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Hosted by CNN's Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, State of the Union features interviews with top newsmakers on politics and policy—covering Washington, the country, and the world.
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Another World is still Possible. The old system was never fit for purpose and now it has gone - it is never coming back. We have the power of gods to destroy our home. But we also have the chance to become something we cannot yet imagine, and by doing so, create a future we would be proud to leave to the generations yet unborn. What happens if we commit to a world based on the values we care about: compassion, courage, integrity? What happens if we let go of the race for meaningless money an ...
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Join architect Evan Troxel as he explores important topics surrounding the co-evolution of technology and architecture. Guests from the architectural community and beyond join in long-form conversations about the influence digital transformation is having on the profession with long digressions on leadership, change management, knowledge transfer, where all this may lead to in the future of the building industry, and more.
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Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, Texas Congressman Joaquin Castro and Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear
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43:49On CNN’s State of the Union, Dana Bash speaks with Texas Rep. Joaquin Castro about the deadly floods ravaging his state. Then, Dana sits down with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to discuss President Trump’s sweeping domestic policy legislation. They also discuss what will happen when Trump’s 90-day pause on tariffs ends later this week. Next, Ken…
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Still In the Eye of the Storm: Finding Calm and Stable Roots with Dan McTiernan of Being EarthBound
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1:20:10As the only predictable thing is that things are impossible to predict now, how do we find a sense of grounded stability, a sense of safety, a sense of embodied connection to the Web of Life? This is the single most important thing we can be doing now, and this week's guest, Dan McTiernan, is one of those who is leading courses, trainings and embod…
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194: ‘CEO as Knowledge Architect’, with Ellen Bensky and Christopher Parsons
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1:23:13Ellen Bensky and Christopher Parsons join the podcast to talk about how Turner Fleischer built a digital twin of their practice. We get into what it means to intentionally work on the firm—not just in it—and how Turner Fleischer has operationalized innovation inside a service-based business. Ellen shares how the firm protects time for internal rese…
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Rep. Sen. Katie Britt and Dem. Sen. Mark Warner
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43:31On CNN's State of the Union, Jake Tapper speaks to Republican Senator Katie Britt about the President's domestic policy agenda as it nears its final vote in the Senate. Democratic Senator Mark Warner slams Republicans for supporting this bill while also what he knows about the state of Iran's nuclear program. Finally Republican Rep. Riley Moore, De…
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Sit with the River, Breathe Sacred Smoke, Love with the World: Building a Bioregional world with Joe Brewer
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1:21:01How can Bioregionalism supplant the nation state as the natural unit of civilisation? Joe Brewer is living, breathing and teaching the ways we can work together with each other and the natural flows of water and life. We know that the current paradigm is breaking apart in real time, but how do we become the light that shines through the cracks? How…
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193: ‘Making Ideas Impactful’, with Darren Brooker
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1:28:56Darren Brooker joins the podcast to talk about how storytelling and visual communication, when used together, can transform the way ideas are received and acted upon. We discuss how architectural concepts are often misunderstood not because they’re bad ideas, but because they’re not communicated in a way that sticks. Darren explains why the key to …
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Israeli President Isaac Herzog, Dem. Sen. Adam Schiff and Former Trump National Security Adviser John Bolton
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44:30On CNN's State of the Union, Kasie Hunt speaks to Israeli President Isaac Herzog about the aftermath of the U.S. strikes against Iranian nuclear sites. Democratic Senator Adam Schiff speaks about the congressional response to President Trump’s order to strike Iran arguing the action was "not constitutional." And Trump's former National Security Adv…
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Solstice Meditation 2025 - Sun Stands Still - by Manda Scott
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22:42Here is a meditation for the Solstice – the moment when the sun stands still. It is suitable for Summer and Winter solstice. You don't have to do this at the exact moment of stillness: it’s the connection that counts, the marking of the turning point from days lengthening to shortening (or vice versa if you’re in the southern hemisphere). This is a…
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Thoughts from the Solstice Edge: Turning the Page on a Dying System with Manda Scott
