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The Greener Way is your podcast for exploring the big environmental, social and governance questions. Each week, The Greener Way will focus on deep conversations with investment and corporate experts who are deeply engaged in managing the sustainability challenges facing our planet. From climate change to biodiversity, human rights and modern slavery to corporate purpose and governance, we tackle head-on the nuances and trade-offs of our complicated world. The Greener Way is the podcast of F ...
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A podcast about the business of sustainability. John Treadgold interviews business leaders in sustainability, ESG and impact investing who are re-defining economics and building companies as a force for good.
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How can we mobilise investment into nature restoration? Financing Nature from GFI Hive aims to better understand how we can unlock private sector investment into nature restoration and nature-based solutions, and move towards a nature-positive economy. Each episode features interviews with leaders in finance, policy and the environment to discuss solutions. Hosted by the Green Finance Institute's Helen Avery.
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Great partnerships can make all the difference. In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar talks with Yossi Kraemer, co-head of capital partnerships and director of funds management at Salter Brothers. In the year where the future of sustainable investing was hotly debated following greenwashing claims and reversal of climate polici…
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2025 has been a milestone year for responsible investing. This week on The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the year that was with Estelle Parker, co-chief executive of the Responsible Investment Association Australasia (RIAA). They discuss the organisation's key achievements and the trends that reshaped the sustainable sector in the y…
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This week on The Greener Way Podcast, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the top sustainability trends of 2025 with Adam Verwey, co-founder of ethical investment platform Six. In this episode, they dive into the surge of shareholder resolutions in Australia, key wins and setbacks on nature risk, greenwashing and the state of funding for sustainabilit…
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In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar interviews Candace Coppere, head of Climate and Innovation Lab, Sustainability Business at ISS STOXX (parent company of FS Sustainability) about the latest in measuring and monitoring physical risks for real asset investors. Coppere explains how fund managers and super funds can leverage ge…
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COP30 Insights: Global Climate Challenges and Achievements In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar talks with Dr. Evan Center, senior manager for environment and climate change from the UN Global Compact Network Australia, about the key takeaways from the 30th annual UN Conference of the Parties (COP30) held in Brazil. They discu…
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Taking on TNFD: Navigating a new way of reporting
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12:36Earlier in the year, First Sentier Group’s global head of responsible investment Kate Turner joined Jamie Williamson on The Greener Way to talk through the findings of the group’s inaugural Climate and Nature Report. In this episode, we welcome her back to the podcast to reflect on First Sentier Group’s experience in adopting the Taskforce on Natur…
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How AI is changing the game on whistleblowing
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18:20In this episode of the Greener Way, we explore the intersection of AI and sustainability with host Michelle Baltazar and guest Scott Lane, founding chief executive of Speeki. They delve into how Gen AI can improve whistleblowing programs, drive ESG initiatives and sustainability strategies for better corporate governance and compliance. 02:00 The r…
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Navigating NSW's Planning Framework: What Investors Need to Know
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16:55In this episode of 'The Greener Way,' host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Jane Gibbs, national ESG advisory lead at Unwelt, to delve into the proposed environmental planning and assessment amendment reforms in New South Wales. The discussion covers the implications of the reforms for the sustainability and investment sectors, highlighting the establ…
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Recharging investment portfolios with batteries and biodiversity
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14:42Over the past 10 years, the investment case for batteries and battery storage has evolved phenomenally as their efficacy in supporting the energy transition became more apparent. But Australia remains behind many other developed countries, even five years behind the UK, and Gresham House chief executive Tony Dalwood says educating super funds and o…
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The greener way to gold: Artisan miners on the rise
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16:55This week on The Greener Way podcast, Michelle Baltazar, executive director of media at FS Sustainability, sits down with Shaokai Fan, head of asia pacific (ex china) and global head of central banks at the World Gold Council (WGC), to discuss the role of the WGC in enhancing the gold market, the significant rise in gold prices, and the importance …
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Understanding nature-related risks: A conversation with Mirtha Kastrapeli on ESG investing
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15:13In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar talks with Mirtha Kastrapeli, global head at ISS STOXX Research Institute, on how institutional investors are starting to look at 'nature' with a fresh lens. Beyond its impact on investment outcomes, many super funds can start unpacking nature-related risks and opportunities. 00:30 Welcome …
