Politics and Religion. We’re not supposed to talk about that, right? Wrong! We only say that nowadays because the loudest, most extreme voices have taken over the whole conversation. Well, we‘re taking some of that space back! If you’re dying for some dialogue instead of all the yelling; if you know it’s okay to have differences without having to hate each other; if you believe politics and religion are too important to let ”the screamers” drown out the rest of us and would love some engagin ...
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The Unflinching Eye: McKay Coppins on Journalism, the Threats to Our Freedoms and the Power of Inquiry
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1:12:18🎙️Award-winning journalist and Atlantic staff writer McKay Coppins joins us to explore the delicate intersections of politics, faith, and journalism. From shadowing Donald Trump to chronicling the political journey of Mitt Romney, McKay shares what it takes to pursue truth in turbulent times. What We Discuss: What it’s like getting rare access to T…
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Episode 256 - The Quietest MP5 Silencers and Listener Questions (23-APR-2025)
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42:55Today’s Topics: 1. Member Research Supplement 6.184 – The Quietest 9mm Silencers - MP5 Silencer Detailed Loudness and Tone Comparisons. We compare the loudness, tone, and severity of the CAT MOB, Dead Air Wolfman, GSL Phoenix, HUXWRX CASH 9K, Otter Creek Labs Lithium, PTR VENT 2, and Resilient RS9. Who comes out on top, and how? (00:06:14) 2. Liste…
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I Was Right About the Law, But My Delivery Was WRONG: How to Discuss Threats to Our Rights Without Being a Jerk
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26:18In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares a candid reflection about a recent encounter where he was right on the facts and the law—but completely wrong in how he presented them. Yet if we're honest with ourselves about when we make mistakes, it's a good opportunity to learn, reminding us that how we communicate is just as important as what we commu…
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Untangling the Partisan Knot: A Balanced Look at Political News with Isaac Saul of Tangle
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1:13:36In this episode, we sit down with Isaac Saul, founder of Tangle, a widely respected, nonpartisan political newsletter. Isaac and his team bring a fresh approach to political journalism by curating multiple perspectives—right, left, and independent—on major stories of the day. Corey, a fan and avid reader of Tangle, dives deep into Isaac’s upbringin…
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Episode 255 - BOE Mod 1 M4 Testing Intro and Listener Questions (16-APR-2025)
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1:00:02Today’s Topics: 1. Sound Signature Review 6.183 – BOE Mod 1 on the 14.5-in mid-length gas 5.56 M4A1. Yet another player entering the 5.56 suppression space. 3D printing involved? Of course. A bit of a twist with some conventional elements? Yes! This is the introductory discussion to accompany the technical paper published concurrently with this epi…
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(ICYMI) Beyond Right and Left: Rabbi Sharon Brous and the Courage to Ask 'What Do You See?' After October 7th
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1:08:54In this deeply moving episode, Corey Nathan welcomes Rabbi Sharon Brous, the senior and founding rabbi of IKAR, a groundbreaking Jewish community based in Los Angeles. Rabbi Brous is also the author of The Amen Effect: Ancient Wisdom to Heal Our Hearts and Mend Our Broken World. Together, they explore ancient traditions, mental health, spiritual le…
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From Bible School to 'Trump Grumpies': Gen Z Asks, What Would Jesus Really Do? with Emerson Riley Nathan
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1:19:36In this heartfelt and wide-ranging episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with a very special guest — his own son, Emerson Riley Nathan. Together, they dive into Gen Z’s unique perspective on faith, politics, and culture. As a young adult navigating the complexities of belief, identity, and creativity, Emerson offers refreshing candor about his spiri…
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Episode 254 - Dead Air Wolfman Testing and MP5 Performance Research (09-APR-2025)
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1:06:28Today’s Topics: 1. Sound Signature Review 6.182 – the Dead Air Wolfman on the HK SP5 – in both long and short configurations. Prolific (and also misunderstood) submachine gun silencer. Let’s dive into the technical discussion of the data and analysis published last week. a. Introduction (00:07:46) b. Physical Characteristics (00:17:31) c. Technical…
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Will Saletan: Navigating Toxic Partisanship and Challenging Extremist Absurdity
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1:28:38In this episode, we welcome back political journalist and author Will Saletan. Will, formerly of Slate and now a writer for The Bulwark, is known for his sharp insights on American democracy, political corruption, and authoritarianism. Will reflects on the pivotal events leading up to and following the 2024 election, including Joe Biden’s withdrawa…
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Dumb Ideas Welcome? Navigating Free Speech and Falsehoods in a Divided Democracy
