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The Overtones Podcast explores and celebrates lesser heard voices within Christianity, both in the past as well as today. It is hosted by LaRae Cherukara, Joe Rhee, and Christy Wang. We talk to Christian academics, professionals, missionaries, and church workers, and each of them has an extraordinary story to tell about themselves, about their work, and about God. Listen with us, and let us discover together the beauty and wonder of the lives of other Christians. For more information about t ...
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Painterly Life

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The Painterly Life Podcast: Where Everyday Creativity Inspires Extraordinary Journeys Feeling creatively stuck? You’re not alone—and you’ve just found your people. Hosted by artist, songwriter, and creative force Shannon Grissom, The Painterly Life Podcast is your weekly dose of inspiration, transformation, and creative connection. Each episode features honest, uplifting conversations with artists, photographers, writers, chefs, crafters, gardeners, and everyday makers who have turned passio ...
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Send us a text In this inspiring episode of The Painterly Life Podcast, host Shannon Grissom sits down with designer and creative visionary Paul Overton, founder of Object Lesson Interiors. From his art-filled childhood to his innovative approach to sustainable design, Paul shares how his TGIF method (Thrifted, Gifted, Invented, or Found) reshapes …
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Send us a text In this episode of The Painterly Life Podcast, host Shannon Grissom sits down with Sam Lesante Jr., seasoned television producer and president of SSPTV, to explore the world of local television and the creative journeys behind the screen. Sam shares his early experiences in TV production and reflects on how family support and collabo…
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Send us a text In this episode of The Painterly Life Podcast, host Shannon Grissom sits down with ceramic artist Hal Raines for an inspiring and deeply personal conversation. Hal opens up about his journey with clay—from childhood influences to the way Parkinson’s has reshaped his creative practice. Together, they explore the power of community, me…
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Send us a text In this episode of The Painterly Life podcast, host Shannon Grissom sits down with visual storyteller Ethan Crank to explore the rich narrative behind his art. Ethan shares the story of how he entered the world of painting, revealing the early influences that shaped his creative voice. From the haunting beauty of shipwrecks to the pl…
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Send us a text In this episode of the Painterly Life podcast, host Shannon Grissom speaks with Bill Cuebas, known as the Golf Father, about his journey from law enforcement to becoming a prominent figure in the golf community. Bill shares how golf transformed his life after retirement, providing him with purpose and a platform to connect with other…
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Send us a text In this inspiring episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom sits down with Lee Silber—surfer, entrepreneur, award-winning author, and speaker—who has built a life around creativity and authenticity. Lee shares how his eclectic journey, from selling surfwear to writing bestselling books, shaped his approach to living creatively.…
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Send us a text In this captivating episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom sits down with award-winning author Nanette Potter to explore the creative journey behind the Blade Broussard thriller series. Discover how a chance encounter with a circus poster and the desire to create a strong female protagonist led to the birth of Blade Broussar…
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Send us a text In this episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom speaks with Jennifer Moss, a multifaceted creative who shares her journey through grief, the healing power of art, and her passion for empowering female artists through the Metta Gallery. They discuss the therapeutic aspects of jewelry making, sound healing, and the importance o…
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Send us a text 🎨 In this inspiring episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom sits down with Jennifer Moss—author, photographer, web developer, and founder of BabyNames.com—to explore a colorful creative journey that spans tech, art, and storytelling. ✨ Jennifer opens up about growing from a quiet, observant child into a bold, expressive creat…
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Send us a text What happens when you blend business savvy, intuition, and a whole lot of heart? You get Ronnie Ryan — intuitive life coach, author, and love manifestor! In this inspiring episode of The Painterly Life, Ronnie shares her unexpected journey from a high-powered marketing career to becoming a dating coach who used her own methods to dat…
