Best Rob Swanson Podcasts (2025)

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EP 35: How Should New Investors Educate Themselves on Real Estate - Rob Swanson 53:05

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In this episode of The Real Wealth Formula, Brad Hovis sits down again with Rob Swanson to tackle a big question: How should new investors educate themselves on real estate? Rob shares how he taught his own kids the basics, the difference between buying property and buying a true deal, and why the most successful students always start with a clear …

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EP 36: How to Avoid Wire Fraud 26:30

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Wire fraud is one of the biggest threats facing real estate investors today. In this episode, Brad Hovis shares real stories of wire fraud attempts, including the time $180,000 almost disappeared. You’ll learn the simple but critical steps you must take to protect your money when sending and receiving wires. If you are investing in real estate, thi…

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EP 34: Is Airbnb a Good Investment? 26:10

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Is Airbnb a smart investment or a risky move? In this episode, Brad Hovis shares his real-life experience owning hotels and Airbnbs to break down the pros and cons of short-term rentals. He explains how oversaturation, local regulations, competition, and hidden costs can make or break your returns. If you’ve ever thought about jumping into the Airb…

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EP 33: How 1031 Exchange Helps Investors Avoid Income Tax - Drew McCabe 1:14:25

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Discover the truth about the 1031 exchange. This episode tackles a common misconception: that it helps you avoid income tax. Brad Hovis and Drew McCabe explain the difference between capital gains tax and income tax. Learn the six essential rules for a successful exchange. Find out why this real estate strategy is a powerful tool for building wealt…

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The Power of Friendship: Sharing the Journey of Leadership with Keith Daniel & Steve Swayne 32:03

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Rob and David engage in a meaningful conversation with two special guests, Dr. Keith Daniel and Steve Swain. Dr. Keith Daniel, co-founder of Resilient Ventures, and Steve Swain, Director of St. Francis Springs Prayer Center, share personal stories and insights into their leadership journeys, emphasizing the necessity for intentionality, proximity, …

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EP 32: How I Bought a Hotel Without Any Money 53:14

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Discover how to buy a hotel with no money down. Brad Hovis shares the incredible story of his Hotel Frisco deal, where he turned a creative finance strategy into over $2 million in profit. He reveals the exact steps he took, from leveraging creative finance to overcoming unexpected challenges. This episode offers a candid, detailed look at a high-s…

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Daniel 1:1-22 (Rob Freire) Undefiled 33:41

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UndefiledBy Rob Freire

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EP 31: How to Calculate ROI 32:51

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In this episode of the Real Wealth Formula, you’ll learn how to calculate ROI the right way. The discussion covers why ROI is often misunderstood, the difference between cap rate and cash-on-cash return, and why risk matters when comparing deals. You’ll also discover how to maximize ROI using leverage, human resources, and sweat equity. If you want…

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EP30: How To Find Discount Off-Market Real Estate Deals - Rob Swanson 1:26:28

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Are you a high earner still living paycheck to paycheck? This episode of The Real Wealth Formula is for you. Host Brad Hovis sits down with real estate expert Rob Swanson to talk about how to find and acquire off-market real estate deals. They discuss going beyond the traditional on-market approach and how to locate motivated sellers directly. Disc…

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EP 29: Should You Just Do Deals or Do Business 29:01

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In this episode of The Real Wealth Formula, Brad Hovis breaks down the difference between simply doing real estate deals and building a real estate business. He shares why active real estate investing, when treated as a business, can create more consistent income, bigger paydays, and long-term scalability. Brad explains the four essential aspects o…

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EP28: How Does the BRRRR Method Work? - Brian McClain 1:04:31

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This episode breaks down the BRRRR method for real estate investing. The acronym stands for Buy, Renovate, Rent, Refinance, and Repeat. Hosts Brad Hovis and Brian McClain explain how this strategy allows investors to build a portfolio with little or no personal capital. They share a personal story about their first successful deal, a long-term rent…

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EP 27: How Do You Handle Late Rent Payments? 40:19

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Late rent payments can hurt your cash flow and create unnecessary stress. In this episode, Brad breaks down practical strategies to manage them effectively. He explains why setting expectations from day one is critical, how to communicate with tenants about overdue payments, and when to offer flexible arrangements without putting yourself at risk. …

