Best Table Variation Podcasts (2025)

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S5 E10 - Doug Finke – From Mainframes to Machine Learning 55:05

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In this episode, I have a conversation with Doug Finke. A 16-time Microsoft MVP and long-time technologist, Doug’s experience ranges from mainframe assembly programming to pioneering AI integrations in software development. We reminisce about the early days of system programming and explore how those foundational skills have enabled technologists l…

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Mule Variations 25th: Willie Nelson, Walt Whitman And Bob's Real Gone 1:01:54

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This episode recorded back in November of 2024 was aging so gracefully we almost forgot to dust it off and take if down from the shelf. It was a little celebration of the 25th anniversary of the release of Mule Variations and has a special alternate "Spiritual" version of Get Behind The Mule. For all you hardcore Tom fans, this one stays squarely c…

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Introduction to Go Un-Pro 12:15

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Follow along with me as I transform my life, improve my health, defeat my weight challenges, and live a longer, healthier life. All while still having a blast traveling through this crazy world! This podcast is the introduction to a 52-week gradual step-by-step transformation of my diet, exercise, sleep, and life-purpose to a more mindful, whole-fo…

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S5 E9 Lonnie Wilson – Carrying On the Deming Torch 41:25

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I have a fantastic conversation with Lonnie Wilson in this episode, diving deep into W. Edwards Deming’s seminal perspectives on quality, systems thinking, and the enduring challenges of operationalizing his philosophy in the real world. Lonnie also shares how his initial admiration for Chevron's management practices began to unravel after encounte…

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S5 E8 - Rebels of Reason Chapter 28 The Saga of Siri (Summary) 4:28

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I'm still trying to figure out how to produce the audiobook for Rebels of Reason. This is my first experiment with 11Labs. It's not great. I will have to work on the voice equipment; however, it's a start. I hope you enjoy it.By John Willis

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S5 E7 - Dr. Bill Bellows - Thinking About Thinking and the In2:InThinking Forum 2025 48:56

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I have a deeply insightful conversation with Dr. Bill Bellows in this episode of the Profound Podcast. We dive into the heart of what it means to think about thinking—a concept that lies at the core of the In2:InThinking Network, a community Dr. Bellows co-founded to carry forward the transformational work of W. Edwards Deming and other systems pio…

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S5 E6 - Jim Highsmith – Navigating the Past to Shape the Future 46:35

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In this episode, I have a fascinating conversation with Jim Highsmith. We dive into Jim’s six-decade career in software development, his role in the Agile movement, and how his early influences continue to shape his thinking on digital transformation today. Jim shares stories from the punch card era to the Agile Manifesto, offering insight into the…

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S5 E5 - Mark Graban – Learning from Mistakes in Lean and Beyond 55:47

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In this episode, I sit down with Mark Graban, a leading voice in Lean and continuous improvement, to explore the enduring relevance of W. Edwards Deming’s principles in modern industries. Mark shares his decades of work in healthcare, manufacturing, and leadership consulting. We dive into key themes from Mark’s career and writing, particularly his …

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S5 E4 - Reuven Cohen – AI, Automation, and the Future of Human Work 57:04

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In this episode, I have a fascinating conversation with Reuven Cohen, someone who I believe is one of the most important voices in AI today. Reuven recounts his journey in technology, from being an early advocate of cloud computing to now working at the cutting edge of AI and reasoning models. He shares insights into how AI is shifting the nature o…

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Tom Waits On SNL: 'Nuff Said. 1:05:35

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Dream Regime reunites after a wee break only to dig deep into Tom and Kathleen's approach to songwriting AND realize that Tom Waits appeared on SNL, which gets featured. Enjoy folks!By Atomic Muse Production

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S5 E3 - Joseph Enochs – DeepSeek, Emergent Behavior, and the Future of Intelligence 54:28

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In this episode, I talk with returning guest Joseph Enochs about the artificial intelligence (AI) world and its implications for businesses and innovation. A major highlight of the conversation is an analysis of DeepSeek, an open-source AI model developed by a Chinese company. Joseph explains how DeepSeek and similar models demonstrate that AI deve…

