If something happened to you tomorrow… would your family know what to do? Estate planning can feel overwhelming. It’s easy to keep putting it off, thinking you’ll get to it tomorrow. You know it matters, but you’re not sure who to trust or where to start. Only 1 in 3 families have an estate plan in place. That statistic is sobering when you realize death is the only guarantee in life. Not taking action can cost your family time, money, and peace. The Legacy of Love podcast simplifies estate ...
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We feature tips and stories from industry professionals who specialize in making estate planning, end-of-life tasks, and transitions more manageable.
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Feel Like You’re the Family Glue? Why You Need More Than an Estate Plan to Stop Carrying It All
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35:48Are you the one holding everything together, from aging parents to kids, finances, and emotions, and wondering how long you can keep doing it all? You're not imagining it: the pressure on women in the "sandwich generation" is intense. In this deeply validating conversation, host, Sara Ecklein welcomes Johanna Eigen, a systems integrator for familie…
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The 3 Biggest Estate Planning Mistakes I See as a Trustee (And How You Can Avoid Them)
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12:31Are you making one of these estate planning mistakes without even realizing it? You signed the documents. You checked the box. But what if your estate plan could still fail your family when it matters most? Even the most beautifully drafted plan can unravel if key, often overlooked, steps are missed. In this episode, host Sara Ecklein, professional…
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Estate Planning 101: Moms, What You Need to Know in 15 Minutes
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15:25Are you putting off estate planning because it feels confusing, overwhelming, or just not urgent? If estate planning feels overwhelming, you're not alone. In this special episode, Sara distills insights from over 50 expert conversations into the clearest, most actionable guidance for women raising kids and caring for aging parents. No fluff, just t…
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Episode 31: Joseph Schott - Resilience, Legacy, Creativity
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50:57In this powerful and deeply moving episode of the LilyList podcast, we are honored to welcome Joseph Schott, a man who has witnessed over a century of change, challenge, and triumph. Born in 1922, Joe shares an extraordinary life story that spans from the hardships of the Great Depression to his vital work as a Navy radio technician in WWII, a dist…
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Did You Complete Your Estate Plan? Mom’s, Here’s How to Prepare Your Successor Trustee for the Job
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16:49If something happened to you tomorrow, would your successor trustee know exactly what to do, or would they be left overwhelmed and unprepared? Estate planning isn't just about signing documents, it's about setting your loved ones up for clarity and peace during some of life’s hardest moments. This episode speaks directly to women balancing family a…
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Why Pushing Your Aging Parents Into Estate Planning Doesn’t Work And What To Do Instead
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33:36Have you tried talking to your parents about estate planning, only to be met with resistance or emotional shutdown? If you're a mom juggling caregiving, work, and your own family, these conversations can feel like walking a tightrope. In this episode, host Sara Ecklein is joined by Jill Mastroianni, former practicing estate planning attorney and ho…
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Stressed Out by Caregiving? 5 Quick Tips for Moms to Reclaim Their Energy
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10:15Between caregiving, motherhood, and the mental load of “doing it all,” it’s easy to forget your needs. In this heart-felt, honest episode, host Sara Ecklein shares five quick and practical tips that are helping her manage stress while navigating a big life transition and how you can use them too. In this episode, you will: Learn how to find micro-m…
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Feeling Overwhelmed by Estate Planning? This 6-Step Framework Will Help You Start Today & Plan with Confidence
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12:09Feeling overwhelmed by estate planning and unsure where to begin, especially while juggling kids and caring for aging parents? You’re not alone. Many delay planning because it feels too complicated, emotional, or just plain scary. But what if there was a clear, empowering path that helped you move from intention to action without the confusion? In …
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Death, Ritual, and Mushrooms: Creating Eco-Friendly Coffins With Jordanna Ibghy
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20:44What if your final act on Earth could help heal it? In this episode of The Buried in Work Podcast, Adam speaks with Jordanna Ibghy, architect and founder of Urth Ritual, a Brooklyn-based company crafting biodegradable mycelium-based burial products. Jordanna shares how mushrooms are not just symbols of renewal, but active agents in creating eco-fri…