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Hebrews 10:19-25 (Chae An) Encouragement 42:09

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EncouragementBy Chae An

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EP 26: How Much Money Do You Need to Get Started in Real Estate Investing? 30:16

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Many believe you need huge amounts of cash to start real estate investing. The truth is different. In this episode, Brad Hovis shares practical strategies that require little to no money, including wholesale deals, lease options, subject-to financing, private funding, partnerships, and the BRRRR method. You will learn why education is your most val…

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EP25: How Can a Beginner Get Started in Real Estate Investing? - Kal Murib 51:56

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If you are flipping houses, timing matters. In this episode, we talk about how market seasons can make or break your profit. Learn why selling in the right months can increase your returns and how to plan your projects to match buyer demand. Key Takeaways Market timing affects property sales prices. Homes often sell for higher prices in spring and …

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EP24: Is Now a Good Time to Invest in Real Estate? 18:17

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Podcast In this episode of the Real Wealth Formula Podcast, we dive into the question: Is now a good time to invest in real estate? The short answer is yes, it always is. Whether you're considering long-term buy-and-hold strategies or short-term flips, understanding market dynamics is key. We discuss strategies that work in today’s market and how y…

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EP23: What Local Markets Work for Real Estate Investing? - John Webb 30:08

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In this episode of Real Wealth Formula, Brad Hovis and guest John Webb dive into the question: What local markets work for real estate investing? They break down how to evaluate markets using price-to-rent ratios, distressed inventory, and neighborhood quality. From success stories in Memphis and St. Louis to wild experiences in challenging neighbo…

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From Player, to Coach, to GM - The CEO Journey with Tim Spence 44:52

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David and Rob discuss leadership, faith, and culture with Tim Spence, CEO of BSA LifeStructures. Tim shares his leadership journey, the importance of being faithful in small things, and how to foster a culture that prioritizes people and purpose. He recounts his transition into the CEO role, emphasizing trust, empowerment, and development. Tim also…

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EP22: Should You Self-Manage or Hire a Property Management Company? 23:04

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In this episode, we break down the decision-making process for real estate investors on whether to self-manage their properties or hire a property management company. We cover key factors like personality, finances, and the legal side of property management. Key Takeaways: Personality: Can you handle tough decisions like evictions? Financials: Cons…

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Acts 8:1b-8 (Mark Swanson) Two Kinds of Belief 38:10

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Two Kinds of BeliefBy Mark Swanson

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EP21: How to Find Reliable Contractors 13:42

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Finding reliable contractors is crucial for real estate success. In this episode of Real Wealth Formula, Brad Hovis explains how to build a strong contractor team without overpaying or burning bridges. Learn how to recruit trustworthy trades, pay them fast, and create lasting relationships that keep your projects on track. Key Takeaways: Referrals …

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EP20: How Do You Buy Real Estate at the Foreclosure Auctions? - Matt Sanchez 52:53

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In this episode of the Real Wealth Formula Podcast, Brad Hovis sits down with seasoned investor Matt Sanchez to dive deep into how to buy real estate at foreclosure auctions, evaluate deals, and create long-term wealth through cash flow strategies. Matt shares his 40+ years of experience, including tips on bidding tactics, analyzing liens, and avoi…

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Acts 6:8-7:1, 7:51-8:1a (Mark Swanson) The Way of the Dragon and theWay of the Lamb 46:35

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The Way of the Dragon and the Way of the LambBy Mark Swanson

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Leading at the Intersection of Purpose, Joy & Justice with Ryan O'Donnell 37:48

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Rob and David are joined by Ryan O'Donnell, co-founder and CEO of Sunlight, a tech startup focused on improving the foster care system. Ryan shares his journey from launching tech startups to using technology for social good, driven by his personal experience as a foster parent. The discussion dives into the complexities of the foster care system, …

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Acts 4:32-5:11 (Jason Gaboury) Is God Mean? 29:46

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Is God Mean?By Jason Gaboury

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EP19: Should You Create an LLC for Real Estate Investing? 18:06