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S5 E2 - Laksh Raghavan - Multidisciplinary Thinking in Complex Systems Part 2 36:25

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In this episode, I continue my conversation with Laksh Raghavan, a cybersecurity leader and systems thinker, diving into profound insights on applying multidisciplinary approaches to organizational challenges. Picking up from Part 1, this discussion illuminates the principles of W. Edwards Deming and other thought leaders in fostering organizationa…

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MLK Day: RePost Episode from 2018 59:51

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We did this episode early on back in 2018 In celebration of Dr. King's birthday where we paid tribute by reflecting on many of his great sayings and his final message - to serve with "a heart full of grace, and a soul generated by love." With a few of Tom's great songs dealing with the devil, love and houses to bless our journey on this great day.…

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S5 E1 - Laksh Raghavan - Multidisciplinary Thinking in Complex Systems Part 1 38:17

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In this episode of The Profound Podcast, I welcome back cybersecurity expert and systems thinker Laksh Raghavan. Laksh explores how multidisciplinary thinking bridges the gap between theory and practice in solving complex problems. The discussion begins with Laksh's professional journey, highlighting his early dissatisfaction with conventional cons…

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S4 E28 - Dr. Bill Bellows - Bridging Deming, DevOps, and the Power of Systems Thinking Part 2 37:55

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In this second part of my conversation with Dr. Bill Bellows, we continue our deep dive into the profound concepts of W. Edwards Deming and their modern applications in leadership, systems thinking, and operational excellence. Dr. Bellows brings his wealth of experience and insight to tackle complex questions about embedding systems thinking within…

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S4 E27 - Dr. Bill Bellows - Bridging Deming, DevOps, and the Power of Systems Thinking Part 1 41:05

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In this episode, I engage with Dr. Bill Bellows in a deep dive into the application of W. Edwards Deming’s systems thinking in software development and DevOps. Dr. Bellows, a veteran in quality management and an expert in Deming’s principles, shares insights on variation, Taguchi loss functions, and the synthesis of parts in a system to highlight g…

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S4 E26 - An Important In2:In Thinking Announcement 9:54

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In this short episode, I reconnect with Dr. Bill Bellows, a frequent guest and advocate for W. Edwards Deming's principles. The conversation focuses on reviving the In2:In Thinking Network, a nonprofit Dr. Bellows co-founded to improve how individuals and organizations work, learn, and think together. Dr. Bellows discusses the origins of the networ…

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S4 E25 - Dr. David Woods - Resilience and Complexity: Part Two 48:37

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In this second installment of my conversation with Dr. David Woods, we continue our exploration of resilience engineering and complexity science, focusing on practical applications and actionable strategies. Building on the foundational concepts from part one, Dr. Woods offers deeper insights into how organizations can thrive in unpredictable envir…

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S4 E24 - Dr. David Woods - Resilience and Complexity: Part One 47:21

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In this episode, I sit down with Dr. David Woods, a leading expert in resilience engineering and complexity science, for the first of a two-part conversation. Together, we explore the interplay between resilience, complexity, and systems thinking, diving into how these principles intersect with W. Edwards Deming’s transformative ideas on quality an…

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S4 E23 - Tracy Ragan - Tackling DevOps, AI, and Women in Tech 56:32

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In this episode, I invite Tracy Ragan, CEO of DeployHub, on the podcast for an in-depth discussion on the evolution of DevOps, the complexities of modern software systems, and the cultural challenges women face in technology. Tracy's rich history in software development, from working on mainframes in the late 1980s to spearheading DevOps advancemen…

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S4 E22 - Dr. Jabe Bloom - Navigating the Myths and Realities of AI with Pragmatism 1:09:51

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In this episode of The Profound Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Jabe Bloom, a researcher and expert in systems thinking, AI, and digital transformation. We explore Eric Lawson’s book The Myth of AI, tackling the contentious debate around artificial general intelligence (AGI). Dr. Bloom offers insights from his dissertation and divides the ongoing disc…

