The Sad Song Queens podcast brings together two award-winning Music Supervisors, Lindsay Wolfington and Laura Webb, as they sit down with the artists and songwriters behind some of the most evocative and emotional songs. Drawing on years of experience curating the perfect soundtracks for film and television, Lindsay and Laura explore the stories, experiences, and emotions that shape these deeply moving songs.
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Rock 'N' Roll Rabbit Hole, with hosts Butch Bays and Kevin Gibson, does deep dives into classic songs, one-hit wonders, forgotten tunes -- pretty much any song or single might get into our cross-hairs. Have a suggestion? Hit us up.
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This week, the Queens dive deep with Jack Kenworthy, aka Colouring, about his track “Coda." Jack shares the personal journey behind the song, reflecting on loss and resilience. In this conversation, they delve into Jack's creative process, the impact of family and friendship, and how music serves as a medium for expressing life's most profound mome…
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Dance sensation kenzie joins the Queens this week to talk about her song "Anatomy", which is a heartfelt ballad about her relationship with her dad. In this episode, she talks about growing up in the public eye, gaining confidence as a songwriter, and her relationship with her sister. Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! …
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Matt Berninger of The National "About Today"
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58:13Calling all the Sad Dads - in this heartfelt episode of Sad Song Queens, Lindsay and Laura sit down with Matt Berninger, the lead vocalist of The National, to discuss their poignant track "About Today”. Matt shares insights into the songwriting process, the universal themes of connection and distance that resonate through music, and the list of sad…
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This week, the Queens sit down with Rosi Golan to chat about her song “Right Now”. About a year ago, Rosi lost her husband to cancer. She posted a reel to her Instagram showing her and her husband hugging a vase that would preserve the memory of their love into art. Her video was beautiful and inspired many, and led Rosi to the decision to release …
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In this episode, the Sad Song Queens sit down with the talented Bartees Strange to explore the emotional depths of his song "Baltimore." We delve into the themes of identity, belonging, and the haunting stories that shaped his latest album, "Horror." Tune in for an intimate conversation about music, life, and the power of storytelling. Check out ou…
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Join hosts Laura Webb and Lindsay Wolfington on the Sad Song Queens podcast as they dive deep into the emotional resonance of Keane's iconic track, "Somewhere Only We Know." In this episode, they sit down with band members Tim Rice-Oxley and Tom Chaplin to discuss the song's creation, its impact, and the band's journey over the years. Check out our…
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REPLAY: Bear's Den "Above the Clouds of Pompeii"
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1:08:55In this replay episode, the Queens and Davie discuss the emotional depth of his song 'Above the Clouds of Pompeii', exploring themes of loss, family dynamics, and the impact of mental health on creativity. They reflect on the significance of live performances, the collaboration with Dermot Kennedy, and the power of music to connect people through s…
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REPLAY: SYML "Where's My Love (Alt Version)"
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53:31We're back with another replay! In this episode, SYML discusses his song “Where’s My Love” with the Sad Song Queens. In this conversation, they talk about the inspiration behind SYML’s music, the process of creating music as a solo artist, the impact of sad songs, and the personal experiences that influence his songwriting. Check out our friends at…
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ICYMI - Replaying our very first interview with the lovely Ashe! With a new release on the horizon from her new band with Finneas, The Favors, it’s a great time to reflect on Ashe’s solo work thus far. In this conversation, Ashe tells the Sad Song Queens about the creation and meaning behind her song "Moral of the Story." They discuss how the song …
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Join Lindsay and Laura (and producer Emily!) as they reflect on Season 1 of the Sad Song Queens podcast. Then, they open it up to questions received from listeners and friends. Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! Texas Together: with Hondo Ordinary Texans with Extrodinary Stories Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support…
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This episode is a switch-up! Today, SYML returns to the podcast to ask the Queens his questions about their jobs as music supervisors. In his episode discussing “Where’s My Love”, he said he had his own list of questions for them, so they are happy to welcome him back! Laura and Lindsay touch on how they get jobs, denial of uses, and happy moments …
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Per Gessle of Roxette "It Must Have Been Love"
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55:42In this week’s conversation, Per Gessle of Roxette discusses the creative process behind iconic songs like 'It Must Have Been Love' and 'The Look', and the unexpected journey of their music from Sweden to global fame, particularly through its association with the film 'Pretty Woman'. He shares insights into his songwriting process, the evolution of…