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In this episode, Australian Ethical deputy CIO and head of multi-asset, John Woods, discuss how their allocation into defensive assets, particularly government bonds, are changing. 00:00 Introduction to government bonds in ethical portfolios 00:44 Meet John Woods from Australian Ethical 02:01 Ethical considerations in government bond investments 03…
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Do emission targets matter? 2026 Report Insights
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16:36In this week’s episode of The Greener Way, Michelle Baltazar, Executive Director of Media at FS Sustainability, chats with Julia Leske, Managing Director and Senior Consultant at ISS Sustainability in Australia, about the latest report from ISS's Climate and Nature Innovation Lab that evaluates corporate emission targets. They discuss the importanc…
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Criticisms of private credit are typically focused on its opaque nature; as a recent ASIC report pointed out, transparency is scarce. As an ESG-led manager, Woodbridge Capital believes there’s nothing more important than transparency – and that investors working with private credit managers that don’t prioritise it put themselves at risk. Woodbridg…
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Safeguarding children's rights in the age of AI: Insights from Federated Hermes
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21:31Join host Michelle Baltazar on The Greener Way as she discusses the vital topic of children's rights with Ross Teverson, regional team lead at Federated Hermes. Explore how companies must integrate safety by design in AI development, the risks of indiscriminate AI content, the rising need for regulatory consistency across global markets, and recent…
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Invest like a business owner: Insights from Jai Mirchandani
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18:14In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Jai Mirchandani, founder and CIO of Elm Responsible Investments. Jai provides an in-depth look at sustainable investing, discussing the importance of long-term business ownership, the impact of current climate policies, and what sets his fund apart from ESG-led fund managers. He…
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In this episode, we dive into the U.S. mitigation banking market as part of our ongoing exploration of compliance models and regulated markets. Helen Avery is joined by Adam Davis, co-founder and managing partner of Ecosystem Investment Partners (EIP), a private equity firm that has raised over $1 billion and restored more than 53,000 acres of wetl…
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From engineering to climate policy: Frankie Muskovic's journey
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23:37In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Frankie Muskovic, the newly appointed Executive Director of Policy at the Investor Group on Climate Change (IGCC). Frankie shares her unique journey from an engineering background to the forefront of climate policy. She shares key priorities that the IGCC brought to a recent gov…
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Climate transition by numbers: Insights from Bjarne Graven Larsen
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26:40In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Bjarne Graven Larsen, founder and CEO of Qblue Balanced, on the hard numbers behind climate transition. Graven Larsen explains how defining and measuring climate transition involves measuring a company's societal value creation, emissions reduction, and green innovation capabilit…
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Linda Romanovska: Taxonomy opportunities; a global perspective on Australia’s Sustainable Finance Taxonomy
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36:14Throughout almost 100 episodes of the Good Future podcast we’ve traced the evolution of the sustainable investment sector. But now we’re entering a new era of sustainable finance, where climate risk reporting, impact measurement and climate-tech innovation have become core parts of investment management.Sustainable investing has matured, and that’s…
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Clearing up the confusion on product labelling
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21:07Is it still the wild, wild west on product labelling for sustainable investments? In this podcast, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Dug Higgins, Head of Responsible Investment & Real Assets for the broader Zenith Group, on how financial advisers can benefit from a more rigorous debate on how investment managers address ESG and sustainability. He a…
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The 'S' in ESG: Challenger's Charlotte O'Meara on fighting modern slavery
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22:50In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Charlotte O'Meara, head of responsible investment at Challenger. They delve into the issue of modern slavery and how an investor network representing $12 trillion FUM hopes to fight it. The episode highlights the efforts and frameworks developed by Challenger to assess and addre…
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In this episode, we’re joined by Tim Male, Founder and Executive Director of the Environmental Policy Innovation Center (EPIC), to dive into U.S. mitigation banking and the broader role of regulatory markets. The U.S. is home to the one of the world’s largest regulatory markets, where billions of private-sector dollars are flowing into nature resto…
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Rethinking stewardship: JANA's Rachel Halpern on balancing returns with responsibility
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16:10In this episode of 'The Greener Way,' host Michelle Baltazar chats with Rachel Halpern, head of sustainability at JANA Investment Advisors, about the pivotal role asset consultants play in the evolving landscape of institutional investment. They discuss the integration of ESG themes, debunk the misconception around sustainable investing hurting ret…