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S4 E21 - Erik J. Larson - The Myth of AI and Unravelling The Hype 1:04:25

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In this episode of the Profound Podcast, I speak with Erik J. Larson, author of The Myth of Artificial Intelligence, about the speculative nature and real limitations of AI, particularly in relation to achieving Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). Larson delves into the philosophical and scientific misunderstandings surrounding AI, challenging t…

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S4 E20 - Dr. Jabe Bloom - Navigating Complexity with Pragmatic Philosophy 1:05:27

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In this episode of The Profound Podcast, I have an enlightening conversation with Dr. Jabe Bloom, a prominent voice in the fields of DevOps and digital transformation. The discussion revolves around the philosophical underpinnings of scientific reasoning and its application to complex systems, particularly through the lens of Charles Sanders Peirce…

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Thespian Tom: A Sad & Beautiful World, Jim Jarmusch, And Farting In A Can 1:03:28

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This one had to age a few months to reach it's prime but boy was it worth the wait! While Da Scherm hiked in Scotland, the rest of the gang put heads down to listen to the wisdom imparted from the great films featuring Tom Waits. From Down By Law to Short Cuts and Bustered Scruggs (yes he said Bustered) a great conversation on Tom's authentic actin…

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S4 E19 - Andrew Clay Shafer - Unpacking DevOps Evolution and the Future of Digital Transformation 51:47

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In this episode of The Profound Podcast, I speak with Andrew Clay Shafer, a pivotal figure in the DevOps community and a key influencer in the industry. They delve into the evolution of DevOps, its current state, and its implications for the future, particularly in the context of digital transformation. The conversation begins with a reflection on …

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S4 E18 - Joseph Enochs - Embracing AI in the Enterprise 1:15:23

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In this episode, I speak with Joseph Enochs, Managing Director of AI/ML and Emerging Technologies at Enterprise Vision Technologies. Known for his extensive background in DevOps and digital transformation, Joseph shares his remarkable journey transitioning into the AI domain. Joseph begins by recounting how his interest in AI was sparked, notably i…

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S4 E 17 - Dr. Barbara Lawton - Insights on Evolution and Learning in the Digital Age 1:20:44

1y ago1:20:44

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In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Barbara Lawton, a distinguished statistician and expert in experimental design. Dr. Lawton shares her journey from studying biology and ecology to diving deep into statistics, eventually finding herself at the Rocky Flats nuclear weapons facility. It was here she experienced a pivotal moment that led her to W. E…

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S4 E16 - Angela Montgomery - Integrating Deming and Goldratt for Organizational Transformation 58:18

1y ago58:18

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In this insightful episode of the Profound Podcast, I speak with Angela Montgomery, co-founder of Intelligent Management and author of the upcoming book, The Human Constraint. Angela shares her unique journey from a background in arts to collaborating with physicists. The conversation delves into the artificial barriers within organizations, the im…

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S4 E15 - Mike Beck - Engineering Excellence Through Deming's Lens 1:09:12

1y ago1:09:12

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In this episode, I had a conversation with Mike Beck. We dive deep into W. Edwards Deming's seminal perspectives on quality and their application in the automotive and healthcare sectors. Mike, with his vast experience at General Motors and Toyota, shares compelling stories and insights on how Deming's principles transformed his approach to enginee…

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S4 E14 - Rob Park - Navigating Software Evolution through Deming's Principles 53:12

1y ago53:12

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In this episode of the Profound Podcast, I have a conversation with Rob Park. Rob shares his journey from early involvement in extreme programming (XP) to his current fascination with W. Edwards Deming's principles and their application in modern software development. Rob's career path offers a rich tapestry of experiences, from using case tools an…

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S4 E13 - Beth Blankenship - Exploring Deming's Legacy and Modern Applications 1:16:06

1y ago1:16:06

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In this episode, I have a conversation with Beth Blankenship, a seasoned expert in quality management and a fervent disciple of W. Edwards Deming. We dive deep into Deming's profound principles and their continued relevance in today's digital transformation landscape. Beth begins by sharing her journey from an IT background to becoming a passionate…