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This week, the Queens sit down with Abraham Alexander to discuss his song “Xavier”, which is about the tragic passing of his brother. He also talks about his Greek and Nigerian roots, his first Oscar nomination, and his musical relationship with Leon Bridges. Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! Texas Together: with Hondo…
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FINNEAS sits down with Lindsay and Laura to chat about his song “Same Old Story.” He shares his admiration for music supervisors, tips for young music producers, and how live shows informed his latest album. Plus, we discuss collaborating with sister, Billie Eilish, and get a breakdown of his contributions to Ashe’s “Moral of the Story.” Check out …
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Moby "When It's Cold I'd Like To Die"
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1:04:32Today, the legend that is Moby joins the Queens for a conversation about the song “When It’s Cold I’d Like To Die” by Moby and Mimi Goese, which was featured on The Sopranos and Stranger Things. They chat about how he got started in the New York dance scene, getting signed, and his love of sync placements. Check out our friends at The Songwriting S…
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In honor of World Maternal Mental Health Day, the Queens chat about the song “Girls” with the always inspiring songwriter and artist, Rachel Platten. Platten, who became widely known with her hit song “Fight Song”, talks about songwriting, motherhood, and her mental health struggles postpartum. Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los…
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The Queens sit down with Joy Oladokun about her heartbreaking song “Charleston,” from her debut album Carry. They discuss Joy’s perspective growing up in the church, her experience being signed to a major label, and making a difference with music. Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! Texas Together: with Hondo Ordinary Te…
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In today’s episode, we chat with our friend Anna of the North about her song “Lovers,” which we placed in the 2018 film To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before, where it resonated with fans worldwide after playing in a pivotal hot tub scene. The song is having a moment again, so we knew it was time to reconnect with Anna to discuss. We chat about how the…
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Novo Amor joins us to chat about his song “Anchor”. He shares insights into the emotional depth of his songs, how he began his music career, and what it was like to land this song in a pharmaceutical commercial. He is a big advocate of taking care of the environment and finding ways to create art and tour sustainably. Check out our friends at The S…
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Jeremy Lister and the Queens go deep as they talk about Jeremy’s song “The Bed You Made”. They chat about his a cappella days on The Sing Off, touring with Post Malone, and his hot sauce brand Blister Sauce. Use the code SADSONGQUEENS for 15% off any order! Jeremy also shares stories about his journey with alcohol use and now, sobriety. If you or a…
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In this week’s episode, the Queens chat with Ben Bridwell of Band of Horses about the legendary song “The Funeral”. They discuss how sync music changed his life, his four daughters, and his friendship with Sam from Iron & Wine. Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! Texas Together: with Hondo Ordinary Texans with Extrodinar…
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Join the Queens as they sit down with Susie Suh to chat about her song "Feather in the Wind" and debate about different interpretations of if it is really a sad song. They also chat about the power of sound baths, One Tree Hills, and pros and cons of being an independent artist. Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! Texas …
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William Fitzsimmons "I Don't Feel It Anymore (Song of the Sparrow)"
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1:00:23William and the Queens discusses the universal appeal of sad songs, sharing personal anecdotes and insights into the emotional connections people have with music. He reflects on the meaning behind his own songs, particularly how they relate to his experiences with love and relationships. They discuss how life events, including family dynamics and p…
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In this episode, we chat with our friend Morgan Harper-Jones, discussing her song “Main Character”. She reflects on the deep emotional connections and regrets that inspired it, sharing her experiences of loneliness, self-doubt, and the creative process that led to the song's creation, emphasizing the importance of emotional honesty in art. We also …
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In today's episode, we interview another sad song aficionado - Luke Sital-Singh! We chat about his Sad Song Supper Club and the meaning behind his grief-filled song "Killing Me". Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! Texas Together: with Hondo Ordinary Texans with Extrodinary Stories Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Suppo…
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The Queens sat down with the legendary Patrick Watson about his song “To Build A Home” he did with the Cinematic Orchestra. He reflects on the healing power of music, quantum mechanics, and gives us a master class on classical music. Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! Texas Together: with Hondo Ordinary Texans with Extr…