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57:18In this solo episode, host Corey Nathan takes a deep dive into one of the foundational guidelines we've used in curating conversations both in person and online: handling misinformation. Corey reflects on his experiences moderating political and religious discussions, the evolution of social media moderation, and the fine balance between protecting…
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(Best of) David Brooks, HOW TO KNOW A PERSON: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen
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1:06:48This conversation with David Brooks was a real highlight. We originally recorded our talk just after his most recent book HOW TO KNOW A PERSON was released. Enjoy. You might recognize David Brooks from his columns in The New York Times or his essays in The Atlantic. Perhaps you’ve seen him on PBS NewsHour or Meet the Press. He’s also a prolific aut…
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Episode 253 - Dead Air Wolfman Testing, Echo Zulu Defense, OSU, and PEW Anniversary (02-APR-2025)
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1:38:35Today’s Topics: 1. The Silencer Sound Standard is now 5 years old! Thank you for supporting PEW Science all of these years and helping make this the industry standard for silencer sound suppression performance. (00:09:05) 2. Big thanks to Oklahoma State University! Engineering faculty and students attended our seminar last week – a very welcoming g…
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Mónica Guzmán: Breaking the Cycle of Outrage Through Fearlessly Curious Conversations
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1:03:18In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Monica Guzmán, Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, host of A Braver Way podcast, CEO of Reclaim Curiosity, and author of I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times. Monica’s mission is to help bridge America’s political di…
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Can we bridge the partisan divide and have constructive dialogue about politics and religion with "them" - people who have different beliefs about democracy, politics and religion? Are we able to simply have civil, civic conversations? (We're grateful to have a number of new listeners. So we thought it'd be good to revisit this episode that was fir…
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A Frank Discussion on American Politics with an "Untethered Expat" Originally from Bucks County PA
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1:28:36In this episode, host Corey Nathan reconnects with his longtime friend Gary Keifer, an expat currently living in Peru. Gary brings a refreshingly honest and “untethered” perspective to U.S. politics, unfiltered by party loyalty or institutional affiliation. With a background in comedy, improv, and theater, Gary offers thoughtful insights rooted in …
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Speaking Truth to Power (and to the Pews): Peter Wehner on the Evangelical Vote and America's Future
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55:54In this conversation, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Peter Wehner, contributing writer at The Atlantic and The New York Times, senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, and author of multiple books including The Death of Politics and City of Man. A former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, Pete brings a unique perspective shaped by his deep poli…
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Beyond Arguments: Setting Boundaries and Clearing the Brush for Civil Political and Religious Conversations
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38:26In this episode, we explore some essential tools for navigating difficult conversations in today’s polarized world. After all, we are part of The Democracy Group! And our goal with TDG and this program is to foster respectful, insightful discussions on politics, religion, and other sensitive topics—without resorting to hostility. In this solo episo…
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Episode 252 - Echo Zulu Defense X1R556-Ti Testing Intro (19-MAR-2025)
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32:37Today’s Topics: 1. Sound Signature Review 6.181 – the Echo Zulu Defense X1R556-Ti on the 5.56 standard untuned mid-gas 14.5-in barrel M4A1. Yet ANOTHER hybrid design? Yes. Now, are there levels to this? Also, yes. What happens when certain parameters are changed and slightly deviate from some core design principles? Introductory discussion for this…
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Charlie Sykes - From Reagan Republicans to RFK Jr.: How the Right Lost Its Mind (Again)
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1:12:26In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Charlie Sykes, a prominent conservative commentator, former talk radio host, and founder of The Bulwark, who's currently writing and podcasting on his excellent Substack To the Contrary. Known for his sharp political insights and willingness to challenge the current trajectory of the Republican Part…
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Grave Concerns and Glimmers of Hope: Navigating the State of US Politics
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28:07In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares his candid thoughts on hope, concerns about the state of democracy, and the importance of engaging in meaningful conversations. Inspired by recent discussions with David French and Charlie Sykes, Corey explores whether he remains hopeful about the future—both at the national level and in his local community…
