Risky Business is a weekly information security podcast featuring news and in-depth interviews with industry luminaries. Launched in February 2007, Risky Business is a must-listen digest for information security pros. With a running time of approximately 50-60 minutes, Risky Business is pacy; a security podcast without the waffle.
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Risky Business #819 -- Venezuela (credibly?!) blames USA for wiper attack
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54:05In the final show of 2025, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: React2Shell attacks continue, surprising no one The unholy combination of OAuth consent phishing, social engineering and Azure CLI Venezuela’s state oil firm gets ransomware’d, blames US… but what if it really is a US cyber op?! Russian junk-h…
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In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast, Patrick Gray chats with Jared Atkinson, CTO of SpecterOps, about BloodHound OpenGraph. OpenGraph enumerates attack paths across platforms and services, not just your primary directories. A compromised GitHub account to on-prem AD compromise attack path? It’s a thing, and OpenGraph wi…
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Risky Business #818 -- React2Shell is a fun one
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58:27In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: There’s a CVSS 10/10 remote code exec in the React javascript server. JS server? U wot mate? China is out popping shells with it Linux adds support for PCIe bus encryption Amnesty International says Intellexa can just TeamViewer into its customers’ s…
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Risky Business #817 -- Less carnage than your usual Thanksgiving
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1:01:06In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. It’s a quiet week with Thanksgiving in the US, but there’s always some cyber to talk about: Airbus rolls out software updates after a cosmic ray bitflips an A320 into a dive Krebs tracks down a Scattered Lapsus$ Hunters teen through the usual poor opsec… … as W…
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Risky Business #816 -- Copilot Actions for Windows is extremely dicey
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58:07In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Salesforce partner Gainsight has customer data stolen Crowdstrike fires insider who gave hackers screenshots of internal systems Australian Parliament turns off wifi and bluetooth in fear of of visiting Chinese bigwigs Shai-Hulud npm/Github worm is b…
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Risky Biz Soap Box: Greynoise knows when bad bugs are coming
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37:51In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the podcast, Andrew Morris joins Patrick Gray to talk about how Greynoise can often get a 90 day heads up on serious vulnerabilities. Whether it’s malicious actors doing reconnaissance or the affected vendors trying to understand the scope of the problem, it seems that mass scanning activity lines up pretty nic…
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Risky Business #815 -- Anthropic's AI APT report is a big deal
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51:24In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Anthropic says a Chinese APT orchestrated attacks using its AI It’s a day ending in -y, so of course there are shamefully bad Fortinet exploits in the wild Turns out slashing CISA was a bad idea, now it’s time for a hiring spree Researchers brute for…
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Risky Business #814 -- It's a bad time to be a scam compound operator
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1:03:19In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: The KK Park scam compound in Myanmar gets blasted with actual dynamite China sentences more scammers TO DEATH While Singapore is opting to lash them with the cane Chinese security firm KnownSec leaks a bunch of documents Necromancy continues on NSO G…
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Risky Business #813 -- FFmpeg has a point
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1:05:08In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: We love some good vulnerability reporting drama, this time FFmpeg’s got beef with Google OpenAI announces its Aardvark bug-gobbling system Two US ransomware responders get arrested for… ransomware Memento (nee HackingTeam) CEO says: Sì, those are tot…
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Risky Business #812 -- Alleged Trenchant exploit mole is ex-ASD
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1:06:14In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: L3Harris Trenchant boss accused of selling exploits to Russia once worked at the Australian Signals Directorate Microsoft WSUS bug being exploited in the wild Dan Kaminsky DNS cache poisoning comes back because of a bad PRNG SpaceX finally starts dis…
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Risky Business #811 -- F5 is the tip of the crap software iceberg
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51:51In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: China has been rummaging in F5’s networks for a couple of years Meanwhile China tries to deflect by accusing the NSA of hacking its national timing system Salesforce hackers use their stolen data trove to dox NSA, ICE employees Crypto stealing, proxy…
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Wide World of Cyber: A deep dive on the F5 hack
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39:11In this edition of the Wide World of Cyber podcast Patrick Gray talks to Chris Krebs and Alex Stamos about the F5 incident. They talk about what happened, whether it’s a big deal, and why private equity ownership of mid-tier cybersecurity companies is often a red flag. Show notes
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Risky Biz Soap Box: Why Mastercard is scaling its cybersecurity business