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Send us a text Welcome to Painterly Life, where each guest is a new muse! In this powerful episode, host Shannon Grissom sits down with celebrated artist and teacher Karen Lynn Ingalls—whose incredible journey through illness, inner criticism, and the devastating Tubbs Fire has shaped a life devoted to art, healing, and purpose. Karen shares how sh…
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Send us a text SUMMARY In this inspiring episode of The Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom sits down with acclaimed fine art and architectural photographer Marco Zecchin to explore the rich tapestry of his 45-year creative journey. From the early spark of passion ignited by a childhood moment to the profound influence of his Italian heritage and …
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Send us a text SUMMARY In this episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom interviews artist and author Vicki Thomas, who shares her journey from a career in fashion design to becoming a successful artist and writer. Vicki discusses her creative process, the challenges of staying inspired, and the importance of community support in the creative…
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Send us a text Note: Inquiring about Nedra's harmonica offer? Please click here to contact her directly. In this episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom interviews Nedra Russ, a multi-talented artist known as the "Harmonica Lady." They explore Nedra's creative journey from childhood, her experiences overcoming challenges after her Near Deat…
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Send us a text SUMMARY In this episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom speaks with award-winning painter Lisa Zylstra about her artistic journey, the importance of light in her work, and how nature influences her creativity. They discuss the role of community in art, the challenges of balancing creativity with the business side of being an …
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Send us a text In this episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom engages with D. Shoji Nakamoto, a multifaceted artist who shares his journey through music and creativity. They discuss the influence of family on Nakamoto's musical upbringing, his songwriting process, and the cultural identity that shapes his work. The conversation highlights …
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Send us a text In this episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom speaks with artist Teresa J. Sharp about her inspiring journey of creativity, shaped by her family's influence, hospitality experiences, and travels. They explore how sourdough baking fuels her artistic expression, the vital role of community, and strategies for overcoming creat…
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What do Christians mean by 'worship'? Is it more than mere singing? How can churches worship God corporately, when we all have such different experiences and preferences? How should we worship when suffering and struggles come? Benita Lim is a worship leader and PhD candidate at Fuller Theological Seminary. Having lived through the devastating Los …
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Send us a text In this episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom interviews artist Laura Schwartz-Smith, who shares her journey from a childhood influenced by loss to a successful career in textile art and painting. Laura discusses her artistic evolution, the importance of the creative process, and the influence of nature on her work. She off…
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Samuel Johnson was a critic, poet, and essayist, and the author of one of the most influential English dictionaries in history. As one of the finest minds eighteenth-century England, Johnson was in the centre of debates around the place of Christianity in the moral life of the nation, and the role of faith in a post-Enlightenment world. Dr Kirsten …
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Xie Dawei suffered from polio as an infant, and has been a wheelchair user ever since. In graduate school in the US, she encountered Jesus and experienced the transformation of her identity. In this episode, Dawei speaks to Christy about her struggles growing up with a disability, how she came to faith, and how she uses her experiences to reach out…
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Send us a text SUMMARY In this episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom interviews Gina Mims, an award-winning artist and owner of Inspiro Brands. They discuss Gina's journey from Orange County to the Sierra foothills, her experiences in building a gallery, and the intersection of her business and artistic endeavors. Gina shares her insights…
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It's a Valentine's Day special episode on the Overtones Podcast! Christy is joined by her regular co-hosts Joe and LaRae, and also by Joe's wife Deb and LaRae's husband Matt. The two couples share their experiences of marriage, travel, church, and family life, while coming from different ethnic and cultural backgrounds. How does marriage look diffe…
