Welcome to the first episode of “Survivors Discuss.” Join Cait West, Shari Smith and me Clare Heath-McIvor (the podcastor previously known as Kit Kennedy) as we host panel discussions on the trends and topics that often haunt those who leave toxic churches, organisations and high control religion. This project popped up when we all decided to sit with the wonderful Tia Levings and talk about her experience in IBLP, and of course on the trailblazing documentary, “Shiny Happy People.” We hope ...
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DL and Krispin Mayfield - Strongwilled and not mourning James Dobson
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1:30:35We’re talking with Krispin and D.L. Mayfield about their project over on Substack called Strongwilled. James Dobson and Focus on the Family have impacted millions of people with their teachings about corporal punishment and breaking the will of children. Many of these children have grown up to speak out about how traumatic their upbringing was. Wha…
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International House of Prayer Kansas City - a Pseudo-church in scandal
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1:28:06In this episode, Shari, Cait and Clare sit down with the wonderful Nikki G (from @nikki_g_speaks) and Jo (from @_bytheirfruit). Both courageous women were involved in the International House of Prayer in Kansas, which has recently been embroiled in scandal as Mike Bickle, the head of the movement, faces allegations of egregious wrongdoing. CW: this…
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Cults - Their leaders, their methods, their damage
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1:20:17Today on the podcast, we’re talking all things cults and cult recovery! Experts Janja Lalich and Nikki G join us to share their experience with political and religious cults and how they now work with others who are processing the aftermath of leaving high-control groups. We cover why people join cults (hint: it’s not because they’re unintelligent)…
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CTPSD -The Great Parting Gift From Toxic Religion
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1:03:26Therapist Dr. Laura Anderson and faith deconstruction coach Angela Herrington join Shari and Cait to discuss Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD). So many survivors experience CPTSD, particularly when we’ve grown up in high-demand religions and/or abusive homes. Healing isn’t easy, but it is possible! We talk about different ways to get s…
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Christianity, Race and White Supremacy - The lived experience and the road to anti-racism
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1:16:19We have the honor of interviewing LaToya Thompson, Naiomi Gonzalez, and R. Scott Okamoto as our guests for this episode to talk about racism in evangelicalism, decolonizing faith, intersectionality, and what it means to be an anti-racist as we move forward. White supremacy has deep roots in evangelicalism, and all too often, racist ideas and attitu…
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Purity Culture - What Data and Embodiment PracticeTeach Us About Recovery
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1:30:42Clare, Shari, and Cait interview Tara Teng and Rebecca Gregoire-Lindenbach on their groundbreaking work in terms of sexuality. Rebecca is part of the mother daughter dynamic duo behind The Great Sex Rescue - where large scale surveys capture life-changing and insightful data into female sexuality, relationships and abuse within church contexts. Tar…
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The Way We Were - Our Lives Before Deconstruction
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54:59Clare, Shari, and Cait share their own journeys to healing after growing up in toxic fundamentalist Christianity. From mental health struggles and PTSD, to losing family and friends, leaving can mean the upheaval of our lives, but it can also be a way to connect back with our intuition, learn to trust ourselves again, and find the confidence to mak…
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Shiny Happy IBLP Life - The reach, the impact and the life after
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1:26:17Join us - Clare, Shari and Cait - as we chat with the wonderful Tia Levings and compare our lives and the varying levels of impact that Gothard, IBLP and Vision Forum had on all of us - even those of us who thought we were too far removed to be in the target zone for proselytising. From homophobia, transphobia and "subtle" racism to homeschooling f…
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