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Something powerful happens when everyday women come together to share their extraordinary stories before a live audience. Join our hosts, Co-Founder Kerry Rossow and National Director, Jenette Jurczyk, each week as they visit with some incredible women who braved the microphone to share their stories on the She Said stage.
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In November 2022, Lilly had an idea that she couldn’t un-have. In February 2023, she put up 400 flyers around New York City asking strangers to apply to be her friend. The flyers said “Do you want to make a new friend?” and directed people to a website with a questionnaire. Seventy people filled it out. Lilly interviewed 24 of them.
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Damn Good Interior Designer

Cheryl Kees Clendenon and Liz Lapan

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Join Cheryl Kees Clendenon and Liz Lapan, the dynamic duo behind the visionary and integrator balancing all the moving parts of a full service interior design firm in their no-nonsense and thought-provoking podcast, the Damn Good Designer. Each episode is full of damn good truths and real talk as they share invaluable insights on how to run and build a successful business while challenging the norms, the industry, each other and YOU. Emphasizing a business-savvy approach, Cheryl and Liz take ...
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The Great Antidote

Juliette Sellgren

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Adam Smith said, "Science is the great antidote to the poison of enthusiasm and superstition." So join us for interviews with the leading experts on today's biggest issues to learn more about economics, policy, and much more.
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This is a show for burnt-out fashion designers (and TDs, PDs, patternmakers, textile designer and beyond) who want more flexibility in their career while still doing work they love. You'll learn how to build a freelance fashion business, so you can do the work you love on your own terms. Freelancing in fashion is the only way to get freedom in your day (instead of being tied to a desk). Whether you want to earn extra money on the side, fund your fashion brand, or replace your salary, the FDG ...
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The Second Draft Project

