A podcast on reclaiming an ancient Christian faith for modern Christian life, with the Reverend Lizzie McManus-Dail and the Reverend Laura Di Panfilo.
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What is the Nicene Creed? PART 01 with Dr. Hannah Black, Ph.D.
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57:51The Nicene Creed is *the* definitive statement of faith for what Christianity is for most Christians, around the world, throughout most of time. Love it or hate it, the Creed binds us together. And since our entire project at And Also With You is reclaiming an ancient Christian faith for modern Christian life, we thought it time to dive deep into t…
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Are we all Hell Bent? With Brian Recker
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1:04:52Just in time for Halloween, we're talking about the spookiest thing of all: HELL. Or better yet - a belief in hell. Christianity's obsession with hell has us missing out on love, freedom, connection, and justice without punishment. We're joined today by bestselling author Brian Recker to talk about hell, how we unravel its chokehold on our faith, a…
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Christian Motherhood Taboos: Fatherhood is a Joy, Not Babysitting
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37:32There is no freedom or feminism if it isn't for everybody -- so we are really excited to welcome two of our favorite dads to the podcast to talk about Christian parenting: our husbands! Join us for a tender and truthful conversation about why fatherhood is a vocation, a joy, and *not* babysitting your own kids. +++ Like what you hear? We are an ent…
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Christian Motherhood Taboos: Unexpected Pregnancies with Rev. Mia Kano and Rev. Reagan Gonzalez
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1:08:05Today’s episode is part of our Christian parenting mini-series we are offering on “Motherhood Taboos” and we are tackling a big taboo of finding out you're pregnant ... and you weren't planning to be. Our guests are both priests who found themselves unexpectedly pregnant and want to narrate the grief and the joy, the surprise and the wonder, and th…
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Christian Motherhood Taboos: Is God our Mother, Too? With the author of Mother God, Rev. Teresa Kim Pecinovsky
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35:19Today’s episode is part of our Christian parenting mini-series we are offering on “Motherhood Taboos” and we've invited author, preacher, and friend The Rev. Teresa Kim Pecinovsky to talk with us about maternal images of God in Scripture. She's an expert because she wrote one of our favorite children's books, Mother God! While Scripture is PACKED w…
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Christian Motherhood Taboos: Maternal Mental Health
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46:29Today’s episode is part of our Christian parenting mini-series we are offering on “Motherhood Taboos” - the topics that are on many parents' hearts and minds and yet are not discussed in public very often. Motherhood can be physically, emotionally, and mentally very demanding. These three things can snowball which can leave mothers feeling very iso…
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Christian Motherhood Taboos: Publicly Navigating a Miscarriage
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54:22In our Motherhood taboo series we are seeking to “fill the gap” between feminist, thoughtful, deconstructing/inclusive orthodoxy Christian content and the trad wife motherhood content online. Content warning: we will be talking about miscarriage and pregnancy loss in this episode. This week we are joined by two friends and colleagues, The Rev. Alli…
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What is "Christian Motherhood" if not being a Trad Wife?
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34:49There just is not enough content online about motherhood that speaks both to Christian faith and progressive, inclusive values. We're trying to change that discourse, one conversation at a time, in a mini-series we're calling "Christian Motherhood Taboos." Today we take an overview of why this matters, why talking about motherhood is ALWAYS talking…
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Campy, funny, reverently irreverent -- we've all loved watching the Greedy Peasant's queer medieval fever dream unfold online. And we were thrilled when he said he'd come chat with us on the show! So join us for a fun, insightful, and moving conversation about art, playfulness, deconstructing from high control religion, and finding a path home to y…
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The Most Rev. Sean Rowe is the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, and in a time of fear in the US and abroad, not to mention religious decline, it's got to be a big job to have. So we were delighted that he agreed to come and chat with us about his vision for the church (very hopeful!), his recent op-eds and the Episcopal church emerging as …
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We answer a few of your questions on the season finale of season two and look ahead to what will be coming up in season three! Thank you for all your support!!! +++ Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast There's all kinds of perks including un-ai…
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What is the Book of Revelation? And what do we do with the...apocalypse?