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Episode 251 - Centurion Arms Maximus-L Technical Discussion (13-MAR-2025)
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1:05:00Today’s Topic: 1. Sound Signature Review 6.180 – the Centurion Arms Maximus-L on the 5.56 standard untuned MK18. Another hybrid design, and another dedicated 5.56 model. This is the technical discussion for the report published last week. a. Introduction. (00:08:55) b. Metrics – what are they good for, anyway? (00:14:25) c. Maximus-L and the compet…
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David French | Friends or Enemies? Overcoming Divides with Justice, Kindness, and Humility in a Polarized America
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1:15:36In this episode, we welcome back David French, columnist for The New York Times, former constitutional attorney, and author of Divided We Fall. We discuss the current state of American democracy, the challenges of political division, and how we can engage in civil discourse despite deep ideological differences. David also shares a personal update o…
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How to Discuss Ukraine: First Principles, Facts, and Formulating Reasoned Positions
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33:54In this episode we dive into the complex issue of Ukraine, America's involvement, and the broader implications for democracy and global alliances. This episode is an exploration of how we can develop reasoned positions on global conflicts, engage in informed discussions, and recognize the limitations of our own expertise. What We Discuss How to app…
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Episode 250 - Centurion Arms Maximus-L Testing Intro and Walther PPK-SD Update (05-MAR-2025)
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48:01Today’s Topics: 1. Sound Signature Review 6.180 – the Centurion Arms Maximus-L on the 5.56 standard untuned MK18. Oh, my goodness gracious. Yet another hybrid design on the market?! The humanity! Dedicated 5.56 model, Inconel, light weight…. Does it bring the performance? This is the introductory discussion for the report published today with this …
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Rep. Ritchie Torres on Israel, Trump, and Political Extremism: A Congressman's Fight for Moral Clarity
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31:18In this episode we sit down with Congressman Ritchie Torres, a fighter from the Bronx who has spent his life advocating for his community. We discuss pressing issues such as the social safety net, housing inequality, mental health, bipartisanship, and Rep. Torres’ personal journey from public housing to Congress. We also touch on Israel, antisemiti…
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Episode 249 - Otter Creek Labs Infinity Testing Technical Performance (26-FEB-2025)
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1:19:44Today’s Topics: 1. Sound Signature Review 6.178 – the Otter Creek Labs Infinity on .308 bolt-action. New hybrid design silencer from OCL – two tests; both solid and vented 7.62 end caps. Technical discussion of the Infinity’s .308 performance. a. Intro and Infinity physical characteristics (00:07:34) b. Solid 7.62 end cap technical performance walk…
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Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde on Faith, Politics, and Ethical Conversations in a Polarized Nation
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1:06:54In this timely edition of Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other, host Corey Nathan welcomes Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C., and the Washington National Cathedral. Bishop Budde is a well-respected spiritual leader who has appeared on PBS NewsHour, Meet the Press, Good Morning Amer…
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In this episode, host Corey Nathan takes on one of the biggest challenges in today’s society: toxic partisanship. He explores how political and social divisions have deepened, fueled by media, social networks, and entrenched ideological battles. But rather than just diagnosing the problem, Corey offers a powerful antidote—getting local and engaging…
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Episode 248 - Otter Creek Labs Infinity Testing Intro (19-FEB-2025)
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34:03Today’s Topics: 1. Sound Signature Review 6.178 – the Otter Creek Labs Infinity on .308 bolt-action. New hybrid design silencer from OCL – two tests; both solid and vented 7.62 end caps. How does this technology perform with 7.62 NATO? Introductory discussion for this whitepaper published today. (00:09:35) 2. Sound Signature Review 6.179 – the Otte…
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MONEY, LIES, AND GOD: INSIDE THE MOVEMENT TO DESTROY AMERICAN DEMOCRACY with author and investigative journalist Katherine Stewart
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49:26In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes investigative journalist and author Katherine Stewart back to the show. Katherine has spent over 15 years researching and reporting on religious nationalism and its impact on American democracy. Her new book, Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy, exposes the deep financi…
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Have Christians Forgotten the First Commandment?