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R4N Episode 8: Thomas Pickford (TNC) and Glenn Anderson (Wendling Beck)
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51:45In this episode Helen Avery is joined by Thomas Pickford, UK Partnerships and Policy Lead at The Nature Conservancy (TNC) and Glenn Anderson, Co-Founder and Strategy Lead at the Wendling Beck - a landscape scale project which has been selling Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG) units in the UK. In this episode they talk about the BNG market, what it is, ho…
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Understanding TCorp's Approach to Climate Change and Active Ownership
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20:55In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the inaugural investment stewardship report by TCorp with the company's head of investment stewardship, Alexis Cheang. Alexis shares insights on how TCorp has integrated ESG factors into their investment strategies, detailing their efforts in active ownership and the challenges fa…
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Enhancing emission transparency: PathZero's innovative approach to private equity
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13:21In this episode of The Greener Way podcast, Financial Standard's Eliza Bavin talks with Carl Prins, Co-founder and CEO of PathZero, about the challenges superannuation funds face in managing climate-related financial risks when it comes to private equity. They discuss the need for precise emissions data, regulatory standards, and the unique approac…
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Navigating climate transition: Directors' duties and greenwashing
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16:07In this episode of 'The Greener Way,' host Michelle Baltazar discusses the critical role of company directors in climate transition planning with Christian Gergis, head of policy at the Australian Institute of Company Directors (AICD). The discussion covers the evolution of climate issues in boardrooms, the importance of robust transition plans, co…
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In this episode Emily McKenzie joins us on Financing Nature to share how we move from disclosures into action. She shares where the TNFD is to-date on working with businesses and financial institutions around the world, differences in regional approaches, transition plans and the road to investment.
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The AI governance risk keeping executives up at night: A conversation with Elfreda Jonker
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15:49In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the governance risks posed by AI with Elfreda Jonker from Alphinity Investment Management. They explore the impact of AI on cybersecurity and data privacy, as highlighted in Alphinity's latest sustainability report. The conversation covers the importance of a Responsible AI framew…
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R4N Episode 6: Tom Curtis, Landscape Enterprise Networks
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32:04In this episode, Helen Avery speaks with Tom Curtis, founding partner at 3Keel and Landscape Enterprise Networks about the LENs model that brings together businesses to pay farmers for environmental outcomes across a shared landscape.
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Join host Michelle Baltazar as she speaks with Dr. Erin Kuo-Sutherland, chief sustainability officer at Yarra Capital Management. In this episode, they discuss the implications of surpassing the 1.5°C global warming threshold, the impact on various sectors, and the new climate reality. They discuss Yarra’s strategic approach to ESG integration, phy…
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In this episode, Vanessa Garcia at Terrassos shares about mitigation banking in Colombia and their model of establishing habitat banks to provide biodiversity units into that market.
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Mandatory Climate Disclosure: Closing Loopholes for Investment Banks and Insurers
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12:18In this episode of 'The Greener Way,' host Michelle Baltazar discusses the new accounting standards for Scope 3 emissions with Alison George, Chief Impact and Ethics Officer at Australian Ethical Investments. They discuss why it's crucial for investment banks and insurers to be included in these disclosures, the risks involved in granting them exem…
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Exploring Emerging Markets & Sustainable Investments with Pablo Berrutti
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25:50Join host Michelle Baltazar as she chats with Pablo Berrutti, senior portfolio specialist at Stewart Investors, about emerging market investment opportunities and their main growth drivers. Berrutti also explains why Samsung, Wallmex and Bank of the Philippine Islands are featured in their portfolios and why mid-cap US companies offer good value fo…
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R4N Episode 4: Michal Zrust, The Rimba Collective
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42:49In this fourth episode, Helen Avery is joined by Michal Zrust, Founder and CEO of Lestari Capital to discuss the Rimba Collective, a financial mechanism that supports companies to finance a portfolio of forest conservation and restoration projects across Southeast Asia. Rimba Collective members make payments that are proportionally linked to the am…
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R4N Episode 3: Nicolas Pascal, Blue Alliance
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29:34In this third episode, Helen Avery is joined by Nicolas Pascal, Founder of Blue Alliance to explore its innovative model that creates local reef-positive business rooted in the blue economy. These social enterprises then direct a portion of their profits toward the management of Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) – helping MPAs to become financially sel…