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Think You’ve Done Enough? Why Your Estate Plan Might Still Fail the People You Love Most
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12:32Is your estate plan truly aligned with your values, or was it just another box to check off the to-do list? Many people assume they’re “covered” because they have a will or trust in place. But without integrity—the alignment between your documents, decisions, values, and the people involved—your plan could leave behind legal messes and fractured re…
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Why “Set It and Forget It” Estate Planning Is Failing Women
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10:53Is the person you were ten years ago making decisions for your family’s future today? Too many approach estate planning as a one-and-done task, missing a crucial truth: your identity and life evolves. And when your plan stays stuck in the past, it can't reflect who you’ve become, or the legacy you truly want to leave. If you're juggling caregiving,…
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How to Care for Aging Parents Without Burning Out With Gerontologist Janice Goldmintz
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35:53Are you feeling overwhelmed trying to support your aging parents while juggling everything else? In this powerful episode, Adam Zuckerman sits down with gerontologist Janice Goldmintz, who shares her lived experience and professional insights to help families navigate aging, caregiving, and end-of-life planning before a crisis hits. If you're part …
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The Power of Intention: How Moms Can Shape a Legacy That Lasts Beyond a Lifetime
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8:35What if your estate plan could tell your story, not just divide your assets? Too often, estate planning is reduced to legal documents and a list of assets. But if you’re a woman balancing the care of your children and your aging parents, you know your legacy is about more than money, it's about meaning. This episode helps you move beyond fear and s…
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What will your children say about you at your funeral? As mothers in the sandwich generation, it’s easy to get caught up in the busyness of life - juggling work, caregiving, and constant to-dos, while delaying the deeper question of legacy. This episode offers a powerful pause to reevaluate what truly matters and how you're showing up now, not just…
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Early Planning for Aging Parents: Prevent Crisis with These Essential Steps With Laura Morrissey
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27:00Are you ready if your parents suddenly need care? Most families aren’t until they’re forced to be. In this episode, aging specialist and Silver Savvy founder Laura Lynn Morrissey shares how to avoid last-minute decisions and start planning now with clarity and confidence. With her experience in financial services, healthcare, and home care, Laura h…
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How to Find and Hire the Right Estate Planning Attorney So Your Family Isn’t Left With a Mess
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11:23Mothers, Before You Hire an Estate Planning Attorney — Listen to This First If you're a mother thinking about your family's future, you already know how important it is to protect what matters most. But how do you find the right estate planning attorney — one who sees the full picture of your life, your legacy, and your values? In this episode of T…
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Succession Plans That Start With Legal Docs Are Backwards—Mothers, Here’s What To Do Instead
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39:59Are you part of a family business—or raising a child while running one—and wondering what a successful succession plan actually looks like? Family businesses are built with heart, legacy, and relationships, but succession can quickly become a source of stress, confusion, or even conflict. Whether you’re a business owner eyeing retirement or a next-…
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How to Prevent Family Chaos at the End of Life With Sara Ecklein
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42:11This conversation dives into grief, legacy, innovation, and how one woman transformed a deeply personal loss into a mission-driven company that’s changing how we honor our loved ones. In this episode of the Buried in Work podcast, Adam speaks with Adelle Archer, co-founder and CEO of Eterneva — a company that transforms the ashes or hair of loved o…
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Why We Avoid Estate Planning & How to Start from a Place of Love (Even as a Busy Mother)
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9:44Are you avoiding estate planning—but can't really explain why? It's not just about time, money, or overwhelm. In this episode of Legacy of Love, host Sara Ecklein reveals the deeper reason we delay this critical work and how that resistance could jeopardize the very legacy we hope to leave behind. If you're raising kids and caring for aging parents…
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How a Mother of 10 Faced Her Husband’s Terminal Diagnosis and Turned Their Final Months Into a Legacy of Love
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26:46What would you do if your spouse had just six months left to live? Grief is often a topic we avoid—until life forces it upon us. In this deeply moving episode of the Legacy of Love Podcast, host Sara Ecklein sits down with Amy Shaw, a mother of 10, widow, and author of Navigating Goodbye, who faced unimaginable loss and found strength through radic…