Dr. Allissa V. Richardson and Prof. Jameela Hammond

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“Journalism is the first rough draft of history,” Philip L. Graham once said. Graham was the legendary president and publisher of the Washington Post, and believed that strong news media bolsters our democracy. What if, however, journalism’s first draft was flawed? What happens when journalists get things wrong? What happens when bias seeps into news coverage? What should journalism owe the people when it falls short? This podcast proposes a way forward: The Second Draft Project. The Second ...
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Join Mike, Misty and guests as we talk about Squat. In the urban dictionary, squat means nothing or doesn't mean anything. Weekly call in show to discuss any and all topics. Bring it on, we look forward to talking with you. If you would like to call and talk with us about anything, you can call us at 706-409-2188. Or text us to let us know you want to talk with us, and we will give you a call. You can also email us at [email protected]. You can let us know something you want us to ...
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Imagine they set out to clone the Son of God. Imagine they succeed... The Holy Blood Altar, an elaborate shrine whose centerpiece is said to contain three drops of Jesus Christ’s blood, has for centuries adorned the west choir within the walls of a small, unassuming Catholic cathedral in Rothenberg, Germany. From the time of the Middle Ages the cathedral was little more than a tiny rest stop along the pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela until an amazing confirmation was made there. The caps ...
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Jennifer took a chance on her big dreams when she moved to New York City, but when 9/11 happened, she had a front row seat to the tragedy and recovery of the city and the country. She shares with our hosts all the joys and the sorrows that bring her laughter and healing.By The She Said Project
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Liz is going solo again and giving you her expertise into the art of handling new lead calls with intention and strategy. Liz handles our discovery calls at In Detail and we do a great job at converting our prospective clients because it is not about rattling off your services or rushing into pricing—it’s about active listening. By asking the right…
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What if your biggest freelance project started with a LinkedIn message... and didn’t close for another 8 months? That’s exactly how Amanda Cabania landed a $9,000 client for a women’s golf brand. With no website, minimal marketing, and a lot of uncertainty, she wasn’t sure where things would lead—but she stayed patient, followed up, and eventually …
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Lilly steps back to let her friends do the talking about setting limits in relationships. Sustaita explains why she sees people as chapters, Emma describes leaving Christianity and losing her best friend to marriage during the pandemic, Thomas reveals his new approach to planning trips to Italy, and Sundara reflects on seventeen years of fighting a…
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Heather took the stage in the first ever That's What She Said in Indianapolis in 2023. In her story, #AdventuresinAlzheimersSitting she shared the many posts documenting her journey of caring for her mother during her battle with Alzheimers. On this episode of the podcast, we get all the updates on Heather and her family and share in her memories.…
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Send us a text Why does freedom matter? How can we defend it in an age of rising authoritarianism? In this episode, I sit down with Tom Palmer to explore the ideas, virtues, and strategies that keep liberty alive. We cover: · The rise of authoritarian movements and global threats to liberty · The morality of freedom: how to know what to fight for a…
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Lilly meets three people who've figured out how to create their own spaces in New York City. Ankham left Laos to find freedom in K-Town, Samuel turned his recording studio into something sacred in the Bronx, and Leah navigated her way back to Judaism on her own terms in Williamsburg. Plus, Lilly realizes her questionnaire answers about strawberry s…
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Little did we know our Pricing and Salary Survey results were going to give us great nuggets of information that we could share for many future podcasts to come! One of the biggest challenges we found designers face is defining their product. Too often, “full-service design” means something different to every designer—and that inconsistency makes i…
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Tired of saying yes to everything—and still not getting paid what you’re worth? Martha Fogarty was, too. After years of permalance gigs, unpaid invoices, and murky job titles, she drew a line in the sand. In this episode, Martha shares how getting hyper-clear on her niche and offer flipped the power dynamic, brought in multiple five-figure clients,…
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After feeling isolated in New York City for five years, Lilly puts up 400 flyers around the city asking strangers to apply to be her friend. She creates a 40-question survey, receives 70 responses, and conducts 24 filmed interviews to see if friendship can work like a job application. In this first episode, Lilly explains why she invented her own s…
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Spending time with Gina Johnson can be like the best kind of therapy and co-hosts Kerry and Jenette enjoy unpacking "If We Fake It, We Won't Make It," the story Gina shared onstage as well as how she helps so many others find the good in their lives too in her career.By The She Said Project
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Kitchen and bath design must be treated — and priced — as the high-level specialty it is. These are not "just another room" — instead, they are some of the most complex, high-stakes, and profitable part of your business if you treat it that way. Too many designers undervalue their skills, we discuss how flat fees protect both your expertise and you…
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Just because you land a $10K freelance project doesn’t mean it all goes smoothly. Jacqueline’s back to share what *didn’t* go so great—and the one decision she regrets most. We unpack the lessons she’s learning around boundaries, overgiving, and setting clear terms from the start. Whether you’re early in your freelance business or landing big wins …
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Bekime-Feezor Branch learned how to compartmentalize her life to overcome trauma, but in her story, "Dying to Live" she shares how she can no longer live that way. Only when you choose to live "in the first person," can you truly be free and alive.By The She Said Project
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In this Ask and Answered episode, we break down the real reasons flat fees can transform your business—and why hourly billing might be keeping you small. The mindset shift designers need to make is to stop thinking like a technician and start pricing like a CEO. Flat fees protect your time, boost your authority, and create a better experience for y…
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You ever wonder what it *actually* takes to land a $10,000+ freelance project in fashion? Jacqueline’s back for her third appearance—and this time, she walks us through how a total stranger found her on Google, filled out her project form, and signed a $10,498 contract without negotiating. We get into the exact pricing strategy, mindset shifts, and…