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27:00As we head into the solstice- that moment when the sun stands still—whether you're in the northern hemisphere where we have the longest day, or the southern, where it's the longest night—this solstice feels like a moment of transformation. The world is turning over, turning a page. The old system is visibly—palpably—breaking apart. A new system wil…
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Falling in Love with the Future - with author, musician, podcaster and futurenaut, Rob Hopkins
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1:18:42Our guest this week, Rob Hopkins, is a towering figure in the world of regenerative change. Co-founder of Transition Network and of Transition Town Totnes, he is host of the podcast 'From What if to What Next', stars in the groundbreaking French film 'Demain', speaks at TED Global and TEDx events and most recently, has created a collaborative music…
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192: ‘Building an AI-First Practice’, with Patrick Chopson and Eric Cesal
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1:26:14Patrick Chopson and Eric Cesal join the podcast to talk about what an architecture practice could look like if it were designed around AI from day one. We discuss the limits of traditional workflows, how education is falling behind the pace of innovation, and why small, agile teams may be better positioned to lead the industry forward. This convers…
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Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, Former Vice President Mike Pence, California Sen. Alex Padilla and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass
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47:57On CNN’s State of the Union, Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar joins Dana Bash to react to the shocking assassination of a Minnesota state legislator and her husband, as well as the manhunt for the suspect behind the attack. Then, former Vice President Mike Pence joins Dana to discuss the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran. Dana also presses…
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ReWilding our Water: From Rain to River to Sewer and back with Tim Smedley, author of The Last Drop
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1:34:05If you listen to this podcast for any length of time, you'll know that I believe the way forward is predicated on our finding shared values—I'd go for integrity, compassion, courage and generosity of spirit as the baselines—and then a suite of clear asks in the outer world and needs in the inner world. In logistical terms, at an absolute baseline, …
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Rep. Nanette Barragán, Sen. Bernie Sanders, Sen. Markwayne Mullin and Sen. Ron Johnson
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45:56On CNN’s State of Union, Democratic Rep. Nanette Barragán sits down with Dana Bash to react to President Trump’s stunning decision to deploy thousands of National Guard troops to quell immigration protests in her district and elsewhere in Los Angeles County. Then, Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders joins Dana to react to the breaking news and lay out …
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This is how we build the future: Teaching Regenerative Economics at all levels with Jennifer Brandsberg-Engelmann
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1:20:48How do we let go of the sense of scarcity, separation and powerlessness that defines the ways we live, care and do business together? How can we best equip our young people for the world that is coming - which is so, so different from the future we grew up believing was possible? This week's guest, Jennifer Brandsberg-Engelmann is an educator, rege…
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191: ‘The Bastardization of Marketing in AEC’, with Kyle Morck
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1:39:18Kyle Morck joins the podcast to talk about about the widespread misuse of marketing in the AEC industry. We unpack why firms rely on vanity metrics that don’t move the needle, how real marketing success comes from long-term relationship building, and why personal branding inside firms is just as critical as the firm’s brand itself. Whether you’re i…
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White House Budget Director Russ Vought, House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Sen. Chris Murphy
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47:03On CNN’s State of the Union, Dana Bash sits down for an exclusive interview with the man seen as the architect behind President Trump’s scorched-earth effort to upend the federal government, White House Budget Director Russ Vought. Then, House Democratic Leader Rep. Hakeem Jeffries joins Dana to detail his party’s plan to counter Trump’s agenda, as…
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Brilliant Minds: BONUS podcast with Kate Raworth, Indy Johar & James Lock at the Festival of Debate
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1:53:10We are honoured to bring to Accidental Gods, a recording of three of our generation's leading thinkers in conversation at the Festival of Debate in Sheffield, hosted by Opus. This is an unflinching conversation, but it's absolutely at the cutting edge of imagineering: this lays out where we're at and what we need to do, but it also gives us roadmap…
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Farm as Church, Land as Lover: Community. farming and food with Abel Pearson of Glasbren