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30:49In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast, host Patrick Gray chats with Mastercard’s Executive Vice President and Head of Security Solutions, Johan Gerber, about how the card brand thinks about cybersecurity and why it’s aggressively investing in the space. After listening to this interview you’ll understand why the credit ca…
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Risky Business #810 -- Data extortion attacks have a silver lining
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1:03:12In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: FBI intervenes in Scattered Spider Salesforce leaksite Clop loots Oracle E-Biz deployments Plus so much more data extortion.. At least it’s not ransomware … we guess? The US still can’t decide who’s gonna be in charge of NSA & Cybercom Cambodian scam…
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Snake Oilers: Realm Security, Horizon3 and Persona
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Risky Business #809 -- Hackers try to pay a journalist for access to the BBC
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39:28On this week’s show Patrick Gray is on holiday so Amberleigh Jack and Adam Boileau hijack the studio to discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Hackers learn that trying to coerce a journalist just makes for … a great story? A man in his 40s gets arrested over the European airport chaos. Yep, we’re surprised, too. Adam fanboys over Watcht…
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Risky Business #808 -- Insane megabug in Entra left all tenants exposed
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52:37On this week’s show Patrick Gray and special guest Rob Joyce discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Secret Service raids a SIM farm in New York MI6 launches a dark web portal Are the 2023 Scattered Spider kids finally getting their comeuppance? Production halt continues for Jaguar Land Rover GitHub tightens its security after Shai-Hulud …
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Risky Business #807 -- Shai-Hulud npm worm wreaks old-school havoc
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53:19On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Shai-Hulud worm propagates via npm and steals credentials Jaguar Land Rover attack may put smaller suppliers out of business Leaked data emerges from the vendor behind the Great Firewall of China Vastaamo hacker walks free while appeal is underway Wh…
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Risky Biz Soap Box: runZero shakes up vulnerability management
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34:17In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast, industry legend HD Moore joins the show to talk about runZero’s major push into vulnerability management. With its new Nuclei integration, runZero is now able to get a very accurate picture of what’s vulnerable in your environment, without spraying highly privileged credentials at at…
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Risky Business #806 -- Apple's Memory Integrity Enforcement is a big deal
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51:42On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Apple ruins exploit developers’ week with fresh memory corruption mitigations Feross Aboukhadijeh drops by to talk about the big, dumb npm supply chain attack Salesloft says its GitHub was the initial entry point for its compromise Sitecore says peop…
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Snake Oilers: Nebulock, Vali Cyber and Cape
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46:33In this edition of the Snake Oilers podcasts, three vendors pop in to pitch you all on their wares: Automated, AI-powered threat hunting with Nebulock Damien Lewke from Nebulock joins the show to talk about how its agentic AI platform can surface attacker activity out of all those “low” and “informational” findings your detection team doesn’t have …
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Risky Business #805 -- On the Salesloft Drift breach and "OAuth soup"
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1:01:55On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: The Salesloft breach and why OAuth soup is a problem The Salt Typhoon telco hackers turn out to be Chinese private sector, but state-directed Google says it will stand up a “disruption unit” Microsoft writes up a ransomware gang that’s all-in on the …
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Risky Business #804 -- Phrack's DPRK hacker is probably a Chinese APT guy
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53:32On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Australia expels Iranian ambassador Hackers sabotage Iranian shipping satcoms APT hacker got doxxed in Phrack. Kind of. They’re probably Chinese, not DPRK? Trail of Bits uses image-downscaling to sneak prompts into Google Gemini The Com’s King Bob ge…
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Wide World of Cyber: Microsoft's China Entanglement
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45:43The Wide World of Cyber podcast is back! In this episode host Patrick Gray chats with Alex Stamos and Chris Krebs about Microsoft’s entanglement in China. Redmond has been using Chinese engineers to do everything from remotely support US DoD private cloud systems to maintain the on premise version of the SharePoint code base. It’s all blown up in t…
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Risky Business #803 -- Oracle's CSO Mary Ann Davidson quietly departs
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58:28On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Oracle’s long term CSO departs, and we’re not that sad about it Canada’s House of Commons gets popped through a Microsoft bug Russia degrades voice calls via Whatsapp and Telegram to push people towards Max South-East Asian scam compounds are also be…
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Risky Biz Soap Box: How to measure vulnerability reachability