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In her story, "She Knew," Marguerite Bailey shares the struggles of saying goodbye to her beloved mother. As she visits with Jenette and Kerry in The She Said Project Podcast Studio, they reflect on how her story impacted her friends and family and how we can all relate to losing someone we love.By The She Said Project
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How can you be team player without giving up your own rights? Working with contractors can be a tricky relationship when they want you to stay in your lane--BUT it doesn't have to be. Creating a team approach with positioning in your marketing, the copy that you use, the verbiage that you talk about, and how you talk about it with other people, all…
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You’ve probably been told never to say yes to cheap work. But what if that project could launch your freelance career? That’s exactly what Max Guemto did. With no reviews and a fresh Upwork profile, he got a message from a client offering just $150—and instead of walking away, he saw a smart opportunity. In this episode, Max unpacks the mindset, st…
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We sat down with our first full band on The-Re-Up Podcast - none other than funk legends Robert "Sput" Searight and Nate Werth from Ghost-Note. We dive into life on tour with a genre-bending band, the art of finding synchronicity through improvisation, and the deep musical roots that shaped their one-of-a-kind sound. From behind-the-scenes stories …
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Our hosts Jenette and Kerry welcome Emily Harrington to chat about the story she shared on She Said Stage in the flagship community of Champaign-Urbana. We get to hear the insights of what has happened since she revealed her "Dirty Little Secret."By The She Said Project
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We have another asked and answered topic this week! We are talking about reframing what many designers see as “wasted” discovery calls. Just because a lead isn’t a fit for full service doesn’t mean it’s a dead end. Consider this as a chance to position your firm as a resource, build brand equity, and generate revenue—especially when you offer varie…
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What if you could build a thriving freelance fashion business… while raising a toddler at home? That’s exactly what Philippa Cooper—aka Pip—has done, working just two days a week. In this episode, Pip shares how she went from a COVID layoff to building a client roster using platforms like PeoplePerHour and LinkedIn. You’ll hear how she doubled proj…
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After 100 amazing episodes with an amazing media partner across town, Jenette and Kerry accepted an exciting invitation from local CBS affiliate WCIA to record new episodes of The She Said Project Podcast LIVE in the WCIA studios for streaming on a brand new WCIA+ streaming platform (available on ROKU, Apple TV and Fire TV. Download the app to be t…
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This week we sat down with Esseks, an experimental electronic producer and friend from our festival travels. On top of being one of the leaders of the unique and limit pushing production levels that make Bass Music such a special sub genre, Esseks is also an established artist and illustrator who pairs his music with the visual arts. We chatted abo…
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Public relations isn’t just about getting published—it’s about what you do after the feature goes live. We thrilled to welcome our special guest who we have been working with for over a year. Alex Abramian, founder of The PR Collaborative, talks with us about the evolving landscape of PR for interior designers. With years of experience as a writer …
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What happens after you hit $100K on Upwork? For Afroditi, it meant finally stepping away. In this second half of our in-person interview, she shares how she scaled her freelance business, raised her rates, and built a system that brought clients to her. But she also reveals why she chose to leave it all behind. From pricing mindset to proposal tips…
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We sat down with a prolific new school electronic producer, friend, and member of Crown The Foundation (CharlesTheFirst) Black Carl! and got a look into how he made it to the point he's at today as a touring and full time artist from Birmingham, Alabama in the Experimental Bass Music scene. We also touched on equity and a listenership within electr…
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Another Asked & Answered segment today and our very own Liz going solo! One of the biggest balancing acts designers face is pairing creativity with structure. Your vision is what SELLS the client, but your process is what DELIVERS on that promise. Clients remember the feeling, not the portal or the lists or the emails—but having strong systems behi…
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What if your first freelance project paid just $15 and took a week to complete... would you keep going? In this first episode of our two-part series, I sit down in person with Afroditi, a Greek fashion freelancer who started on Upwork with no clients and no portfolio. She opens up about landing that first $15 sketch job, the fear and uncertainty sh…
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The Media Prince is a staple throughout the Washington DC Journalism community and beyond. We got to sit down for an in depth look into the world of Radio, News, and online media through the eyes of a creator and storyteller. From his work with Fox 5 News to his 35 under 35 list, The Media Prince has consistiently shown himself and the world in a l…
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We believe one of the most underrated parts of a client journey is the intake process. This isn’t about a boring list of preferences like if they prefer black over blue or which kitchen they like best. Instead, it's about asking the right questions to uncover how clients live, communicate, and make decisions. Our unique and customized client questi…
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Could you land a $75/hour freelance gig without even showing a portfolio? Sara Bleske did—and her story might just change the way you think about pitching. After being laid off from her full-time design job, surface and textile designer Sara Bleske didn’t wait until everything was “ready.” Instead, she led with sincerity, curiosity, and a desire to…
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Send us a text In this special episode of The Great Antidote, Amy Willis of Liberty Fund takes the mic to interview Juliette Sellgren, the voice behind the show. Together, they reflect on the evolution of the podcast—from its early days to the hundreds of guests it has featured—and how Juliette herself has grown in the process. They talk about what…
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Send us a text What happens when people stop trusting rules—and start rewriting them? In this episode, we are joined by economist Edward Lopez about the life and legacy of James M. Buchanan, the Nobel Prize-winning founder of public choice economics. We begin by unpacking Buchanan’s biography and intellectual roots: what shaped his worldview, who i…
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There’s no one right way to run a design business—but there is often a better way. This is not to say if something is working for you—great. Keep going. But if you're stuck or wondering why the same problems keep popping up? It might be time to challenge the models you’re using. How can you challenge the traditional business models, such as cost pl…
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