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Thomas Edison, Toni Morrison, Lebron James, Halle Berry, Neil Armstrong, Gloria Steinem, eight U.S. presidents, Dean Martin, Dave Chappelle, The Wright brothers — The list of noteworthy people from Ohio is as long as it is diverse. Bob Hope, Steven Spielberg, Phyllis Diller, Jonathan Winters, John Glenn, Cy Young, John D. Rockefeller, George Steinbrenner, Ted Turner, The Isley Brothers, Lillian Gish — It’s not just long, some find it exhausting … unless you’re From Ohio. For whatever reason, ...
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Arthur Brooks might be the only Working It Out guest who's crossed paths with Jerry Seinfeld, Oprah Winfrey, and the Dalai Lama. He’s a professor and bestselling author, whose books include The Happiness Files, From Strength to Strength, and Build the Life You Want, which he co-authored with Oprah. Mike sits down with Arthur, whose speciality is th…
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This week, Pete Holmes returns to the studio for one of Working It Out’s most joke-dense episodes ever. Mike and Pete work out jokes about strangers in hot tubs, why Jerry Seinfeld sounds like his own name, and how cool guys in movies swallow their pills without water. Plus, the comedy advice Pete wishes he knew when he was starting out. Want more …
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The last time comedian Vir Das was on Working It Out, he and Mike discussed the intense reaction to a piece he performed called “Two Indias.” Now Vir returns to share how he moved on from the controversy, and all the ups and downs he’s experienced since then, including: literally losing his voice just weeks before sold out shows in Mumbai, writing …
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Eric Carmen was a power-pop, singer-songwriter phenom. A musical prodigy, at age 13 he attended the Cleveland Institute of Music where he studied violin among other instruments. Seeing the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show in 1964, however, shifted his focus. From then on, rock & roll became his passion. I recently spoke with a friend, Ken Wyban, who…
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Jesus, as the Messiah, embodies the past, present, and future hope of humanity by meeting profound spiritual and physical needs through miraculous healing and provision, demonstrating that His ministry is a foretaste of the coming eternal kingdom. The healing of the blind, lame, mute, and crippled in the Decapolis—despite the region's pagan idolatr…
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On the heels of her new special “Unspeakable Things,” Leanne Morgan joins the podcast this week to talk Southern beauty shop gossip, getting started in comedy selling jewelry door to door, and in what way Mike is “her Elvis.” Plus, the time Leanne may or may not have been picked up in an SUV by President George W. Bush. Please consider donating to …
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This sermon presents a powerful exposition of authentic faith through the story of a Canaanite woman who persistently seeks Jesus despite three escalating obstacles: His silence, His declaration that He was sent only to Israel, and His metaphorical reference to her as a dog. The preacher emphasizes that true faith is not merely intellectual assent …
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This lesson presents a robust theological and apologetic critique of Islam as a prominent biblical counterfeit, arguing that while it borrows key elements of the Christian worldview—such as monotheism, prophetic revelation, and a sacred text—it fundamentally fails to uphold the preconditions of intelligibility due to internal inconsistencies, arbit…
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Todd Glass was one of the first comics Mike opened for. It’s easy to see how, since then, Todd has become one of the most beloved comic of his generation, revered by comics including Nikki Glaser, Judd Apatow, and Rory Scovel. Now Mike and Todd sit down for a discussion about how coming out changed Todd’s life and his comedy, Todd’s heart attack ba…
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This lesson presents a presuppositional critique of 'imminent moralism'—a category of religions like Confucianism and Buddhism that prioritize moral codes for this life without appealing to transcendent authority. It argues that such systems fail the PIA (Preconditions of Intelligibility, Inconsistency, and Arbitrariness) test: they lack a transcen…
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This week poet J. Hope Stein & Mike’s wife ‘Clo’ returns to the podcast. Jen reads original poetry that Mike uses as inspiration for his bits—and the two dispute whose side of the story is being told in each. Mike and Jen discuss helpful vs. unhelpful artistic feedback, the difference between Mike in real life and Mike on the podcast, and Mike has …
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Evangelism : The Message Content - Jesus is Alive -- Passages of Scripture // 1 Cor 15:14, 17 // Romans 6:4-5 // 2 Cor 4:14 // The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the foundational truth of the Christian faith, rendering all else meaningful or futile; without it, preaching is empty, faith is vain, and believers remain trapped in their sins. The serm…
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Mike met Nick Offerman years ago at the Sasquatch! Music Festival in Washington state, which is fitting because Nick is a man of nature, almost as well known for his woodworking as he is for his acting. After examining the Working It Out studio table, Nick tells Mike about what it was like to act as the straight man to Amy Poehler on Parks and Rec,…
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Evangelism : The Message Content - Philippians 2:5-11 The sermon centers on the incarnational subordination and humiliation of Jesus Christ as the foundation of the gospel, drawing from Philippians 2:5–11 to illustrate how Jesus, though equal with God, voluntarily veiled Himself of divine glory, took on human form, and submitted to obedience—even t…
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Comedian Caleb Hearon just turned 30 and he’s already got an hour-long HBO special, hosts a hit podcast (So True with Caleb Hearon), and was named one of the top social media influencers of 2025 by Rolling Stone. But it hasn’t been an easy road. Caleb talks with Mike about his battles with suicidal ideation, how improv comedy saved his life, and ho…
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The central message of the sermon is that true defilement originates not from external actions or ritualistic traditions, but from the heart—where evil thoughts, sins, and moral corruption reside. Drawing from Matthew 15:1–20, the pastor argues that Jesus confronts both legalism and antinomianism by exposing the Pharisees' hypocrisy in prioritizing…