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This Company Turns Human Ashes Into Diamonds And It’s Changing the Way We Heal After Loss
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31:20This conversation dives into grief, legacy, innovation, and how one woman transformed a deeply personal loss into a mission-driven company that’s changing how we honor our loved ones. In this episode of the Buried in Work podcast, Adam speaks with Adelle Archer, co-founder and CEO of Eterneva — a company that transforms the ashes or hair of loved o…
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Emotional Insurance for Your Family: How to Build a Legacy of Love They’ll Feel
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33:38If tomorrow never comes, will your family be left with love—or just unanswered questions? Most people wait too long to talk about death, until it’s too late. But what you do now determines how your family will heal, remember, and carry on. In this powerful episode, grief counselor and death doula Dr. Kimberly Harms reveals how to create an emotiona…
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You Only Get One Funeral: Emily Miller on Green Burial, Ritual, and Returning to the Earth
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28:13What if your final resting place could help restore nature instead of harm it? In this episode of the Buried in Work podcast, licensed funeral director, certified life cycle celebrant, and founder of the Colorado Burial Preserve, Emily B. Miller, joins us to explore how green burial is more than an eco-friendly alternative—it’s a return to somethin…
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How Even the Closest Families End Up in Court (And What You Can Do to Prevent It)
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45:15What happens when no one agrees on who should manage a loved one’s care or their money? This week, Sara shares her recent guest appearance on The Death Readiness Podcast with host Jill Mastroianni. Many families avoid estate planning and care conversations, only to face conflict, confusion, or crisis when decisions can no longer be delayed. This ep…
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Kevin McKay on the Green Revolution in Cremation Recycling
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40:04Did you know your dental fillings or titanium hip could be pulled from the ashes and turned into something that changes lives and saves the planet? In this powerful episode, Adam sits down with Kevin McKay, Director at Cremation Recycling, to uncover the truth about what really happens to metal after cremation. This is not the conversation you expe…
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Don’t Miss the Signs: How to Spot Financial Fraud and Protect Your Aging Parents
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24:51Financial fraud targets more than money—it preys on trust. Uncover the warning signs and take steps to protect your family. In this eye-opening episode, Sara Ecklein sits down with forensic accountant Kelly Todd to uncover how financial misconduct often begins quietly, close to home, and why older adults are especially at risk. From emotional manip…
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The Power of Thanatology. Why Grief Isn’t Meant to Be Fixed with Dr. Korie Leigh
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23:43"If a child is old enough to love, a child is old enough to grieve." We often treat grief like a problem that needs solving. But what if it's not something to fix, but something to understand, live with and honor? In this powerful conversation of Buried in Work, Dr. Korie Leigh, certified thanatologist and program director at Marian University, hel…
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The Most Overlooked Part of Your Estate Plan: Securing Your Digital Legacy
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35:58You’ve secured your assets, but what about your email, cloud storage, and online identity? Most estate plans focus on wills, trusts, and life insurance, but forget the digital footprint we all leave behind. In this eye-opening episode, Certified Executor Advisor David Edey explains why digital asset planning is essential to avoid stress, confusion,…
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Helping People Grieve by Sorting Through the Chaos of Death with Rachel Donnelly
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24:39Did you know most people don’t have time to grieve because they’re too busy canceling Netflix and clearing out the fridge? In this episode of Buried in Work, Rachel Donnelly, founder of AfterLight and author of Late to Your Own Funeral, talks about what really happens after someone dies? The grief, the overwhelm, the paperwork, and the flaming dump…
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Building More Than a Business: Legacy Planning Insights Every Entrepreneur Needs Now
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36:41Is your business success translating into a lasting legacy for your family? Many entrepreneurs focus on growing their business, but overlook the equally important work of protecting their wealth and preparing the next generation. In this episode, Peter Culver shares expert strategies for designing a legacy that aligns your financial success with yo…
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The #1 Regret of the Dying: Death Doula Kacie Gikonyo on Living With No Regrets