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Join the Queens as they sit down for a conversation with Lykke Li about her song "Happy Hurts". They also chat about what it means to be a mother, pyschics, and what makes a sad song sad. Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! Texas Together: with Hondo Ordinary Texans with Extrodinary Stories Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spot…
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Star-crossed lovers or star-crossed podcast hosts? As a special treat for Valentine’s Day, we sit down with LUXXURY and Diallo (of the One Song podcast) to discuss our favorite sad songs and favorite sad love songs! Grab those tissues - cause one (or all) of us might need a good cry! Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles Ch…
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The Weepies' Steve Tannen "World Spins Madly On"
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57:22In this episode of the Sad Song Queens podcast, hosts Lindsay and Laura welcome Steve Tannen from The Weepies. They discuss the origins of the band name, the emotional impact of their song 'World Spins Madly On', and the songwriting process. Steve and the queens get philosophical about what defines a sad song, exploring tone, lyrics, and performanc…
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Sit down with the Queens in this episode while they chat about how they got into music supervision - and what THEIR favorite sad songs are! Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles! Texas Together: with Hondo Ordinary Texans with Extrodinary Stories Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the show To help support these artis…
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Bear's Den "Above The Clouds of Pompeii"
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1:08:55In this conversation, the queens and Andrew Davie of Bear's Den discuss the emotional depth of their song 'Above the Clouds of Pompeii', exploring themes of loss, family dynamics, and the impact of mental health on creativity. They reflect on the significance of live performances, the band's collaboration with Dermot Kennedy, and the power of music…
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Thank you for listening to The Sad Song Queens Podcast - because you always need a good cry! In this episode, SYML discusses his song “Where’s My Love” with the Sad Song Queens. In this conversation, they talk about the inspiration behind SYML’s music, the process of creating music as a solo artist, the impact of sad songs, and the personal experie…
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Thank you for listening to The Sad Song Queens Podcast - because you always need a good cry! In this conversation, Ashe tells the Sad Song Queens about the creation and meaning behind her song "Moral of the Story." They discuss how the song was placed in the film "To All the Boys: P.S. I Still Love You,” and the impact the film’s use had on Ashe’s …
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The Sad Song Queens podcast brings together two award-winning Music Supervisors, Lindsay Wolfington and Laura Webb, as they sit down with the artists and songwriters behind some of the most evocative and emotional songs. Drawing on years of experience curating the perfect soundtracks for film and television, Lindsay and Laura explore the stories, e…
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’Stairway to Heaven’: Do the Lyrics to the Led Zeppelin Classic Really Mean Anything?
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50:48In this final episode of Season 2, Butch and Kevin dig into the song that is considered by many the greatest rock song ever recorded. What we specifically take a look at are the almost dream-like lyrics and whether or not they are filled with important symbolism or just words Robert Plant created to fit the music. The beer of the week was supposed …
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’American Idiot’: Green Day’s Protest Hit That Almost Never Was
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37:19On this episode, the penultimate episode of Season 2, Butch and Kevin take on Green Day's protest hit, "American Idiot." It was a Top 10 hit in many countries, such as the U.K., Canada, Australia, Scotland and New Zealand, although -- despite its general popularity in the U.S. -- it only reached 61 on the Billboard Hot 100. Front man Billie Joe Arm…
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’We’re Not Gonna Take It’: Twisted Sister’s Evergreen Anthem
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36:59Nearly 40 years ago, a rock anthem hit the airwaves -- and perhaps most importantly, MTV -- in the form of Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It." The campy, fun video and the singalong chants made it an instant hit. Kevin and Butch go down the Rock 'n' Roll Rabbit Hole on this timeless classic that remains evergreen after all this time. A few …
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’Down Under’: Men at Work’s Quirky Australian Hit with a Sad Ending
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33:00In 1982, Men at Work came from nowhere -- OK, actually from Australia -- to take the world by storm with their hits "Who Can it be Now?" and "Down Under," the latter of which is the story of a man's travels and the odd characters he meets along the way. Butch and Kevin dig into the song, its meaning, and some of the cultural revelations contained w…
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’God Save the Queen’: Were Johnny Rotten and the Sex Pistols Just Joking Around?