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The great Jenny Slate joins Mike this week for a wide-ranging conversation about getting hypnotized after being fired from SNL, a graduation speech Jenny gave to a class of one person, and making art to feel less lonely. Plus, jokes and stories about seeing your friends naked, improv classes for the elderly, and the time Jenny’s faked case of appen…
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The lesson presents a presuppositional critique of secular dualism, arguing that while it acknowledges both spirit and matter—making it more coherent than materialistic atomism—it ultimately fails because it cannot account for the preconditions of intelligibility, such as logic, morality, and uniformity of nature without resorting to arbitrary myth…
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Best of WIO: Questlove (Recorded April 2025) The legendary Ahmir Thompson (aka Questlove) sits down for his first appearance on Working It Out. Mike and Questlove discuss touring with his father’s band as a kid, every DJ’s worst nightmare, and how jealousy and self-sabotage can affect even a member of a band as iconic as The Roots. Plus, what it wa…
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The sermon centers on the dual identity of Jesus as both Lord (Adonai) and Christ (Messiah), demonstrating through the narrative of Jesus walking on the water and healing the sick that He is divine and the promised human deliverer. The passage from Matthew 14:22–36 reveals Jesus as God in the flesh—walking on water, commanding nature, and being rec…
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The lesson presents the problem of evil not as a logical contradiction to Christian theism, but as a psychological and existential challenge rooted in human rebellion, arguing that the very ability to recognize evil presupposes the existence of God. Using presuppositional apologetics, it demonstrates that unbelievers cannot consistently affirm evil…
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This week the one and only Sebastian Maniscalco sits down with Mike for a wide ranging conversation on their parenting strengths and weaknesses, the difference in what makes them cry, and Sebastian’s early days waiting on his future co-star Robert DeNiro. Plus, Sebastian reveals if he ever acts like Sebastian offstage. Please Consider Donating To: …
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This sermon, centered on the miracle of the feeding of the 5,000, presents Jesus as the culmination of biblical history—our perfect example, our divine teacher, and the sum of all our hopes. Through a richly woven narrative, it reveals how Jesus recapitulates the fall, the Exodus, and the promised land, fulfilling the Old Testament's types and shad…
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The lesson confronts the problem of evil not as a purely intellectual dilemma, but as a manifestation of the fallen human heart's rebellion against God's sovereignty. It critiques common Christian defenses—such as the free will, best possible world, and divine weakness arguments—for relying on unbiblical philosophy rather than Scripture, and for fa…
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This week Mike sits down with Julio Torres to talk comedy writing and color theories. Based on ideas posited in Julio’s new Off-Broadway solo show, Color Theories, the two of them get to the bottom of what color Barbie the Movie, Martha Stewart, and Jeremy Strong are. They also discuss the behind-the-scenes story of Julio’s viral SNL sketch, “Papyr…
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The sermon, drawn from Acts 12:1–24, presents a powerful theological narrative illustrating that when humanity opposes God, victory is always His alone—though the wicked may appear to prosper temporarily, their schemes inevitably unravel, leading to humiliation and judgment, as seen in Herod's failed attempt to destroy the church, his subsequent do…
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The lesson presents a comprehensive presuppositional apologetic case against the theory of evolution, arguing that it fails both as a worldview and as a scientific explanation, while the biblical account of Genesis 1–11 demonstrates verisimilitude—meaning it accurately reflects the real world. By systematically dismantling evolutionary assumptions …
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Comedian and SNL writer KC Shornima might be the only Working It Out guest who has climbed Mount Kilimanjaro. KC and Mike get to the bottom of why she thrives in stressful situations like mountain climbing, camping on a glacier, and writing for Weekend Update. Mike asks KC some questions from her bosses, Michael Che and Colin Jost, and KC explains …
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In the face of overwhelming evil and suffering, this sermon draws from Psalm 13 to affirm that believers can still trust God even when evil appears to triumph. Centered on the tension between raw lament and unwavering faith, the message emphasizes that while believers may feel abandoned, God's faithful love—His covenantal chesed—remains constant. T…
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The sermon explored the enduring message of the hymn 'It Is Well,' tracing its origins in the profound loss experienced by Horatio Spafford, whose life mirrored the biblical story of Job. Examining Spafford's biography alongside the hymn's theological underpinnings, the message emphasized finding contentment and assurance in Christ regardless of ci…
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Three years ago, comedian Ryan Hamilton was hit by an airport shuttle bus. Two years ago, Ryan came on Working It Out to talk about the experience. Now, he returns to explain how he learned to talk about the traumatic event on stage and find the humor in the pain, which included buying weed with his mom during his recovery. Ryan also breaks down th…
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The sermon emphasizes the necessity of evangelism, framing it as a crucial task for all Christians, rooted in the understanding of God as creator and humanity's subsequent rebellion. Drawing parallels to Old Testament narratives of judgment, the message underscores the gravity of sin and the need for salvation through Christ, advocating for proacti…
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This lesson presents a comprehensive defense of the biblical flood account through presuppositional apologetics, arguing that the biblical worldview uniquely explains geological, biological, and historical evidence. It contends that Genesis 1–11 should be read as historical narrative, not poetry, and that the global flood provides a coherent explan…
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