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38:42When death doula Kacie Gikonyo held the hands of hundreds of people in their final moments, she kept hearing the same thing again and again: "I wish I had spent more time living… and less time working." In this episode of Buried in Work, Death Doula Kacie Gikonyo, founder of the Death Doula Collective and Death Doula School, joins us to share the r…
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What Is a Death Doula? Embracing Our Mortality to Live Fully and Create a Meaningful Legacy
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41:57We plan for birth, so why don’t we plan for death with the same care and reverence? Death is inevitable, yet most of us avoid talking about it—leaving ourselves and our loved ones unprepared. In this conversation, death doula Jill McClennen shares how end-of-life planning, grief rituals, and intentional presence can transform both the dying process…
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Dignity in Death and Privacy Protection Act of 2025
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31:33In this episode of Buried in Work, Adam Zuckerman speaks with Jess Wakefield, funeral director and Director of Partnerships at Better Place Forests, and Don Gilmartin, trauma cleanup entrepreneur and advocate. Together, they are pioneering the Dignity in Death and Privacy Protection Act of 2025—a proposed federal law that would make it illegal to p…
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Grief, Goodbye & the Gift of Presence: A Chaplain’s End‑of‑Life Wisdom to Help You Live Fully and Leave a Meaningful Legacy
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39:51In the end, presence—not perfection—is what truly leaves a legacy. End-of-life moments offer a clarity about what matters most, but we don't have to wait for loss to start living with intention. In this heartfelt episode, hospital chaplain Christine Davies shares lessons from nearly 20 years of walking alongside people in their final days, offering…
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How to Inherit Values, Not Just Wealth with Denise McCLain
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32:25𝙃𝙤𝙬 𝙙𝙤 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙨𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙛𝙖𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙮 𝙙𝙤𝙚𝙨𝙣’𝙩 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙞𝙣𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙞𝙩 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙢𝙤𝙣𝙚𝙮—𝙗𝙪𝙩 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙙𝙨𝙚𝙩, 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙢𝙞𝙨𝙨𝙞𝙤𝙣, 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙢𝙚𝙖𝙣𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙤𝙤? In this episode of Buried in Work, Denise McClain, Director at Hirtle Callaghan and one of the country’s leading experts on multigenerational wealth, estate planning, and philanthropy, talks about how families can pass down more th…
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How Illness Affects the Whole Family—And What Caregivers Need to Know About Mental Health and Burnout
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44:46Is your family navigating illness without the tools to talk about it? You’re not alone. A serious diagnosis impacts more than just the person receiving it—it disrupts entire family systems. In this compassionate conversation, therapist Chelsea Kramer explores how to support loved ones through health challenges while maintaining open communication a…
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Adam Zuckerman on How Losing His Dad Led to Buried in Work (Special Episode with Jared Rizzi)
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32:13“This project feels like my dad is still with me. It’s something he’d be proud of.” In this episode of Buried in Work, founder Adam Zuckerman steps out from behind the mic and into the guest seat—interviewed by longtime friend and co-host Jared Rizzi. Visit buriedinwork.com for the FULL SHOW NOTESBy Adam Zuckerman
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What LGBTQ+ Families Need to Know About Estate Planning (And Why It’s Different)
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46:22Estate planning isn’t one-size-fits-all, especially when you’re LGBTQ+. Traditional estate plans often miss the mark for LGBTQ+ individuals and families, leaving identity, healthcare access, and chosen family unprotected. In this episode, attorney Rebecca Secord shares how to create an inclusive, affirming plan that truly reflects who you are and t…
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How Estate Planning (or Lack of It) Affects Grieving Spouses with Jasmine Hathaway
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23:24In this episode of Buried in Work, Jasmine Hathaway, founder of Compass Coordinators and co-founder of PALS (Professional Alliance of Life Services), shares how the sudden loss of her husband forced her to navigate the complex world of estate planning, paperwork, and system failures—alone, with a baby on her hip. Visit buriedinwork.com for the FULL…
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From Caregiver to Care Partner: Rethinking Dementia Support with Teepa Snow
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44:14What if supporting someone with dementia wasn’t about fixing, but connecting? Caring for someone with dementia can feel overwhelming, but it doesn’t have to mean losing connection or dignity. In this powerful episode, Teepa Snow shares how to shift from “caregiving” to “care partnering” and reveals practical, relationship-based strategies for navig…