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39:42Season 2 of Rock 'n' Roll Rabbit Hole marches on with a dive into "God Save the Queen," the seminal punk rock classic by the Sex Pistols that whipped much of jolly old England into a frenzy in 1977. Butch and Kevin talk about a lot of different perspectives on the song and how it was received, in both positive ways and negative. A few show points: …
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’Wagon Wheel’: Bob Dylan Meets Old Crow Medicine Show at the Song We Love to Hate
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37:35That's right, we did it. The unrelenting "Wagon Wheel" gets the deep dive in this episode, as Butch and Kevin grit their teeth and trudge forward. This tune, which is played now by pretty much every cover band in the galaxy, started with a Bob Dylan demo. It was then completed by Ketch Secor of Old Crow Medicine Show. And then Darius Rucker, Hootie…
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’The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald’: Gordon Lightfoot and the Ultimate Story Song
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42:11On this episode, Kevin and Butch take a deep dive into "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald," a classic true story song by the great Gordon Lightfoot about the freighter that sank into Lake Superior in 1975, taking all 29 crew members down with her. A few notes: Beer of the Week is, of course, Edmund Fitzgerald Porter by Great Lakes Brewing Co. What…
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’Money For Nothing’: Dire Straits’ Misunderstood MTV Classic
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41:28Hey, we're back! Sorry for the long hiatus, but we had a big show with the band and had to get a new drummer ready. It didn't help that Kevin messed up his back and was laid up for a bit. But Kevin and Butch return for another episode, this time focusing on "Money For Nothing," the memorable Dire Straits hit that ended up being a bit misunderstood …
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’Jack and Diane’: From Johnny Cougar to John Mellencamp in One Stroke
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46:45In this episode, Kevin and Butch tackle the Americana classic "Jack and Diane" by John Cougar, aka, John Cougar Mellencamp, aka John Mellencamp. We talk about how the original lyric was interestingly different, how the song was built in studio -- it almost didn't make the cut -- and perhaps most importantly, what it meant for John Mellencamp's care…
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’That Thing You Do!’: The Wonders, Tom Hanks and the Greatest ’Fake’ Song Ever
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48:10The Tom Hanks-written and -directed "That Thing You Do!" was the surprise, feel-good hit movie of 1996, and the film's theme song of the same name not only was nominated for multiple awards, it also hit #41 on the Billboard charts. Credited to fictional band The Wonders, the song was actually written by Fountains of Wayne's Adam Schlesinger and sun…
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’Come On Eileen’ by Dexys Midnight Runners: Greatest One-Hit Wonder Ever?
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40:39Too-rye-ay, we're back again with Episode 2 of Season 2 of Rock 'n' Roll Rabbit Hole. In this episode, Butch and Kevin dig into a 1980s classic, "Come on Eileen" by Dexys Midnight Runners. We discuss the song's meaning, the band's background and the impact it made when it shot up the charts in 1982-83. Among the points covered: Beer of the Week: Fa…
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Queen’s ’We Will Rock You’ and ’We Are the Champions’: Forever Connected
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39:45And we're back for Season 2! To kick things off, we're tackling a two-fer, the double A-side single from the amazing Queen, "We Will Rock You/We Are the Champions." We talk about the songs' historic status as a double-single, why they are so frequently played back-to-back, their statuses as sports anthems and what inspired the tunes for songwriters…
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‘Smells Like Teen Spirit‘: How Nirvana‘s Unlikely Hit Changed Everything
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41:29On this, the final Season 1 episode, Butch and Kevin dig into "Smells Like Teen Spirit," Nirvana's seminal grunge anthem from 1991. This is the song that often gets credit for squashing hair metal once and for all, but the Rock 'n' Roll Rabbit Hole hosts take a deeper dive into the cultural shift it brought about, including comparing it with anothe…
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‘Stacy‘s Mom‘: Lost Interview With Fountains of Wayne Frontman Chris Collingwood
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40:16Fountains of Wayne had its lone Top 40 hit in 2003 with "Stacy's Mom," which is often remembered for the video starring actress Rachel Hunter. In this episode, Kevin digs out an interview he did with Chris Collingwood, the band's frontman, in 2003, just two weeks after the single was released. Most of the interview was never published, so Kevin and…
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‘Hotel California‘: Do You Hate the Eagles or Love the Eagles?
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39:51It's a tale as old as ... well the 1970s, when the Eagles were flying high (pun intended) on hits like "Take it Easy" and "Peaceful Easy Feeling." Then came "Hotel California," the dark, sprawling tune with the ominous, two-minute instrumental outro. It was and continues to be one of the most notable songs in rock 'n' roll. But over the years, a co…
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‘Don‘t Stop Believin‘‘: Journey‘s Universal Hit That Won‘t Quit
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37:19Just what the heck is it that makes "Don't Stop Believin'" by Journey so popular, and for so long? Is it Steve Perry's pleading vocal? The big chorus that takes forever to get to? The relatable lyric? Heck, the song has been around since 1981, topped out at No. 9 on the charts, yet it's still regularly getting placement in modern pop culture, not t…
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