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How direct indexing could supercharge ESG
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17:56While still at a very nascent stage in Australia, direct indexing holds great potential – particularly for ESG and responsible investors. Investing in line with your values is a very idiosyncratic desire as what’s important to one investor can differ greatly for another. Being able to build a low-cost, custom portfolio that removes all the ESG expo…
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In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the transition to nature-positive investment portfolios with Lucian Peppelenbos, climate and biodiversity strategist at Robeco. Lucian shares his insights on the importance of incorporating environmental impacts into investment strategies, using the Task Force for Nature-related F…
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R4N Episode 2: Elizabeth Beall, Fisheries Improvement Fund
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29:08In this second episode, Helen Avery is joined by Elizabeth Beall, Managing Director of Finance Earth to discuss supply chain models including the Fisheries Improvement Fund (FIF) and how it can be replicated and scaled. The FIF brings together actors across the entire seafood supply chain to fund the full costs of a Fishery Improvement Project or w…
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The challenges facing sustainable investors are always evolving, and approaches to responsible investment must evolve as well. Over the years, much of the industry has adopted a siloed approach to E, S and G issues, but a new report from First Sentier Investors explores how an integrative approach to responsible investment can produce more lucrativ…
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R4N Episode 1: Pedro Moura Costa, Responsible Commodities Facility
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41:12In this episode, Helen Avery is joined by Pedro Moura Costa, founder of Sustainable Investment Management (SIM) and BVRio, to discuss the Responsible Commodities Facility (RCF), and how it can be replicated and scaled. RCF provides a financially sustainable vehicle that incentivises soy farmers in Brazil, and helps meet the growing international de…
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In this episode of 'The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar interviews Paul Clements-Hunt, founder and CEO of the Blended Capital Group, about the evolution and future of Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) investing. They explore the origin of ESG, emphasising its role in changing the culture of asset owners, particularly in Australia. He …
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Navigating the energy transition: Challenges and opportunities
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14:32In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Will Farrell, co-lead of climate change at Federated Hermes Stewardship and Engagement Body (EOS), about the complexities of reducing emissions in hard-to-abate sectors like aviation, shipping, and primary chemicals. They explore the obstacles related to systemic dependencies, po…
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From coal to carbon: Planting seeds of the future
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17:32In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Raf Wood, co-managing director of Silva Capital, on the evolution of Australia's carbon market and Silva's latest update on their carbon credit projects. They explore the impact of the 2022 safeguard mechanism, the company's commitment to sustainability inspired by Wood's person…
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Australia’s job market is relatively robust, but just like different industries tell different stories, so too do different segments of the sustainability sector. While recruitment for ESG roles has generally slowed across financial services from the highs we’ve seen of late, there are still opportunities out there for the right skill sets. In this…
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Climate risk and insurance: A growing concern with Nicki Hutley
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14:14In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Nicki Hutley, a climate councillor and chief economist, about a comprehensive climate risk report by the Climate Council. The discussion centres on the alarming rise in insurance premiums due to climate risks, emphasising the need for prompt and effective climate action. They di…
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Banking on the climate transition with Rachel Alembakis
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19:30Australia’s big five banks – ANZ, Commonwealth Bank, Macquarie Group, NAB and Westpac – have all committed to limiting or cutting financing to fossil fuel projects that they feel are not aligned to achieving a net zero future. This requires a lot of work on several fronts, and for investors it’s about understanding how realistic the success of such…
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Navigating the energy transition: Insights from Chief Economist Brian Redican
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14:10In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Brian Redican, Chief Economist at TCorp, about the economic implications of transitioning to renewable energy. They discuss evolving priorities in financial analysis, the volatility of energy prices, and the geopolitical risks that influence investment decisions. The conversatio…
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Building a Sustainable Portfolio: Lessons from Unless Financial's Dave Rae
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16:45In this episode of The Greener Way, Michelle Baltazar speaks with Dave Rae, a responsible investment advisor from Unless Financial. They discuss common myths about responsible investing, affirming it doesn't sacrifice returns and requires global diversification to be successful. The discussion also highlights the growing role of tech in sustainable…
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