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Episode 30: Sara Ecklein - legacy, intentionality, preparation
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1:15:57Welcome to Episode 30 of The Lilly List Podcast! We're honored to feature Sara Ecklein, a professional fiduciary, entrepreneur, and host of the Legacy of Love podcast. Sara joins us for a deeply personal conversation, sharing how her childhood experiences shaped her path to helping others navigate the complexities of life and death planning. From g…
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Gail Rubin, The Doyenne of Death, on Why Planning Your Funeral Is a Gift to Your Family
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20:08In this episode of The Buried in Work Podcast, host Adam Zuckerman speaks with Gail Rubin, widely known as The Doyenne of Death, about the power and peace of mind that comes from funeral planning, estate preparation, and end-of-life conversations. Gail, author of A Good Goodbye and founder of the Before I Die Festival, shares how humor, storytellin…
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Caring for Aging Parents: How to Avoid Burnout and Make Confident Long-Term Care Decisions
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35:54Are you making long-term care decisions under pressure without a plan? As aging parents need more support, many families are left scrambling to make critical decisions without a clear plan. In this episode, Amy Friesen of Tea & Toast shares expert strategies to navigate retirement living, long-term care, and in-home support, while protecting your p…
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Amy Shaw: How to Help Someone Die With Dignity and Prepare Your Family for What’s Ahead
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41:42What if you had just one year left with the person you love most—would you know how to say goodbye? Amy Shaw shares the story of her husband’s terminal brain cancer diagnosis and how it transformed her from a mother of 10 into a full-time caregiver. With grace and honesty, Amy opens up about what it truly means to walk someone through the end of li…
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Plan for Aging Before Crisis Hits—So You Can Protect Independence, Avoid Family Conflict, and Preserve Your Legacy
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46:54Most families don’t plan for aging until it’s too late. Don’t be one of them. Too often, decisions about aging and long-term care are made in moments of stress. In this episode, Laura Lynn Morrissey shares how proactive life care planning can help you or your loved ones age on your own terms, avoid family conflict, and protect your financial legacy…
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Episode 29: Mary Coyne Wessling - outspoken, empathy, advocacy
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47:22Welcome to episode 29 of the lilylist podcast! Today, we're joined by the insightful and dynamic Mary Wessling. In this engaging conversation, Mary takes us on a journey through her life, from her upbringing in a large Irish Catholic family in Cleveland to her impactful work in journalism and social advocacy. Get ready to hear about her early exper…
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Lynn Hall on DC Unclaimed Property: Transforming Asset Recovery and Building Trust
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26:55In this episode of Buried in Work, Lynn Hall, Manager of the Unclaimed Property Unit for the District of Columbia, shares her 36+ years of expertise in asset recovery and fraud prevention. You’ll learn how unclaimed property is tracked, how DC’s proactive outreach programs are helping citizens reclaim their money faster, and the surprising items fo…
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What Most People Get Wrong About Estate Planning—and How Education Can Protect Your Legacy
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41:41What good is an estate plan if it doesn’t actually work when it’s needed? Many people assume their estate planning is “done” once documents are signed, but that’s where the real work begins. In this episode, attorney Jen Gumbel breaks down why education is the missing link in most estate plans and how understanding your own documents can be the dif…
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She Was Fine… Until She Wasn’t: The Hidden Cost of Aging Without a Plan with Corinne Auman
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25:50What does it really mean to age well — especially when you’re doing it alone? You think there's still time—until there isn't. Dr. Corinne Auman, gerontologist, developmental psychologist, and founder of Choice Care Navigators, shares the emotional and financial chaos that unfolds when families don’t plan for aging. She’s also the author of Keenager…
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The Power of Enough: How Healing Scarcity Redefines Wealth and Transforms Your Legacy
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43:30What if true wealth had nothing to do with your bank account? Many of us chase financial success hoping it will bring fulfillment—only to find ourselves stuck in patterns of scarcity or disconnection. In this episode, financial advisor Elizabeth Husserl invites us to redefine wealth itself, exploring how to cultivate abundance in every area of life…
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