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58:38The mark of the beast. Signs and portents. A whole dang book about the "apocalypse" at the end of the Bible. What on EARTH do we do with Revelation? Is it a literal guidebook for surviving hell? Is it a wacky political cartoon we've overblown? Or is it ... something more? (Spoiler alert: it is much more. It is a book about the end of the world - bu…
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We as Christians practice an ancient religion that is in many ways the same as it ever was, and in other significant ways has been shifting and evolving consistently since its beginning 2000 years ago. Culture shifts, society shifts, our political and economic structures and realities shift and our practices of religion shift with it. The playing f…
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How do we have joy even when it's difficult?
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55:31The #1 question Lizzie has been asked on her book tour is some version of "how can I have joy when I feel so scared/sad/mad?" This is such a tender question, and one we - your three hosts today - have all wrestled with very, very deeply. As priests, but also just as people (who, to be clear, don't have this all hacked) we have not always been happy…
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The Gospel of Luke says: "Now it was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them who told this to the apostles." John claims it was Mary Magdalene. Mark and Matthew also have a list of women ... so whatever Gospel you're reading, the Good News of Christ's resurrection was first witnessed and preached by WOMEN. So…
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We talk a lot about FEASTING in the Church, and specifically, that the season of Easter is a feast (as opposed to a fast). But what does that mean, exactly? Are we talking about real food or spiritual food or ... both?? Join us in Eastertide as we spend a little time with this question. Or join us anytime, because as we explore in this episode, it'…
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Re-run: How Do We Talk About Jesus on the Cross with Kids?!
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1:16:38The crucifixion was a grisly way for Jesus to die, and yet, his death is an enormous part of our faith. How do we talk about this with kids? Is it inherently shoving something down their throats? Will it traumatize them? What about kids who have been seriously traumatized already? How do we talk about death, torture, and grief with littles in such …
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Wait, the rapture isn't real? (So what do we believe about the "end times"??)
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59:51Wait ... did you know "the rapture" is something that this dude named John Nelson Darby came up with in the 1800s after he fell off of his horse? And then it was popularized in the aftermath of WWI because of the study notes in the Schofield Bible? Yeah. "The rapture" and pre-millennial dispensationalism (the fancy term for it) is not traditional, …
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Thanks to Renegade Photos for the picture! (https://renegadephoto.co) Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Our Website: https://a…
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Recently, national news was made by an Episcopalian asking for mercy. Many of us were deeply moved by her words and yet, many people were enraged by them. This dissonance suggests that there are different understandings of mercy out there, especially among Christians. How do we begin to understand mercy in light of our faith? What does it mean to s…
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Happy St. Patrick's Day! Who is Saint Patrick? What role do saints have in our faith? Grab a plate of corned beef and cabbage and join us for this discussion! Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast There's all kinds of perks including un-aired li…
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Confessing our sins can be super liberating, but it is a practice that has been used to predatory ends. How do we approach "Confession" from a liberating standpoint, and what are ways we think about being forgiven as people who live in the real world? Join us for an enlivening, deep conversation with The Rev. Kelli Joyce on sin, confession, mercy, …
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We opened our phone line for your questions! The gang tackles this one on prayer and listening to God's voice. Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes…
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The idea of "sin" has been weaponized, especially against marginalized folks. We've brought our colleague, friend, and brilliant theologian The Rev. Dr. Patrick Cheng to speak with us on sin, and why we're not giving up on the idea of sin even as liberated Christians. Father Patrick is a prolific writer, thinker, and leader in the church; in this e…
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What is Queer Ministry and Vocation?