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Unforgettable: Herb Hardesty, Tom Funeral Songs And The Mouse Tamborine 1:12:45

1y ago1:12:45

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Back in the Saddle again, this week the Dream Regime ponders the Unforgettable, the moments, the memories, the madness. An episode for the major Tom Waits fan, with a retelling of the Origin Story from the Georgian Terrace Hotel Bar replete with the illustrious Herb Hardesty and the wavy mop of hair only a young Tom in leather jacket could sport. F…

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S4 E12 - Dr. Jabe Bloom - Temporal Design and Digital Transformation 57:38

1y ago57:38

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In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Jabe Bloom, an expert in design studies and organizational theory. Recently completing his PhD at Carnegie Mellon, Dr. Bloom brings a fresh perspective on the intersection of temporality, complexity, and design, particularly in the context of digital transformation in IT and other industries. We dive into the nu…

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S4 E11 - John Dues - Transforming Education Through Deming's Principles 51:14

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In this episode of the Profound Podcast, I'm joined by John Dues, Chief Learning Officer at United Schools Network in Ohio and an innovative educator who has ingeniously applied W. Edwards Deming's theories to the educational sector. John shares his journey of discovery into Deming's methodologies and how these have profoundly influenced his approa…

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S4 E10 - Ariane David, PhD - Embracing Uncertainty in Transformation 53:55

1y ago53:55

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In this episode of the Profound Podcast, I have the pleasure of speaking with Ariane David, PhD, an insightful thinker and academic who delves into the principles of non-positional thinking and its profound impact on personal and organizational learning. We explore how W. Edwards Deming's theories on quality and continuous improvement intersect wit…

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S4 E9 - Bill Bellows - Unveiling the Spectrum of System Thinking Part 2 55:18

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In the second episode of my two-part discussion with Bill Bellows, we explore the nuanced realms of quality management, variation, and integration, drawing from the rich legacy of W. Edwards Deming and Genichi Taguchi, and their profound impact on industries ranging from automotive to aerospace. Bill Bellows shares enlightening perspectives on the …

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S4 E8 - Bill Bellows - Unveiling the Spectrum of System Thinking Part 1 55:15

1+ y ago55:15

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In the first part of a two-part series with Bill Bellows, we delve deep into the essence of system thinking and its pivotal role in shaping organizations. Bellows leads us on a journey exploring the nuanced differences between 'Red Pen' and 'Blue Pen' organizations, and beyond, into the realms of 'Me' versus 'We' and the collective impact of every …

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S4 E7 - Dave Nave - Engineering Quality and Transformation with Deming's Legacy 1:05:13

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In this episode of the Profound Podcast, I had the pleasure of engaging with Dave Nave, a multifaceted expert with a rich background in engineering, quality improvement, and business management consulting. Through his work and studies, Nave has delved deep into W. Edwards Deming's philosophies, applying these principles across various sectors with …

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S4 E6 - Dr. Khai Minh Pham - Redefining Our Understanding of AI 53:29

1+ y ago53:29

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In this episode of Profound, I talk with Dr. Khai Minh Pham, whose unique approach to artificial intelligence challenges conventional paradigms and opens new frontiers in AI research and application. Dr. Pham, with his extensive background in both medicine and artificial intelligence, shares his journey towards creating a distinctive AI framework t…

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Sheriff King: Stint In The Mint, Iggy Pop, And The BJ Bootcamp 1:08:12

1+ y ago1:08:12

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The Regime's all here for a trip into the Ides of March and all things Roman, starting "In The Coliseum". Now we've all had one that "got away" but in this episode those stories come to light in a mind-bending raucous glory that'll bring you to your knees. With a tribute song to Tom Waits, weird Gregorian Calendar chants and an LA nightmare. Feel t…

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S4 E5 - Richard Steele - Navigating Cultural Shifts with Deming's Philosophy 43:52