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Christy, Joe, and LaRae speak with Ida Hu, who was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2018. Having gone through months of treatment and dealing with depression and doubt, Ida now ministers to women suffering from cancer, offering Christian comfort, hope, and advice to patients, their families, and their churches. Listen, as she shares her story and he…
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Send us a text In this episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom welcomes the delightful and award-winning painter Mary Beth Harrison. Her vibrant creations not only beautify spaces but also uplift her community. The podcast dives into Mary Beth’s journey from a passionate young artist who dreamed of exploring her creativity to a celebrated p…
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Over a billion people in the world have a significant disability, yet 90% of them will go through life never hearing the Good News. How can Christians reach out to people with disabilities? What difficulties might disabled people face upon arriving at our churches? What does the Gospel have to say about the value of all people? Amberle Brown (co-fo…
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Christy, Joe, and LaRae are joined by Dougie Read and his mum Rhona. Dougie was diagnosed with autism as a young child: now, he serves his local church as verger, he performs in plays and musicals, and he manages a busy work schedule. Listen as Rhona shares her experience of coping with her son's diagnosis, and helping him through school, speech th…
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In the first installment of a mini-series on disability in the Church, the Overtones Podcast hosts discuss disability in the Bible and in Christian history. Why did so many Christians of the past have such a negative view of physical and mental infirmity? How does Jesus' example challenge those ideas? How can we welcome into the Church people who a…
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Christy, Joe, and LaRae are joined by the Reverend Damian Platt, Vicar of Christ Church Thornton, who shares stories of hospitality and spirituality from his church in North-West England. How does God's character as an abundant provider inform our hospitality? How can churches reach out to their communities through hospitality? And how did growing …
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What do Christmas movies tell us about our culture and its values? Is the "hallmark" happy ending something Christians should hope for? How can Christians celebrate the holidays in a way that honours Christ? Join Christy, Joe, and LaRae as they discuss all things cinematic and festive. Favourite Christmas movies; seasonal motifs in stories; the dif…
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How can a small-town coffee shop impact people for Jesus? Can Christians be called to be entrepreneurs and businesspeople? What are the most important principles for Christians in running a business? Christy and LaRae speak to Dan and Carma Miller, founders of the 6:10 Coffee Company in Salem, Illinois, about their experience of starting and runnin…
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Christy, Joe, and LaRae continue their discussion with last episode's special guest: Joseph, an academic and expert Christianity and Islam. In this episode, we discuss Christian views of modern Israel, the ongoing Israel-Hamas war from the perspective of just war theory, and some of the current issues surrounding Middle Eastern refugees and migrant…
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What is life like for Christians in the Middle East and North Africa today? What are some of the obstacles to Christians evangelising their Muslim neighbours? And have the historic divisions of the Church of Christ weakened her testimony to Muslims? Christy, Joe, and LaRae speak to Joseph, an academic and expert on Christian-Muslim relations, about…
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Solving problems, identifying patterns, creating beauty, inspiring awe. Mathematics is about all these things and more, as Dr Andi Wang explains to the Overtones Podcast hosts. Topics discussed: Why should Christians care about mathematics? What can we learn about God through maths? Was maths invented or discovered? Is it subjective or objective? P…
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The Overtones Podcast exists to investigate and celebrate the diverse unity of the Christian church around the world. But what do we mean by the word 'diverse'? How should Christians understand diversity? How might a biblical definition of diversity be different from what we hear from the world around us? In this episode, Christy, Joe, and LaRae di…
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It's the final episode of Season One of the Overtones Podcast. Christy, Joe, and LaRae are joined by Matt, the podcast's editor and producer, to reflect on our favourite moments of the season, the major themes that have come through, and the ways God has revealed truth through the conversations we've had. Stay tuned until the very end to hear some …
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(Bonus Episode - Mandarin) 人該如何面對失去?失去一段寶貴的友誼和愛情是痛苦的,但若失去兒女,更是難以想像的傷痛。而神若是愛、是良善的,為什麼還要讓人經歷生離死別? 寫過無數膾炙人口福音詩歌的徐世賢老師及其夫人、聲樂家陳仰恩老師,與Overtones Podcast的主持人Christy分享了他們如何在一夜之間,無預警地失去了他們最親愛的兒子。 在這一集的訪問中,徐世賢夫婦將分享愛子樵樵過世後,他們如何直面內心深處的剝奪感和悲痛,並靠著神的恩典帶領,在黑暗的日子中創作充滿平安、安慰,希望、與榮耀的詩歌,並在哀悼中歌唱。 Music featured in this episode: Transformation and Only Jesus Can by Steve…