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35:48In this Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Socket founder Feross Aboukhadijeh about how to measure the reachability of vulnerabilities in applications. It’s great to know there’s a CVE in a library you’re using, but it’s even better if you can say whether or not that vulnerability actually impacts your applicatio…
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Risky Business #802 -- Accessing internal Microsoft apps with your Hotmail creds
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1:00:00On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: CISA warns about the path from on-prem Exchange to the cloud Microsoft awards a crisp zero dollar bill for a report about what a mess its internal Entra-authed apps are Everyone and their dog seems to have a shell in US Federal Court information syst…
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Risky Business #801 -- AI models can hack well now and it's weirding us out
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1:06:01On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. Google security engineering VP Heather Adkins drops by to talk about their AI bug hunter, and Risky Business producer Amberleigh Jack makes her main show debut. This episode explores the rise of AI-powered bug hunting: Google’s Project Zero and Deepmind team up…
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Soap Box: Why AI can't fix bad security products
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37:11In this Soap Box edition of the show Patrick Gray chats with the CEO of email security company Sublime Security, Josh Kamdjou. They talk about where AI is useful, where it isn’t, and why AI can’t save vendors from their bad product design choices. This episode is also available on Youtube. Show notes…
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Risky Business #800 — The SharePoint bug may have leaked from Microsoft MAPP
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53:37On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Did the SharePoint bug leak out of the Microsoft MAPP program? Expel retracts its FIDO bypass writeup The mess surrounding the women-only dating-safety app Tea gets worse Broadcom customers struggle to get patches for VMWare hypervisor escapes Aeroflot gets hac…
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Risky Business #799 -- Everyone's Sharepoint gets shelled
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1:13:55Risky Biz returns after two weeks off, and there sure is cybersecurity news to catch up on. Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss: Microsoft tried to make outsourcing the Pentagon’s cloud maintenance to China okay (it was not) She shells Sharepoint by the sea-shore (by ‘she’ we mean ‘China’) Four (alleged) Scattered Spider members arrested (and bai…
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Risky Biz Soap Box: Prowler, the open cloud security platform
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32:08In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Toni de la Fuente, founder of open source multi-cloud security product Prowler. Toni explains how Prowler came to be, and how its journey followed his own learning about the cloud. The pair also discuss Prowler’s successful transition from an open-source projec…
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Risky Business #798 -- Mexican cartel surveilled the FBI to identify, kill witnesses
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1:02:19On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Australian airline Qantas looks like it got a Scattered Spider-ing Microsoft works towards blunting the next CrowdStrike disaster Changes are coming for Microsoft’s default enterprise app consenting setup Synology downplays hardcoded passwords for its M365 clou…
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Risky Business #797 -- Stuxnet vs Massive Ordnance Penetrators
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1:02:16On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: We roll our eyes over the “16 billion credentials” leak hitting mainstream news Some interesting cyber angles emerge from the conflict in Iran Opensource maintainer of libxml2 is fed up with this hacker crap Shockingly, there are yet more ways to trick people i…
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Risky Business #796 -- With special guest co-host Chris Krebs
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1:01:04On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau are joined by special guest Chris Krebs to discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. They talk through: Israeli “hacktivists” take out an Iranian state-owned bank Scattered-spider and friends pivot into attacking insurers Securing identities in a cloud-first world keeps us awake at night Microsoft take…
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Soap Box: AI has entered the SOC, and it ain't going anywhere
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30:58In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Dropzone AI founder Ed Wu about the role of LLMs in the SOC. The debate about whether AI agents are going to wind up in the SOC is over, they’ve already arrived. But what are they good for? What are they NOT good for? And where else will we see AI popping up in…
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Risky Business #795 -- How The Com is hacking Salesforce tenants
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1:07:34On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: New York Times gets a little stolen Russian FSB data as a treat iVerify spots possible evidence of iOS exploitation against the Harris-Walz campaign Researcher figures out a trick to get Google account holders’ full names and phone numbers Major US food distrib…
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Risky Business #794 -- Psychic Panda outgunned by Fluffy Lizard and UNC56728242
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58:22On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Cyber firms agree to deconflict and cross-reference hacker group names Russian nuclear facility blueprints gathered from public procurement websites Someone audio deepfaked the White House Chief of Staff, but for the dumbest reasons Germany identifies the Trick…