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In this episode of the Profound Podcast, I engage in an insightful conversation with Richard Steele, founder and president of Peeker Services. We explore his journey from rebuilding locomotives to embracing W. Edwards Deming's principles, leading to a radical change in his company's management practices, particularly around performance appraisals a…

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S4 E4 - Bill Bellows - Unraveling Complexity in Safety and Quality Part 2 40:24

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In part two of their discussion, John Willis engages in a deep dive with Bill Bellows on the multifaceted world of safety, quality, and systems thinking. Inspired by the pioneering work of Sydney Decker, Dr. Woods, and Erik Hollnagel, they explore the nuanced perspectives on safety and quality that transcend conventional understanding. John and Bil…

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Hip Magazine: Foam Suits, Funny Bone Explosion And Never Paint The Roof On Thanksgiving 1:06:55

1+ y ago1:06:55

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Are you hip? Or broken down on the ice? Once again, the Dream Regime gathers and this time out comes cautionary tales full of speed bumps from hell, jewel saws run amuck, falling past windows onto flagstone and a little saggy skin broken elbows, dude. We're talkin wall to wall stories with a bit of the blarney digression to relieve the pain, this i…

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S4 E3 - Bill Bellows - Navigating Organizations Through a Systems Lens Part 1 34:16

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In this episode, I sit down once again with Bill Bellows to explore the interconnected nature of quality thinking. Our conversation ventures beyond traditional boundaries, drawing on Bill's unique insights into systemic thinking and its implications for organizational excellence. We delve into the philosophy of interconnectedness, illustrating how …

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S4 E2 - Derek Lewis - Legacy of Quality Control Pioneers 30:18

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I have a great discussion between Derek Lewis and John Willis, focusing on the historical and philosophical underpinnings of quality control and those who were paramount to the movement including Walter Shewhart, W. Edwards Deming, and Joseph M. Juran. The dialogue includes anecdotes, critiques, and appreciations of Shewhart and Deming's work, incl…

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S4 E1 - Adam Hawkins - Seeking Quality in the Digital Landscape 58:19

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I have an enlightening conversation with Adam Hawkins in this episode. We dive deep into W. Edwards Deming's seminal perspectives on quality. Our dialogue explores how this expansive framing of quality requires connecting producers and consumers in a broader system. We relate these concepts to service level objectives (SLOs) and their role in quant…

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S3 E9 - Bill Bellows - Genichi Taguchi and Quality - Part 2 48:02

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In this second part of a two-part series, I speak with Bill Bellows about W. Edwards Deming's influence on Japanese manufacturing, specifically Toyota. We discuss Deming's relationship with Genichi Taguchi and how their quality philosophies intersect and complement each other. We explore Deming and Taguchi's differing notions of quality - meeting s…

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S3 E8 - Bill Bellows - Genichi Taguchi and Quality - Part 1 55:50

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In this first part of a two-part series, I chat with Bill Bellows in this episode. Bill gave us a little history of his introduction to Genichi Taguchi's methods and quality concepts while working as an engineer in the jet engine industry. We explore key ideas around variability reduction, precision vs accuracy, process capability, and Taguchi's lo…

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Remembrance: Tom Waits, Iggy Pop, Spinning Tunes on BBC Radio 6 1:10:21

1+ y ago1:10:21

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This episode the dream regime shares past dreams of Tom Waits after discovering some exciting news - that on Sunday December 3rd, Tom Waits will co-host a special radio show with Iggy Pop during the latter’s regular BBC Radio 6 Music slot. They will share old stories and spin some of their favorite tunes so check it out folks. Feel the Love!…

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Ghosted Again: Hank 3 and Playing Piano On The Set Of The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs 1:12:48

1+ y ago1:12:48

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Happy Halloween folks! In honor, we pay tribute to all the Ghosts we've crossed paths with, those who've Ghosted us and the afterlife. Spooky, haunting and full of cantankerous spirits this episode also has a little suprise from the set of the Coen Brothers film. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs. For all you young and cool fans, Bob couldn't make it, b…