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1:16:50We all know the future rests upon us building heart-grounded, spirit-led communities that link humanity to the Web of Life. We know that the key to this is building reciprocal relationships with our food and the land from which it comes. Doing this is…harder. So this week, we're speaking with Abel Pearson of Glasbren. Abel is a friend of the podcas…
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190: ‘AI + KM = Smarter AEC Firms’, with Christopher Parsons
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1:26:14Christopher Parsons joins the podcast to talk about about the evolution of knowledge management (KM) in the AEC industry—from KM 1.0 (knowledge capture) to KM 2.0 (knowledge sharing), to KM 3.0 (knowledge in the flow of work). We explore how AI is catalyzing a shift toward real-time, firm-wide knowledge operations, and why success in this new era i…
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Speaker Mike Johnson, Sen. Ron Johnson and Sen. Michael Bennet
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42:58On CNN’s State of the Union, Jake presses House Speaker Mike Johnson on the impact the GOP tax and spending bill will have on the national debt and on Medicaid. Next, Republican Sen. Ron Johnson joins Jake to detail his concerns about the bill and his threat to sink it unless there are steeper spending cuts. Then, Democratic Sen. Michael Bennet joi…
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Working from the Inside Out: Paths to Personal and Global Transformation with Renée Lertzman
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1:09:54We've known for decades that the 'Yell, Tell and Sell' strategy of belittling people, endeavouring to cajole—or shame—them into some kind of change doesn't work - in fact it can't work. It's not how we're wired. Cognitive neuroscience has been telling us this for decades but it's only recently that people have begun to listen. One of those who has …
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189: ‘The Rise of the Balkan Architect’, with Milos Temerinski
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1:31:58Milos Temerinski joins the podcast to talk about his massively popular YouTube channel Balkan Architect, his journey from architecture student to full-time content creator, and how YouTube became a global classroom for Revit and other architectural software. We also talk about the power of self-directed learning, the realities of working with compl…
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Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, Rep. James Clyburn, David Axelrod and Van Jones
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43:58On CNN’s State of the Union, Jake Tapper sits down with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to discuss Trump’s tariff policy, efforts to negotiate trade deals, and plans for the US to accept a luxury jet from Qatar. Then, Jake presses Democratic Rep. James Clyburn over his past support for Joe Biden’s re-election campaign amid new reporting about Bide…
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The Others Within Us: Meeting our Spirit Guides and other entities with Bob Falconer
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1:11:31Our world is more magical than we know - more than we can know. Increasing numbers of us are realising that the 'citadel theory of mind' where we see ourselves as isolated units within the boundaries of our own skulls is not how the world works. But if it isn't, then how do we make sense of the worlds beyond consensus reality? How do we engage with…
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188: ‘Getting Comfortable Being Uncomfortable’, with Gavin Crump
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1:14:26Gavin Crump joins the podcast to talk about his personal and professional evolution from an introverted graduate architect who stumbled through his first Revit test to becoming one of the most visible and trusted voices in AEC technology. We talk about programming as a creative outlet, the surprisingly emotional experience of automating his first w…
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Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, Dem. Reps. Bonnie Watson Coleman, LaMonica McIver, and Rob Menendez, former Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and former New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu
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48:33On CNN’s State of the Union, Dana Bash presses Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick for details on Trump’s trade negotiations with China and the impact tariffs are having on Americans. Then, Democratic Reps. Bonnie Watson Coleman, LaMonica McIver, and Rob Menendez join Dana to respond to the Trump administration’s threat that they could be arrested af…
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Radical Change: Building a Parallel Economy with Peter Kemp of Citizen Coin
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1:20:14We are living through a time between stories—where the old economic narratives of scarcity, extraction, and separation are crumbling, and a new one is seeking to be born. At the heart of this transition is the question: What do we truly value, and how do we express that value in ways that nourish life? Imagine a society where every act of care, con…
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187: ‘It’s Just Poly’s on a Map’, with Rob Asher and James Blackwood