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34:04In this edition, Corey Nathan challenges listeners—especially his fellow Christians—to consider whether they have forgotten the first commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." He explores how idolatry has evolved beyond worshiping wooden idols and now manifests in politics, ideology, and the way Christians engage with their faith in a…
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Episode 247 - Dead Air Mojave 9 Testing and PEW Science Technical Discussion (12-FEB-2025)
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1:10:39Today’s Topic: 1. Sound Signature Review 6.177 – the Dead Air Mojave 9 on the HK P30L. Long and short configuration. Triskelion baffle technology. Technical discussion covering the performance of this new hybrid design in the market. What makes the new 3D-printed Dead Air technology tick? Subtopic timestamps: a. Introduction: (00:06:42) b. Physical…
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California’s Path to Independence? A Conversation about CalExit with Marcus Ruiz Evans
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1:06:36In this episode, host Corey Nathan engages in a timely and candid discussion with Marcus Ruiz Evans, the leader of the CalExit movement. Marc has been spearheading efforts to make California an independent nation for over a decade, publishing California’s Next Century 2.0 in 2012. With the California Secretary of State recently approving a petition…
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The Homeless Conservative: Blake Fischer
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1:15:08In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Blake Fischer, the creator and host of The Homeless Conservative podcast. Blake describes himself as a constitutional conservative who feels politically "homeless" in today’s climate. They dive deep into politics, faith, and media, all while challenging ideological silos in an engaging and candid co…
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Episode 246 - Dead Air Mojave 9 Testing Intro and Listener Questions (05-FEB-2025)
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57:57Today’s Topics: 1. Sound Signature Review 6.177 – the Dead Air Mojave 9 on the HK P30L. Long and short configuration. Triskelion baffle technology. Another hybrid design in the market? You betcha! Highly requested research project and we went pretty deep! Find out what makes the new 3D-printed Dead Air technology tick in this latest whitepaper. Thi…
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Jonathan Rauch: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy
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1:30:00In this episode, we welcome back Jonathan Rauch, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a contributing writer at The Atlantic. Jon joined us to discuss his new book, Cross Purposes: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy. We dive deep into the intersection of faith, democracy, and civic engagement (that's our jam!), exploring how Amer…
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Is it possible to have decent conversations across political differences. Short answer: Yeah! In this episode, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a …
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Episode 245 - PEW Science PTR VENT Spiritus 556i Technical Discussion (29-JAN-2025)
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1:14:44Today’s Topics: 1. PEW Science Rankings Table Refresh – easier to use? Maybe. More organized? Definitely. Color-coded risk metrics? Finally! Please check out the update if you haven’t. It’s in both the public and member Rankings sections. (00:07:35) 2. Sound Signature Review 6.175 – the PTR VENT Spiritus 556i on the standard 10.3-in MK18. The VENT …
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