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One wrong move with your LLC could cost you everything. Brad Hovis exposes the biggest mistake new investors make with LLCs and how to avoid it. Learn when you actually need one, and how to set it up without getting ripped off. This episode will change how you structure your deals from day one. KEY TAKEAWAYS The difference between LLCs taxed as S C…

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EP18: Should a Real Estate Investor Get Their Real Estate License? - Brian McClain 53:24

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Brad Hovis and Brian McClain reveal what most people won’t tell you about being a licensed investor. From hidden liabilities to powerful deal advantages, they expose the real pros and cons of crossing into the agent world. Watch this episode and learn what it takes to play both sides without getting burned. KEY TAKEAWAYS The surprising reason you d…

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EP17: How to Analyze a Rental Property 23:00

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Brad Hovis strips rental property analysis down to what matters: real cash, real numbers, and real-world thinking. Discover how most investors blow it on vacancy and maintenance. This episode helps you break through the noise and buy with confidence. KEY TAKEAWAYS A harsh truth about Section 8 rentals most investors don't consider Real cost of vaca…

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Acts 4:22-31 (Mark Swanson) Courage and the Power of Prayer 27:32

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Courage and the Power of PrayerBy Mark Swanson

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EP16: Should You Buy Single-Family or Multi-Family? 23:25

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Think multifamily is the fast track to wealth? Think again. Brad Hovis reveals why single-family homes often outperform, with fewer headaches, lower vacancy risk, and more exit options. If you're just starting out, this episode gives you the clearest path forward. KEY TAKEAWAYS Why single-family tenants stay longer and why that’s a hidden superpowe…

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EP15: How to Become a Passive Real Estate Investor - David Bote 1:25:28

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From walk-off grand slams to walk-in rentals. David Bote reveals how he turned MLB paychecks into lasting wealth. He shares the behind-the-scenes playbook, including hoarder house flips, debt-free investing, and helping renters become homeowners. Tune in now to learn how he built real cash flow after baseball, and how you can too. KEY TAKEAWAYS How…

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EP14: How to Find a Good Real Estate Market 25:09

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In this episode, Brad reveals how to choose the right market based on your strengths, strategy, and buy box, not hype. From rent ratios to investor activity, this episode shows you how to find real deals, not just properties. This episode gives you the framework to choose wisely, so don't miss out. KEY TAKEAWAYS The quiet power of lease-to-own vs. …

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EP13: How to Acquire Commercial Real Estate at a Discount - Kal Murib 46:44

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Still waiting for the "perfect" deal? You're already losing. Kal Murib reveals how he built a 16-property portfolio without chasing discounts, just relationships, timing, and guts. From creative financing to tenants who stay for decades, this episode is a masterclass in playing the long game in commercial real estate. So, don't miss out! KEY TAKEAW…

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Thriving in Venture Capital: Jesse Marble’s People-First Approach to Investing 44:35

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Rob and David engage with Jesse Marble, entrepreneur and General Partner at Wildwood Ventures. Jesse shares his thoughts on the nature of challenges, stating that hard tasks don't necessarily indicate you're in the wrong situation. The team discusses the intersection of leadership, faith, and culture. Jesse details his unique approach to venture ca…

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EP12: How to Finance Your First Property 34:47

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Thinking about buying your first investment property? This episode covers the smartest financing strategies, from traditional loans to creative plays like Subject-To, Lease Options, and BRRRR. Discover the pros, cons, and real-world examples to invest with confidence when you listen until the end of this episode! KEY TAKEAWAYS When to consider Fann…

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Acts 4:1-22 (Mark Swanson) The Name of Jesus 33:30

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The Name of JesusBy Mark Swanson

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EP11: Do You Need a Real Estate License? 23:10

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Are you curious about how skipping the license can help you avoid lawsuits, red tape, and costly mistakes while still providing access to deals, property tours, and portfolio growth? This episode is for you if you’re considering flipping, wholesaling, or acquiring distressed properties. So tune in! KEY TAKEAWAYS Why getting licensed could hurt your…

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EP10: When is it Responsible to Bet on Sports? - Garrett Gibson 46:35