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1:18:26Rob Asher and James Blackwood join the podcast to talk about the real-world complexity of designing and delivering projects—and how their work at Giraffe is bridging the gaps between technology, governance, culture, commercial intent, and design. We explore the limits of traditional tools and approach, the pitfalls of over-simplified models, and wh…
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Dem. Sen. Mark Warner, Rep. Sen. Ron Johnson and Stephen A. Smith
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43:29On CNN’s State of the Union, Jake sits down with Democratic Sen. Mark Warner to discuss Trump’s shake-up of his national security team. Then, Jake asks Republican Sen. Ron Johnson about a growing lead crisis in Milwaukee, as well as Americans’ unease over Trump’s handling of the economy. Next, Stephen A. Smith joins Jake to discuss whether he is co…
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Beyond Zero Sum: Rehumanising our Conflicts with Carm Aufderheide of NorthStar Training Solutions
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1:35:41All flourishing is mutual, that's a given. And yet the schisms in our culture, the tribal divides and limbic hijack seem to grow deeper and more powerful by the day. It doesn't have to be like this. We do have the tools of connection, of genuine listening, of offering trust to gain trust and offering respect to gain respect, we just need to know ho…
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186: ‘Bringing a Bazooka to a Banana Fight’, with Clifton Harness
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1:34:23Clifton Harness joins the podcast to talk about the future of architectural technology, the challenges of competing with established software giants, and the importance of staying true to a focused vision. Clifton shares insights about TestFit's journey, the role of AI in architecture, and why attempting to compete directly with Revit might be miss…
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Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins
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46:23On CNN’s State of the Union, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer joins Dana Bash for a wide-ranging interview on Ukraine peace talks, Trump’s handling of immigration and the economy, Schumer’s future as a leader in his party, and rising antisemitism in America. Next, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins joins Dana to discuss the continued economic…
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185: ‘Radical Transparency’, with Robert Yuen
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1:02:00Robert Yuen joins the podcast to talk about data integrity, the evolving business of architecture, and why “radical transparency” is something the AEC industry must adopt and incorporate. In this conversation, we examine the problems with traditional industry benchmarking, the risks of making decisions based on flawed data, and how Monograph’s new …
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Red Pill/Blue Pill, Green Pill/True Pill – Creating a Media Commons with Debs Grayson of Opus Independents
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1:24:28Our legacy - or status quo - media is owned and run by billionaires for billionaires and the stories they promote are the ones that will keep us all in line. How do we shift the global narrative towards a future of mutual flourishing? It is axiomatic of this podcast that stories – the good and the bad – are what got us to where we are. We are a sto…
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Sen. Chris Van Hollen, House Majority Whip Rep. Tom Emmer and Sen. Amy Klobuchar
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44:04On CNN’s State of the Union, Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen joins Dana Bash to discuss his trip to El Salvador to meet with deported migrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Then, Dana presses House GOP Whip Rep. Tom Emmer on Trump’s standoff with the courts over his immigration policies. After, Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar tells Dana that she believes the…
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184: ‘Chaos Evolves’, with Stephan Sieber and Bill Allen
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1:12:11Stephan Sieber and Bill Allen join the podcast to talk about how and why Chaos and EvolveLba have combined forces, and we talk about tools from AI rendering with Veras to innovative tools like Glyph and Envision, change in the industry, complacency, disruption, and more. To learn more about Stephan Sieber and Bill Allen, see the full show notes wit…
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How to Save the World - tipping points of social diffusion with Katie Patrick of Hello World Labs
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1:18:42'If you're not changing the numbers, you're not changing the world.' So says this week's guest, Katie Patrick. Katie Patrick is a Silicon Valley based environmental engineer, climate action designer, and author of How to Save the World: How to Make Changing the World the Greatest Game We've Ever Played, now taught in Harvard University’s graduate p…
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On CNN’s State of the Union, Jake Tapper presses National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett over the confusion and turmoil caused by Trump’s tariff rollout. Then, Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren joins Jake to discuss how Democrats should respond to Trump’s economic chaos. Finally, CNN Political Commentators Brad Todd and Ashley Allison, Repu…
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Bonus: Thoughts from the Edge - If the current system is not fit for purpose, what's our core response?