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Risky Business #793 -- Scattered Spider is hijacking MX records
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1:04:52In this week’s edition of Risky Business Dmitri Alperovitch and Adam Boileau join Patrick Gray to talk through the week’s news, including: EXCLUSIVE: A Scattered Spider-style crew is hijacking DNS MX entries and compromising enterprises within minutes The SVG format brings the all horrors of HTML+JS to image files, and attackers have noticed Brian …
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Risky Business #792 -- Beware, Coinbase users. Crypto thieves are taking fingers now
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53:01On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: TeleMessage memory dumps show up on DDoSecrets Coinbase contractor bribed to hand over user data Telegram does seem to be actually cooperating with law enforcement Britain’s legal aid service gets 15 years worth of applicant data stolen Shocking no one, Ivanti …
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Risky Biz Soap Box: Push Security's browser-first twist on identity security
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34:24In this wholly sponsored Soap Box edition of the show, Patrick Gray chats with Adam Bateman and Luke Jennings from Push Security. Push has built an identity security platform that collects identity information and events from your users’ browsers. It can detect phish kits and shut down phishing attempts, protect SSO credentials, and find shadow/per…
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Risky Business #791 -- Woof! Copilot for Sharepoint coughs up creds and keys
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57:52On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Struggling to find that pesky passwords.xlsx in Sharepoint? Copilot has your back! The ransomware ecosystem is finding life a bit tough lately SAP Netweaver bug being used by Chinese APT crew Academics keep just keep finding CPU side-channel attacks And of cour…
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Wide World of Cyber: How state adversaries attack security vendors
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52:42In this edition of the Wide World of Cyber podcast Patrick Gray talks to SentinelOne’s Steve Stone and Alex Stamos about how foreign adversaries are targeting security vendors, including them. From North Korean IT workers to Chinese supply chain attacks, SentinelOne and its competitors are constantly fending off sophisticated hacking campaigns. Thi…
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Risky Business #790 -- Bye bye Signal-gate, hello TeleMessage-gate
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56:12On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: White House’s off-brand Israeli Signal fork logs cleartext messages with hard coded creds while getting hacked (twice). Just … Wow. Ransomware attacks on UK retailers are linked, and Marks & Spencer has it extra bad After six years dormant, a Magento eCommerce …
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BONUS INTERVIEW: Senator Mark Warner on Signalgate, Volt Typhoon and tariffs
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49:44In this extended interview the Vice Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Senator Mark Warner, joins Risky Business host Patrick Gray to talk about: The latest developments in the Signalgate scandal Why America needs to be more aggressive in responding to Volt Typhoon How tariffs are affecting American alliances Why the Five Eyes al…
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Risky Business #789 -- Apple's AirPlay vulns are surprisingly awful
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1:02:31On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: British retail stalwart Marks & Spencer gets cybered South Korean telco sets out to replace all its subscriber SIMs after (we assume) it lost the keymat It’s a good exploit week! Bugs in Apple Airplay, SAP webservers, Erlang SSH and CommVault backups Juice jack…
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Snake Oilers: LimaCharlie, Honeywell Cyber Insights, CobaltStrike and Outflank
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38:50In this edition of the Snake Oilers podcast, three sponsors come along to pitch their products: LimaCharlie: A public cloud for SecOps Honeywell Cyber Insights: An OT security/discovery solution Fortra’s CobaltStrike and Outflank: Security tooling for red teamers This episode is also available on Youtube. Show notes…
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In this edition of Snake Oilers three vendors pitch host Patrick Gray on their tech: Pangea: Guardrails and security for AI agents and applications (https://pangea.cloud) Worried about your AI apps going rogue, being mean to your customers or even disclosing sensitive information? Pangea exists to address these risks. Fascinating stuff. Cosive: A t…
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Risky Business #788 -- Trump targets Chris Krebs, SentinelOne
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53:35On this week’s show Patrick Gray talks to former NSA Cybersecurity Director Rob Joyce about Donald Trump’s unprecedented, unwarranted and completely bonkers political persecution of Chris Krebs and his employer SentinelOne. They also talk through the week’s cybersecurity news, covering: Mitre’s stewardship of the CVE database gets its funding DOGE’…
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Wide World of Cyber: How the Trump admin is changing the cybersecurity landscape
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43:29In this podcast, Patrick Gray chats with SentinelOne’s Chris Krebs and Alex Stamos about the huge changes afoot in the United States government and what they mean for the threat environment. From the director of NSA being fired to massive job cuts at CISA and huge foreign policy shifts, tomorrow’s threat environment is going to be very different to…
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