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Is your sports betting just for fun, or could it actually be an investment? Garrett Gibson reveals how to turn promos, price gaps, and bankroll discipline into real profits. Learn the secrets pros use and how to bet without going broke by tuning in! KEY TAKEAWAYS A proven tactic to consistently beat the closing line Why meticulous wager tracking is…

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EP09: How to Fire Contractors 24:24

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Contractor headaches cost time and money, so today, we'll show you how to fire underperformers fast. Join us as we cover key red flags and why character beats craft. Plus, learn airtight clauses and how to build your "starting five" crew for repeatable passive-income deals. KEY TAKEAWAYS When and how to pull the trigger on a bad contractor Why char…

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EP08: How to Acquire Real Estate at a Discount - John Webb 28:05

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Buying real estate below market value isn’t a myth, it’s a method. In this episode, Brad Hovis sits down with John Webb to break down exactly how he acquires single-family homes at steep discounts. From working with wholesalers and distressed sellers to running the numbers with precision, this conversation is packed with insider strategies and hard…

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EP07: How to Hire Contractors 25:00

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Hiring contractors can make or break your rehab projects and your wallet. Today, we flip the script on “industry norms” and reveal the no-BS playbook that keeps your cash safe and your timeline intact. Dial in to uncover the critical payment hacks, must-ask dates, and contract secrets every savvy investor needs. KEY TAKEAWAYS Why deposits equal dis…

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Acts 3:1-10 (Mark Swanson) The Healing King 33:17

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The Healing KingBy Mark Swanson

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EP06: How to Leave a Legacy 24:55

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Seize the final “L” (Legacy) in your wealth journey. Brad Hovis reveals how to turn your toughest struggles into a Big Hairy Audacious Goal, break it into daily wins, and deploy passive income to causes you’re passionate about. Find out the blueprint for “infinite good” and make your impact truly unstoppable! KEY TAKEAWAYS The innate drive to leave…

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EP05: How to Live on Passive Income 16:48

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Brad Hovis retired at 31, not because he struck it rich overnight, but because he followed a simple formula: build passive income that exceeds your monthly expenses. In this episode, Brad breaks down the Real Wealth Formula and explains how to stop trading time for money. If you're stuck in a job you don’t love, this is the blueprint to start movin…

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EP04: How to Acquire Passive Income 35:27

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Start earning while you’re off the clock as we hit dividend stocks, mineral royalties, business distributions, and private loans, then share four real estate hacks. Put your dollars to work so rent checks outpace your bills. Subscribe now to kick off your passive income journey! KEY TAKEAWAYS The difference between true passive income and mere spec…

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EP03: How to Enlarge Your Active Income 30:46

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What if one raise could rewrite your entire wealth story? In this episode, Brad Hovis shares a focused playbook for turning extra active income into assets that pay you back while you sleep. Press play and pass it on to someone who refuses to stay stuck at the same paycheck. KEY TAKEAWAYS How doing the bare minimum turns you from an asset into a li…

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The Business of Belonging: Leading Justly In the Places We're Planted with David Swanson (February 2025) 50:59

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David and Rob engage in a profound conversation with David Swanson, an author and pastor with a deep commitment to justice and reconciliation. They explore the themes of Swanson's book, Rediscipling the White Church, and its impact over the past five years. The discussion delves into the current cultural backlash against diversity, equity, and incl…

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EP02: How to Reduce Your Monthly Expenses 29:17

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Ready to take control of your monthly bills? We’ll show you how to track every expense, set up a no-nonsense 10-category spending plan, and smash your debt for good. Ditch the dreaded “budget,” master Google Sheets, and pick up life hacks to keep more cash in your pocket. Hit play now and start saving! KEY TAKEAWAYS How to export and consolidate al…

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Acts 2:42-47 (Mark Swanson) The Life of the Church 41:49

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The Life of the ChurchBy Mark Swanson

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EP01: What is The Real Wealth Formula? 24:49

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Brad Hovis went from broke hotel manager to retired real estate mogul by following a simple but powerful framework—the Real Wealth Formula. In this kickoff episode, he unpacks each step of the R.E.A.L. system and shares the emotional turning point that led him to take control of his family’s financial future. This is more than budgeting tips or rea…