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35:02Suppose we accept that the current system is not broken - it is doing what it was always designed to do - which is to shovel wealth and power from the many to the few at a human scale and from the more-than-human world to the industrial/technical maw of predatory capitalism at an ecological scale. This is a death cult and it is in its death throes,…
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Wellbeing: It’s about wholeness, not happiness - with Dr Mark Fabian, author of Beyond Happy
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1:48:00We grow up thinking we want to be happy (or at least, not-sad). But happiness isn't enough. What we need is wellbeing, and as Dr Mark Fabian quotes in the dedication to his book, Beyond Happy, "Wellbeing is about wholeness, not happiness, and wholeness is so much more demanding than happiness.' So what is wholeness, and what does it demand of us? A…
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183: ‘An Appetite for Transformation’, with Natalia Bakaeva
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1:30:10Natalia Bakaeva joins the podcast to talk about the topics of rethinking data, process, and innovation and discuss the challenges of redundant work, the myth of spontaneous innovation inside firms, the value of knowledge retention, and how AI and purpose-built tools like ARKI are transforming how architects access information. Natalia shares her pe…
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Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins and Gov. Tim Walz
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46:47On CNN’s State of the Union, Jake Tapper presses Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins for clarity on Trump’s sweeping tariffs as the economic fallout grows. Then, Democratic Gov. Tim Walz joins Jake to respond and to weigh in on what he thinks Democrats’ strategy needs to be to counter Trump. Finally, CNN Senior Political Commentator David Urban, C…
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A Longing for Belonging: Shifting the Cultural Paradigm with Looby Macnamara and Leona Johnson
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1:23:58If we are in the midst of the Great Derangement (thank you Amitav Ghosh), what tools do we have to help us shape a system that is actually fit for purpose? Who are our elders and what can they teach us? How do we learn to listen to our heart's (and hearts') desire and shape the communities of place, passion and purpose that will allow us to emerge …
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182: ‘Imagining Where We Want to Go’, with Dan Chuparkoff
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1:14:23Dan Chuparkoff joins the podcast to talk about why traditional industries like architecture need to embrace reinvention. We discuss practical ways to foster innovation despite resistance, explore the dual nature of technology, and dive into topics like innovation through separation, AI's true potential, diversity as a catalyst for innovation, refra…
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Interviews with Republican Senator James Lankford; Democratic Governor Wes Moore
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43:22On CNN’s State of the Union, Republican Sen. James Lankford joins Dana Bash to discuss the fallout from the Trump administration’s Signal chat leak, as well as the impact from President Trump’s escalating trade war. Then, Dana asks Democratic Governor and potential 2028 candidate Wes Moore about Democrats struggle to find a path forward under the T…
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Now Then! Building networks of citizen power with James Lock of Opus in Sheffield
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1:14:32We all know the current system of predatory capitalism is not fit for purpose. We don't (yet) all agree on how to fix it, but for sure, no problem is solved from the mindset that created it. So how do we begin to compost the debris of the failing system to grow something constructive, generative, connected communities that can act as a bridge from …
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181: ‘Densities of Information’, with Matt Jezyk
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1:24:58Matt Jezyk joins the podcast to talk about his journey from architecture to software development and his pioneering work with platforms like Autodesk Revit, Dynamo, and now Motif. We discuss the evolution of design collaboration tools, the impact of new technologies on the architectural design process, and how embracing real-time collaboration and …
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Interviews with Secretary of Education Linda McMahon; Representative Ro Khanna
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44:32On CNN’s State of the Union, Secretary of Education Linda McMahon joins Dana Bash exclusively to discuss what the future looks like for the Department of Education as President Donald Trump pushes to dismantle it. Next, Dana asks Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna if a new Tea Party is forming among Democrats. Then, Democratic Rep. Jason Crow, CNN Se…
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Be More Hawk! Being the courage to follow what's right with Rachel Musson of ThoughtBox Education
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1:13:58The old systems are no longer fit for purpose. What does an education system look like that's fit for the twenty-first century - where we put self care, people care, earth care at the heart of what we do? This week's guest, Rachel Musson, has made it her life's work to fashion ways of learning for all ages that put this Triple Wellbeing principle i…
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