Join Todd Conklin on an insightful journey as he delves into the complexities of today's ever-changing world. In this episode, Todd challenges the often-celebrated notion of "Move Fast and Break Things," urging listeners to reassess their approach to change and uncertainty. He highlights the need for organizations to focus on delivering excellence …
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HOP Into Action - The Role of AI in HOP and Operational Learning
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24:49Welcome to Season 6 and Episode 125 of the HOP Into Action Podcast Series. On today's show with Brent Sutton and Brent Robinson we are all about AI. The intro is an AI voice, the podcast transcript and summary is AI. But the speakers are real, and as Brent Sutton explores, that AI for them means Aged Intelligence. So please sit back and enjoy this …
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PAPod 535 - Reimagining Safety: Lessons from the Resilience Master
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34:06Join Todd Conklin on the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast as he dives into an enlightening conversation with David Woods, the pioneer behind The Ohio State University's Cognitive Systems Engineering Laboratory. This episode unravels the intricate layers of resilience engineering and its foundational role in understanding safety, adaptability, and…
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The Kintsugi of Wilco – Breaking and Rebuilding with Saby Reyes-Kulkarni
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43:10What happens when a band tears apart its own music only to rebuild it into something even more powerful? Music journalist Saby Reyes-Kulkarni (PopMatters, Pitchfork, SPIN, Billboard) joins us to explore Wilco’s art of deconstruction—how their A Ghost Is Born reissue reveals new layers of the band’s sonic evolution. We discuss the delicate balance b…
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PAPod 534 - Embracing Māori Culture in Modern Safety Practices - Meet Vance Walker
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33:37In this enlightening episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast, host Todd Conklin engages in a compelling conversation with Vance Walker, an expert in integrating Maori cultural practices with modern health and safety systems. As an indigenous professional deeply involved with Maori communities in New Zealand, Vance explores how culturally …
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The Egg That Hatched a Classic: The Visual Story of A Ghost Is Born
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21:25Wilco’s A Ghost Is Born is an album wrapped in mystery, experimentation, and one of the most strikingly simple album covers in rock history—a single white egg. In this episode, we sit down with photographer Michael Schmelling, the creative mind behind the iconic image, to explore the story behind its creation. We dig into Jeff Tweedy’s curiosity ab…
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PAPod 533 - Exploring the Future with Doug Parker and Jim Frederick
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30:27This is Part Two of a two-part discussion. In this engaging episode of the Pre-Accident Podcast, host Todd Conklin continues the conversation with Doug Parker and Jim Frederick in part two of their insightful discussion. They explore the evolving role of OSHA and how it navigates enforcement and assurance to improve workplace safety. With a focus o…
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HOP Into Action - Mind Growth Series - Renovating and Innovating in the Construction Industry with the 4Ds
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5:35For more information, go to: https://hoptool.com/4aoggSFBy Brent Sutton
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Todd Conklin Podcast Special - Honoring a Safety Pioneer: James Reason's Legacy
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18:20In this special episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Safety Podcast, hosted by Todd Conklin, we take a moment to honor the legacy of James Reason, a prominent figure in the field of safety and human error study, who passed away on February 5th, 2025. James Reason revolutionized the way we understand human errors, particularly in complex system…
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PAPod Special - Honoring a Safety Pioneer: James Reason's Legacy
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18:20In this special episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Safety Podcast, hosted by Todd Conklin, we take a moment to honor the legacy of James Reason, a prominent figure in the field of safety and human error study, who passed away on February 5th, 2025. James Reason revolutionized the way we understand human errors, particularly in complex system…
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A Ghost Is Born Again: Bob Mehr on Wilco’s Masterpiece
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50:36Two-time Grammy-winning writer Bob Mehr joins the show to take us inside the making of A Ghost Is Born and the long-awaited deluxe edition box set, which arrives February 7, 2025. Mehr, who penned the liner notes for this box, as well as the Yankee box, shares inside stories and his insight into the iconic album, including the creative chaos that s…
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PAPod 532 - Lessons from Leadership with Doug Parker and Jim Frederick
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28:23Welcome to the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast with Todd Conklin. In this exciting two-part episode, Todd sits down with former OSHA administrators Doug Parker and Jim Frederick. Together, they dive into the world of OSHA, sharing their experiences and insights from working at the forefront of occupational safety and health governance. Doug and …
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