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Jasmine Lee of US Taiwan Watch joins Christy and LaRae to discuss the current tensions between Taiwan and China, and the nature of the US-Taiwan relationship, as well as current politics in Taiwan and how Taiwanese Christians engage with political issues. How are the strategic and geopolitical interests of the United States tied to Taiwan's freedom…
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Losing a family member can be difficult, but the unexpected death of a child is especially tragic. Steve Hsu and Chen Yang En join the Overtones Podcast and speak to Christy about the death of their son Qiao Qiao, their experience of mourning and grief, and the faithfulness of God through it all. How should we deal with the fear, sorrow, shame, and…
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Cynthia Samuel joins the Overtones Podcast team to share the story of her arranged marriage: how she spiritually prepared for marriage, how she and Moses chose each other, and how she has adapted to married life in the UK. What is it that distinguishes Christian marriage across a range of cultural expressions? How does our culture shape our expecta…
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"Of all the types of people God could have created you to be, He made you Chinese and Australian. He made a choice to make you who you are today. That's not by accident. It's a good thing." Joseph Chu joins the Overtones Podcast this week to share his experiences of navigating family, school, work, and church cultures. What is it like when two cult…
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Pupil barrister Allyna Ng joins Christy, Joe, and LaRae to share her experience practicing law in the UK and Malaysia. What are the differences in the justice systems of these two countries? What are the challenges of working as a Christian in the courtroom? And what hope is there for Christians fighting for justice in a unjust world? The views exp…
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How are prevailing attitudes in Japan different from those of the West, or other Asian countries? How do Japanese people think about religion in general and Christianity in particular? What are the major obstacles to reaching Japanese people with the good news of Jesus Christ? Richard Brash, of Christ Bible Seminary in Nagoya, joins the Overtones P…
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The Puritans are remembered for their robust defense of evangelical theology and for their commitment to holy living. Their diaries provide an amazing insight into their spiritual lives, including their battles with sin and temptation. Overtones Project founder and director Christy Wang shares insights from the life of Michael Wigglesworth, based o…
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Christy, Joe, and LaRae speak with Robin Langdon, a father of young children, about the challenges and joys of raising little ones in a Christian home. How are social expectations different for a stay-at-home dad? What are the key principles that Christian parents should be thinking about when raising Christian children? And what can we all do to b…
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What are the unique challenges for Christian families living in urban South Korea? How can Christian churches witness to the truth of the gospel without being mistaken for a cult? Why would someone choose to return to their home country after years of living abroad, in order to be a missionary there? In this episode, Christy, Joe, and LaRae intervi…
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What is grace? How did people in the classical world think about grace in their relationships with one another and with God? What is unique about the Apostle Paul's Christ-centred view of grace? Overtones Podcast host LaRae Cherukara talks with Christy and Joe about her doctoral research into grace in the ancient world and in Paul's letters. Produc…
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What is nuclear fusion, and why should Christians care about it? What is it like being an Asian female scientist working in the UK? And how does Christianity shape our identity, and the way we think about work? Christy, Joe, and LaRae are joined by Kay Song, a materials scientist at the University of Oxford, to discuss her research and experience a…
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It's an Easter special episode of the Overtones Podcast! Christy, Joe, and LaRae discuss Easter traditions in Taiwan, the UK, and the USA, why the Puritans tried to cancel Easter, how Christians celebrate Jesus' death and resurrection every time we share the Lord's Supper, and more. Producers: Matthew Cherukara, Christy Wang Music by Leon Riskin Vi…
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Nancy-Page Lowenfield speaks to Christy and LaRae about her experience as a single woman serving the church. What challenges do single women face working in full-time ministry? What can the church do to serve single people better? And how can we all minister to our ministers? Producers: Matthew Cherukara, Christy Wang Music by Leon Riskin Visit ove…
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