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1:07:17What a weird and hard and scary time it is to be a queer person, and what a confusing time for both queer people and allies to understand alike to think through the relationship between the Christian faith and queerness, when so much is being said by Christians against queer and trans people. And yet, queer and trans and non-binary and gay and lesb…
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WE ARE RECORDING AN EPISODE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS! CALL US AT (262) 229-9763 (that's 262-AAWY POD AND LEAVE US A VOICEMAIL AND YOUR QUESTION MIGHT BE ON AN UPCOMING EP! THANKS! LOVE YA! So you've kissed Christian purity culture goodbye ... but now what do we do with all those Bible verses about "purity"? How do we think about innocence, readines…
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Why is Eve always getting blamed for the downfall of humanity? Is that fair? Is that even what happens in the Bible? <> *** Make friendship bracelets and join us LIVE in Pittsburgh on March 21 + 22! Friday Night Live Episode: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/bf7a14 Saturday Morning Retreat: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/16ac6f **** L…
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Why is Eve always getting blamed for the downfall of humanity? Is that fair? Is that even what happens in the Bible? *** Make friendship bracelets and join us LIVE in Pittsburgh on March 21 + 22! Friday Night Live Episode: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/bf7a14 Saturday Morning Retreat: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/16ac6f **** Like…
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What is the future of the church? Where do we go from here? We invited the Rt. Rev. C. Andrew Doyle, the Bishop of the Diocese of Texas on to help us explore this question. Bishop Doyle has a unique perspective on the church from where he sits and it was a delight to talk to him! Like what you hear? We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://w…
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Repentance and forgiveness are central themes of scripture, both Hebrew scriptures and the Gospel, and yet the work of reconciling conflict still feels at times: so confounding, so anaphylactic that you might think that we – as a culture, as a Church – have fudged our resumes. And yet, matters of conflict and repentance (or unrepentance) and forgiv…
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Does Being a Christian Make Me a Better Person?
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35:22In this episode we discuss a timeless topic but we are recording it in the context of the new year. It is early January, a time when people are typically thinking about their goals and intentions for the new year. Having habits, goals, etc. isn’t inherently a bad thing! But it becomes tricky when we think we can somehow be “better” people. There is…
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In the midst of a really big season in the life of the church (Christmas!) it’s tempting to think, this is it! This is the best the church has got! And big grand occasions are special in the life of the church. But the church has so much to offer in addition to these big occasions. This week we reflect on how weird and good church can be in the lit…
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Merry Christmas! To help us tell the Christmas story, we present to you: an AAWY Christmas Pageant! Join Laura, Lizzie, Ethan and Jonathan for this episode. After the Pageant, we gab about what we love about pageants. Wishing you a Christmas filled with hope and love. Thank you for supporting And Also With You. Like what you hear? We'd love your su…
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Christmas can be a happy time! But many of us come to this season with heavy hearts. Maybe you have recently lost a job, or maybe you are missing a loved one, or maybe the news cycle has you down. If this is the case, we would like you to know that you are not alone. In our Blue Christmas episode we hold space for everyone who might be feeling a li…
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And Also with You is hosted by two young women Episcopal priests, moms, and deconstructing Christians, The Rev. Laura Di Panfilo and The Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail. Neither one of us grew up Episcopalian and yet both of us have found a home in this faith ... and we know how disorienting it can be for people who are new to liturgical Christianity or w…
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HAPPY NEW YEAR! Advent 1 marks the beginning of a new year on our liturgical calendar. This week we talk through the calendar, what it means to use one to help us make sense of worship, and how to follow along with it. We are joined by our friend Juniper LaNunziata who helps us tackle this big topic! Like what you hear? We'd love your support on Pa…
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Today's episode features a special guest who joins us to talk about an exciting new book! That's right, the Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail is on today to share about her upcoming book "God Didn't Make Us to Hate Us!" Countless Christians are deconstructing the fear-based faith they were handed, but many don’t want to give up on God—they want to love and …
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We’ve planned a pair of episodes this week and next to talk about what is a priest and what is a lay person so as to explain what it means to work and worship within a church that practices different orders of ministry. This week we've invited Maxine King who joins us on her prie-dieu to help us understand the laity and the ministry of the church.…
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We’ve planned a pair of episodes this week and next to talk about what is a priest and what is a lay person so as to explain what it means to work and worship within a church that practices different orders of ministry. This week we've invited the Rev. Julia Macy Offinger on to help us explore the priesthood together. Like what you hear? We'd love …
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This episode will release the day before the US presidential election, but we hope it will be a conversation that speaks to you wherever and whenever it finds you. We are living in stressful times and so Ethan and Laura invited The Rev. Steven D. Paulikas on to share about how Christians locate hope in the midst of political uncertainty. Like what …
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How to Read the Bible Part Two: The Tough Stuff
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48:19This week, Laura and Ethan are joined by Dr. Toni Alimi for a conversation about The Tough Stuff in our scripture and tradition. From Augustine to @ladygaga to materialism to Jacob, we cover a lot of ground, all rooted in the essential question: how do we hold disparate and hard things in tension, especially when it's about our faith? Toni Alimi li…
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The word of God is living and active, but what does this mean? How do we read scripture after it has been used as a tool for harm? Join us for this conversation where Laura and Ethan share some of the things they love about the Bible and some approaches to reading it devotionally in our lives. Like what you hear? We'd love your support on Patreon h…
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What is grief and how might our faith speak to our experiences of loss? We are joined by sad boy Rev. Gregory Stark and guest co-host Rev. Ethan Lowery to talk about life, death, poetry, Eucharist, hamburgers, and grief. The Rev. Gregory Stark is a current PhD student in theology at the University of Cambridge, where he is researching the theology …
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We talk all the time about prayer but ... what exactly is it? What "counts" as prayer? Is prayer a merely intellectual exercise, or conversation, or monologue to God? Or is it embodied? Do we have to "feel" something in prayer? These are the questions we tackle with friends and experts, The Rev. Angela Tyler-Williams and The Rev. Adelyn Tyler-Willi…
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How do we reconstruct our faith after deconstructing?
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48:10When we stand in the rubble of our faith, how do we know what we can rebuild on? When we're ready to lay down our lament and anger at all we were disillusioned by (or maybe even when we're not) how do we take the next step? Let's get into what it means to reconstruct after deconstructing. Rev. Lizzie referenced this article: "Postcolonial Preaching…
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What Does St. Paul REALLY Say About Women in Ministry and Leadership?
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54:25Under nearly every video, photo, or post we make on the internet as two women clergy, there is at least one comment that says: "Paul has entered the chat." It's meant as a snarky condemnation of our work as women leaders in Christian faith, implying - as many believe - that St. Paul thought GOD thought women should never lead. Or speak. Or do anyth…
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“Mom, does God love boys more than girls?” was the question Mariko's daughter asked her that led her on the path that produced The Book of Belonging, a storytelling Bible to help the next generation of kids understand the rich diversity of God’s people, emphasizing identity, contemplation, and wonder. How do we approach the complexity of Scripture …
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Maybe "Biblical Womanhood" is the friends we made along the way. Lizzie and Laura dive into Proverbs 31 in this week's episode. Some Christians have interpreted this passage to be a literal picture of womanhood in a way that has been limiting and restrictive for women. A close reading of this passage reveals that it offers a picture of how EVERYONE…
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What does teen ministry teach us about Jesus?
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36:32In the pressure cooker of extracurriculars and the minefield of navigating autonomy and dependence, caring for teens can be tough in church. But that makes is all the more authentic, and important! Join us for a warmhearted conversation with The Rev. Werner Ramirez, a youth pastor serving in NYC and new dad himself. Like what you hear? We'd love yo…
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Parenting breaks us and build us up, and somewhere in the mess of gathering around toddler tables and in the unutterable losses, God is with us. Sacraments are outward and visible signs of inward spiritual grace -- something we can see, taste, smell, touch, and hear -- that point us to a wild divine pattern interrupting our lives. Join us for a pow…
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